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Madskp
GOLD MemberI have now tested with my Beocenter 9300 and a Beolab 3500.
With the Beolink Converter 1611 everything works as it should.
With the Beolink Converter 1614 nothing works. The 1614 converter does not supply power to the Masterlink network.
Therefore a 1611 converter is needed if it is the Masterlink Route you take.
If you choose to go the MCL way a cable pinout is available here (These pages has not been reestablished at Beoworld, so linking to the internet Archive) https://web.archive.org/web/20220624064632/https://www.beoworld.org/beotech/wiring1.htm
Not that the whirring is shown for a wall plate so you have to be sure to use the right PIN numbers on the Din plug.
The pink wire is power, and is not used in the Beolab 3500, so you do not have to solder it to the plug, but keep it isolated so it does not short circuit.
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Madskp
GOLD MemberHi again
The NL/ML converter is for converting between Masterlink and the newer netlink products, so won’t work in your case.
A Beolink converter type 1614 might work, I can test that tomorrow and report back
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Madskp
GOLD MemberFirst of there is both a MKI and an MKII version of the Beolab 3500
Both versions have Masterlink.
Beolab MKI (serial numbers are lower than 19343452) has an 8 pin connector on the back marked MCL and can be used with the Master Control Link system
Beolab MKII (serial number 19343452 and up) has an 8 pin connector often refered to as powerlink on the back, but according to the servicemanaul for BL3500 MKII only intended for use with Beolink Wireless 1 (W1). I have done several tests in another thread that also suggest that this connction can only be used for this purpose, and not function as a normal powerlink speaker.
With your Beocenter 8500 I see two options:
- Get a Beolink converter type 1611 which connects to the AUX port on the Beocenter 8500 and converts it to masterlink. This way you can connect both MKI and MKII Beolab 3500, and you have also the option to add other zones with Beolink Active, Passive or the Beolab 2000.
- Use the Speaker 2 connection on the Beocenter 8500 to make a MCL network to a Beolab 3500 MKI, it will not work for a MKII. To do this you have to use the thick 7 wire MCL cable, speaker connectors with 3 legs, and have an 8 PIN DIN connector mounted in the BL3500 end. You might be able to get some MCL cable with connectors mounted secondhand, but else it will be a DIY job. Since the MCL connection is from a speaker output it is depending on the volume from the Beocenter 8500. The BL3500 has some compensation for this, but it is not optimal.
I would suggest you go with option 1 as this is the more modern way of doing things, and you have more options to add more zones in the future.
As for the ML/MCL converters. Those will not work for this setup. They are for connecting a Beomaster/Beocenter/Beosound with Masterlink to a MCL installation, so a way to add a more moderne main room system without replacing existing link rooms.
Hope this helps, and fell free to ask more if in doubt
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Madskp
GOLD MemberA little of topic. For B&O datalink compatible Bluetooth receivers I can highly recommend Pilatomics project Beotooth 5500 https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beotooth-5500-a-datalink-bluetooth-receiver/#post-50219 if you haven’t stubled upon that yet. I have bought one myself and is very satisfied with it.
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Madskp
GOLD MemberI do not have experience with Bosscom, but do know that some Danish shops do have some of their products, although mostly cables and cable covers like this https://www.av-connection.com/?Brand=3
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Madskp
GOLD MemberI am experiencing some thread which I can find I my topics, or search and find (the search functionality works again 🙂 ) but when I go to the thread I only get the headline like this:
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Madskp
GOLD MemberNever had the opportunity to open a BS9000, so can’t comment on which type of capacitors is used.
But even though it might be SMD caps you should be able to replace these with “regular” caps (maybe lying down instead of standing) if space allows it on the PCB, and there is enough height available.
Guy had succes replacing SMD caps with regular caps on his BC2300 CD laser PCB. It was in my BS Ouverture repair thread, but for some reason that thread is not available right now .
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Madskp
GOLD MemberOk that explains some of the strange behaviour.
Actually if the error could be replaced with a text saying that the post is awaiting moderation that vould be usefull compared to before the changes where you would not know why your post did not show up.
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Madskp
GOLD MemberOn Multicare saidOn Madskp saidJust noticed that subscriptions that was made to topics on the forum before the changes are no longer in my subscriptions.
@Multicare do you think that it is possible to transfer these subscriptions, or should we go through topics we have made and/or replied to to reenable it?Thanks in advance
I will see what I can do, there are still some issue with topics and the reply not showing, I can see the data but struggling to see how I can merge them back together without messing it all up or deleting something . ?
I have added to the issue tracker.
Yeah I was kinda thinking that would not be an easy one. For now I might just check the subscribe button when I am in a topic I still want to follow
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Madskp
GOLD MemberThanks for clarifying. I was suspecting that the subscription thing was not that easy to fix. For now I will just check the subscription status whenever I am in a post.
Thanks for showing where to find the links for the forum views. I guees I am not used to find features like that in the bottom of a page.
The reason for not quoting in this post is that when I tried before I got a WordPress critical error.
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Madskp
GOLD MemberJust noticed that subscriptions that was made to topics on the forum before the changes are no longer in my subscriptions.
@Multicare do you think that it is possible to transfer these subscriptions, or should we go through topics we have made and/or replied to to reenable it?Thanks in advance
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Madskp
GOLD MemberOn Madskp saidOn kirin saidHi,
I found a good feature of the previous forum implementation was to have a link to most recent topics. Vould this be provided again?
Navigating through the various (many!) sub-topics is a little bit cumbersome, in my opinion.+1
Just found out that the wiew ofvthe forum can be changed with the BB button on the top bar to get this feature. Guess we just have to learn a few new things ?
For dome reason I could not attach a picture to the post
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Madskp
GOLD MemberPressing BB on the top bar will give acces to different viewsvincluding newest topics. Gues we just have to get used to new ways of doing things 🙂
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Madskp
GOLD MemberOn kirin saidHi,
I found a good feature of the previous forum implementation was to have a link to most recent topics. Vould this be provided again?
Navigating through the various (many!) sub-topics is a little bit cumbersome, in my opinion.+1
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Madskp
GOLD MemberThe search function might have issues.
When I do a search on the forum I just get a list of newest posts on the forum ( That list is also usefull, but should probably be accesed otherwise).
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Madskp
GOLD MemberYou are right. I remember you allready had a post about the 7-4’s. But great plan to keep it simple and now you have the ML powerbox for other stuff.
And if nothing else we learned a little about the “magic” going on in the ML powerbox
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Madskp
GOLD MemberVery nice guide. Hope the effort was not wasted.
I guess this will keep Guy from starting to collect dead Beoremote One’s ?
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Madskp
GOLD MemberHmm new issue. I tried to quote Guys post in my latest answer, bu the Quote function did not seem to work
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Madskp
GOLD MemberOk so that went into moderation. When I posted it I got kind of an error. Did not notice what the error Said though. Will ovserve if it happens again
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Madskp
GOLD MemberMore ovservations
– posting with links result in errors
– posting with attachments results in errors
– Inserting pictures has a limitation on 1mb which is very low for pictures from a phone camera
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