[Millemis]

Standard Bluetooth does not have the bandwidth to support the amount of data that’s needed to transmit lossless music.
Instead, it will downsample the signal into a lossy one en route to your speakers or headphones—which is annoying if you’re paying a streaming service extra for the privilege of better quality music.
The APT-X codecs does support higher bandwith.
However, the BCC does not support APT-X.

Spotify Connect works differently than transmitting sound via Bluetooth.

The ‘source device’  (typically an iPhone/iPad with the Spotify app installed) is just a controller – the stream is fetched directly from the playing device via the network.
Spotify Connect makes lossless streaming (in ‘CD-quality’) possible – however, only with devices, that have support for it (the BCC does!)

The support for lossless quality streaming must be configured in the Spotify app – and you need a paid version of Spotify for this.

Very few people – that I have come across – would rate the quality of a music stream submitted via BT higher than the lossless variant of Spotify.

Apple Music Behavior: When casting Apple Music via AirPlay 2, the stream is typically re-encoded to 256 kbps AAC (lossy), even if lossless settings are turned on in your app.
You can stream higher quality via AirPlay, but only if your sending device and the receiving device are regular AirPlay/AirPlay 1 devices.
The BCC is an AirPlay 2 device – which limits the quality of a stream that might be available in the Music app in a higher quality.

MM

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[Millemis]

@CharlieWednesday

It is always nice to know as lot as possible about a setup, when trying to advice….otherweise you can easily go blind.

As Carolpa I am looking forward to hear about the ‘new’ setup.

MM

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[Millemis]

I agree completely with carolpa.

Using the power of the audioengine in the BV11 for creating different Speaker Groups is the best way to go.
And please configure the sub as a sub in the Sound Settings on a separate PL connection – this will give you the best results watching content with multichannel sound.

The bigger question here is….how to get the sound from the BS9000 into the tv?
The far best way to do it, is to use a NL/ML Converter – here you also in addition get full control of the BS9000.

Another solution however, might be what Steve describes here: https://soundsheavenly.com/products/9-pin-av-cable-for-beovision-11-12-new-generation-avant-v1-and-beosystem-4-powerlink-input#/5-length-5m

You can get the cables from him.

By the way….if you configure some QuickStart timers, your tv will start much quicker.
For how to – and much more – please read the manuals here:

https://support.bang-olufsen.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041518852-Beovision-11-Beo4

 

MM

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[Millemis]

Thanks for the update – indeed it could be helpfull for other users in the same situation.

👍

MM

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[Millemis]

@Beofile 7

You may have done it in other threads – but could you describe your current setup….including the network in your home.
And what you expect from it?
Which router are you using, wired and/or wired connections?

Maybe also where you are located – there might be someone nearby, who could help you onsite.

How about your relationship with a/your dealer….if that is an option?

MM

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[Millemis]

Great – can you join in from/expand to ASE products, if you have only one Mozart product in the mix and start from there?

By the way – the regular Bang & Olufsen app works fine on any modern Mac computer.

 

MM

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[Millemis]

I use my old Beoplay A8 for different test setup’s from time to time.

Once I had an Essence MK2 connected – a nice little setup!

The line-in there has autosense….it turns the A8 on, when there is sound coming.

It works well – some times it is a bit tricky, though.

.Basically you have two volume controls (maybe even 3, if you also have a source connected to the projector).

Best thing to do is to set the volume of the projector to fixed output or to a high start up volume…if possible.
And then control the volume of the A8.
Maybe you are lucky to get the small remote for it as well – or you can use a Beo4.

The A8 is a good sounding ‘speaker’.

P.S.  The original Beosound 8 does the job as well.

MM

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[Millemis]

The question is:

How much difference does it do?

MM

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[Millemis]

I used a ‘HDMI to Scart Converter’ back in the days, when I had that tv.

MM

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[Millemis]

@beotex

A very nice – still going strong – setup, indeed!

MM

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[Millemis]

Indeed it would be very nice if the 3D files (for fitting an iPad Mini) could be provided for other people to print them.

Not everyone has the skills to make a scan etc.

But I surely could find someone to print the object for me….if I had the file.

MM

 

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[Millemis]

Sorry to say it,

but the ‘normal’ procedure with what you are aiming at, is to connect the ATV via one of the HDMI ports to the tv and connect the soundbar/the theatre via the HDMI/e-ARC port to the tv.
With CEC enabled everywhere!

You do not need the LAN connection from the Theatre to the LG TV….since you are not controlling the tv with the B&O remote.
You do not need the B&O app on the tv either!

As I understand it, you want to control the ATV, let that turn on the LG TV to a specific HDMI port (with the ATV connected there) and also the Theatre.
As I understood your post you are not interested in controlling the tv, the built in sources there etc etc, nor do you want to choose/control any of the built-in sources of the Theatre.
(Should you want to do that, you can use the Bang & Olufsen app e.g. to choose a netradio station).

This is a straight forward procedure for any combination of modern tv’s, soundbars and an AppleTV controlled with the SIRI Remote.

If you want the full B&O experience, you should connect the ATV to the Theatre, connect a PUC cable also, connect the Theatre via HDMI/(e-ARC), install the B&O app on the LG TV and also the LAN cable and turn off any CEC….
…..and then control everything with a BeoRemote One.

 

MM

• This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by Millemis.

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[Millemis]

Do you have the ATV connected to the LG tv directly?

Do you (still) have a lan cable between the Theatre and the tv?

Have you have enabled CEC in all devices?

MM

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[Millemis]

@carolpa

You are right – I forgot about that.

But that means, that you can not have the BS1 in option 0, like Guy wanted.
He wants to control the Essence through the connected ir-eye with the Beo4.

MM

 

 

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[Millemis]

How did that end?

MM

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[Millemis]

The BS1 in Option 0 – that explains it!

I have always felt it a pity, that there is no ‘autosense’ on the A.Aux (of the BS1).
That is a feature that came with later products.

Would have been really nice, since the BS1 is very good sounding.
(That always kept me from buying one)

You can use ir with the BROne, but you have to change from one setting to another….which in the long run is too awkward.

I guess the only way to make that work, is some kind of automation….which I do not really understand.

The Essence MK2 just recently got an update – fantastic that B&O has not forgotten this long eol’ed product.
I have 3 of them 😀😀😀

Happy further experimenting.

MM

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[Millemis]

Hi Guy

That sounds amazing.

However allow me a couple of questions…

1. Normally you have to activate the Aux on the BS1 manually:
‘The AUX socket is activated by pressing both arrows and CD simultaneously’.

The way you describe it, the BS1 autosenses a signal coming from the Essence MK2/PL (and starts in Aux-mode).
Have I understood that correctly?

2. You write that the Netradio (from the Essence) starts and can be controlled, when you push Radio on the Beo4.
How come the BS1 does not react to the Radio command and activates the built-in tuner there???

I would assume, that this will only be possible, if you use a BROne/bt (connected to the Essence), since there is no ir command going on.

3. Is your goal to use the BS1 as an only-speaker device with the Essence Mk2 as the source device (including whatever is beo-linked to it)?
That would imo be a great little setup!

P.S.

I guess, in that case the ir-eye would not be needed at all.

MM

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[Millemis]

Glynn Everdepoel wrote:

Hi B&O enthousiast!

This is my first post here so I hope it’s in the right category. I have beovox 5000 flat speakers for some time but I find that they lack bass. Do you think it’s a good idea to pair them with a beolab 19 subwoofer? I know I could use any other sub as well but I must admit that the beolab 19 would fit beautifully with my interior. Also I don’t think I can hook the beolab 19 up to my amplifier so I will need to new one. Any advice for this? It must have bluetooth or spotify connect and also an optical out/in. Thanks in advance!

Maybe the

WiiM Amp

could do the job!

They also make a sub, that is nicely manageable through the app).

MM

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[Millemis]

Interesting, that with the headphone socket and AUX mode.

Will that then have ‘line-in sense’?

That is very important for those who wants to have an external (airplay or bluetooth) source connected.
Otherwise one will have yo activate that on the BS3, when you use it (how?).

MM

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[Millemis]

Hi and congrats on your ‘new’ speakers.

There are lots of questions (and answers) on the Beoworld Forum (and elsewhere) to this subject.

Have a look here

or here

Isopropyl alcohol is the short answer…..to clean this (and a lot of other products from the same period).

Best thing to do is to disassemble the units…..and get on with the job.
It is hard work!

 

MM

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