[Madskp]

deaddruid wrote:

Just thinking about the diagram that you referenced…

The two ML networks are connected through back-to-back BLCs. How does one access the other? Is it (for example, from Core) N.RADIO gets network radio, whilst LINK, N.RADIO gets the phono from the second ML network?

Mark

No. in the NL/ML converter you can instead translate to an available source name, so if no video master is in that part of the ML network all commands like TV, DVD, V.MEM and DTV can be used to tranlate into the audio sources on the other ML network.

Hope this makes sense

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[Madskp]

First of all sorry for taking some time to come back to you

deaddruid wrote:

I’m not sure whether I understand you correctly here. I’m familiar with the idea that a link room TV can access the sources attached to the video master. With later link room TVs, it was unnecessary to press LINK before the required source, as long as the link room TV didn’t have that source itself. However the LINK prefix command simply meant “get this next thing from the video master, not a local device”.

In case of an music system like the BC2 being used as a link room product it allready have the audio sources RADIO, CD and A.AUX, so to get these from the music system being the Audio master you will need to use the Link + Source commands.

deaddruid wrote:

Are you suggesting that if (say) the BC2 is the audio master, there may be a way to access the BS3200 via the BC2 over MasterLink, by using the LINK command?

No the audio master can not get sources from another music system with the same source names in the same Masterlink Network.

deaddruid wrote:

Or did you simply mean that commands can be routed to the audio master by using the LINK prefix (which is what I’m used to)?

Again unfortnuatly no unless you take the earlier mentioned approach of dividing the Masterlink network into sections with a number of NL/ML converters.

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[Madskp]

pilatomic wrote:

Hello !

Time went by quite fast, but I have recently spent some more time improving the Beotooth firmware.

Besides a few minor bugfixes (the most visible being the MCP counter not being reset when disconnecting a Bluetooth device), the latest firmware features 2 new additions :

The Beotooth will now reconnect to the last Bluetooth device when receiving a play command from the Beosystem. Manually reconnecting is not required anymore, making starting playback a true one key operation, like an original B&O source.
Pairing mode can now be entered with the GOTO 0 PLAY key sequence on the Beolink / MCP. This is especially handy when wanting to pair a new device to a Beotooth that is tucked out of sight, and not easily reachable.

As with the previous version, just send me a PM / email to get the new firmware file.

Very nice that you keep updating this fantastic device 🙂

I will send you a PM to get the update.

Thanks in advance

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[Madskp]

deaddruid wrote:

Obviously, there can be only one Audio Master!

Have I understood the limitations correctly?

That is correct. as a general rule only one of the listed devices can be an audiomaster in a masterlink network and serve it’s sources to the others.

However Depending on software versions in the BC2 and the BS3200 one of them might be able to work togheter with either the Beoport or the Beomedia 1 to serve sources, so you might be able to utilise two devices.

Also depending on software versions most of the products should be able to work as link room products (option 5 or 6) and be able to get the source from the Audiomaster with a Link + Source command.

Another possibility is to make more than one Masterlink network and connect them via NL/ML converters where you can choose wich sources should be available to which Masterlink network. An example of this is in the sketch in the first post of this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/flash-your-bo-newer-thread/page/3/

More than one Forum member has made something similar to keep several masterlink devices in the system, so there should be plentyfull of advice if you choose to go down that route.

Btw the Beoport and the Beomedia 1 is essential the same device where the Beomedia 1 has a Built in computer, so you might not benefit from having both in your system

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[Madskp]

There is one for sale at the moment on the danish second had marketplace DBA.dk for 100€ + shipment

But just to clarify, the tester is only for the ML cables not the circitry in the BS9000

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[Madskp]

Just a  few thought about this topic.

The Beomaster 5 is just a normal PC from that era with the addition of a breakout board to supply some connections to the screen and make  masterlink and powerlink available.

It has WIndows XP embedded installed, and my best guess why the Behringer UCA222 is probably the only one that works is that windows XP needs a driver for it to function, and the Beosound 5 software needs to communicate with that driver in order to be able to select that as an input instead of the “integrated” digital sources.

My best guess would therefor be that in order for the Wiim Ultra to be able to work via USB you would need a Windows XP driver, and reconfigure the BS5 software to choose that soundcard driver instead of the Behringer.

But since I can not confirm that, the best thing would be to try it out.

Regarding the 1611 converter, that is also possible, and can works a VIDEO source input, but then you will just have the converter instead of the Behringer

 

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[Madskp]

benjarys wrote:

Hi everyone,

I know this is an old thread but I have a similar problem. Based on this post above, what are your suggestions?

Is cleaning some critical spots enough to revive this TV? I certainly hope so 🙂

My Beoplay V1 (40) turns on with the app over ethernet, but no image (I see a backlighted black screen)

Remote doesn’t work.

Please, I’d love to fix it 🙂

Hello. Having only fixed one of these I can not for sure say if cleaning is enough.

ButI believe that it is an essential part of the fix. Be aware that the leakage is from the supercapacitor, and as such it’s functionality might be limitied, and therefor a replacement of it might be needed at some point.

But I would suggest starting with the cleaning and see if it makes a difference. The spot that needs cleaning may vary depending on how the TV has been placed.

let us know how you proceed

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[Madskp]

pl212 wrote:

I’ve scanned and uploaded this document, which is contemporaneous with the Beocenter 7700:

https://archive.org/details/1983-bang-olufsen-master-control-link-system/

I find these early MCL systems fascinating, not because they were perfect (lots of issues about incomplete remote control) but because they were a fledgling attempt to get whole-house automation working over just a few extra pins in a speaker cable!

Very interesting to see that this document also existed, and seems to be before it was rebranded to MCL82, but also only Beocenter  7700 is mentioned in the manual where later a fwew more systems were supported.

I have scanned the installation and user manual that came in the MCL82 packages, and there are available here at Beoworld in the products section under Beolink, but this manual seems to be more  thorough  about hidden installation types.

 

TK wrote:

Just based on the jumpers I see in the 2041 relay boxes, I’m thinking the MCP instruction set is unique to the 7700 –

Based on the boxes I have ( https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/pile-of-mcl-equipment/  ) the jumper positions can be:

• Beocenter 7000/7002
• Beoceter 7007/7700 Link room
• Beocenter 7007/7700 Center room
• Beomaster 5000 / Other

So yes there seem to be some differences between systems, probably due to different remotes for the products

 

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[Madskp]

TK wrote:

Received a complimentary Form1 with another purchase, it the usual condition – without foam.  After reading the archives on the issues everyone was having with the original foam, I bought a cheap set of Logitech 150 foam replacements for $10-for-2-sets, and affixed them with trim adhesive.  Not ideal nor exact replacements, but serviceable given the time and effort I was willing to put into it.  If someone ever has a better solution, I can always shave them off. Unit seems to work fine without the upper cushions, but then, I’m not overly concerned with comfort, fit and finish of this particular headset.  Hopefully someone else can find this information useful to repair their sets without foam.

Nice quickfix to get the useable again.

I was recently looking into a LOT that among other things also contained a set of Form 1, so did some research and found this old thread where different solutions where tried https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/2514.aspx?PageIndex=2

In some of the latest post’s in the thread Matador has posted several pictures of his solution, and in a later post also attached instructions for how to make them

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[Madskp]

Based on the attached pictures i looks like there are som of the wires from the ML cable that is not connected on the network cable side in the junction boxes.

I am especially worried about the missing ground connections (the bare wires), but also the missing connection of the pink and Blue/white wire in one of the cases.

If these wires are not connected this could be one of the reasons for it not working.

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[Madskp]

Based on the three Ouvertures and one Beocenter 2500 I have I would say that it was strongly needed in all of them.

This thread was about the first one I fixed https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-ouverture-cd-and-tape-faulty/#post-22329

Note that the posts in the thread does not  come in the right order

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[Madskp]

Has the drive belt in the tape deck been replaced?

Not sure if it can cause the symptoms you describe, but with the age of the system it might be pretty loose by now. Also it is a good idea to replace it before it turn into a sticky black mess inside the tape deck.

If you choose to do this also consider replacing the belt for the clamper

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[Madskp]

Hello Matador and congrats on your newest Beosound

Searching on threads about Beosound 8 dock reveals that other members have succesfully disconnected the dock and have the other functions working. Since you say it has been brutally ripped of on your unit I would suggest you try to open it up and see if there are any remains of the dock PCB on the inside to avoid any mishaps in operation because of that.

Is look like a servicemanual should be available here on Beoworld, but I just get a 404 when I try to open it, so you might have to get Multicare to look at that

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[Madskp]

speedsixdave wrote:

After a lot of messing about with routers and IP addresses etc, I eventually got the thing connected to a web browser and was able to check it was set as V. Master. Then connected it to my Masterlink setup, turned everything on in hopefully the right order and… no change. Play button on a ML-connected link device still turns everything off. I have not done extensive testing with lots of different IR eyes and devices but have tried various sorts of turning things on and off again.

Not sure if it has an effecgt, but have you tried to power up the NL/ML Converter before the other parts in the system?

I do not have acces to my NL/ML converter at the moment, so it will be some time before I can share how my settings for it are

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[Madskp]

Great to hear that you did not just give up on it, and great that you are sharing the fix so others can benefit from it.

Even though B&O at one point did change the repair strategy to swapping parts I belive much of it is still repairable. I think the biggest issue is the lack of schematics in the servicemanuals to give an understanding of how the parts are connected on a crowded circuit board.

Fortnuatly sometimes the faults are visible, and on known to fail components like in your case.

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[Madskp]

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Take a look at this thread where the Rifa capacitors was blown in a Beoplay V1.

https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beoplay-v1-40-smoked-power-supply/

The bBV11 and the V1 is built on the same platform, so there is a good chance the capacitors are the same.

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[Madskp]

speedsixdave wrote:

By chance I have an IR eye for a Beosystem 3 which has more connections inside than the standard round eye. Do you know if that would work with the NL/ML Converter?

That should work to my. knowledge as long as you just wire up the ground, +5V and IR data connections. You can find the connections diagram for all the round IR eye’s in the Beolink Handbook (available in the Beotech section on Beoworld). there is a diagram for Beosystem4 where it is wired up with RJ45 connection. This should be the one to look at, but only connect the 3 signals mentioned above.

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[Madskp]

speedsixdave wrote:

Well I missed out on the Beosystem 3 but have successfully outbid everyone else in the entire world on a NL/ML Converter which will hopefully arrive for the weekend. The madness continues!

Hope this will suite you well. The NL/ML converter is a very versatile device and usefull for many type of setups.

If you are going to use an IR eye for it be aware that you will need the newer type with a join button to be able to use the buttons on the IR eye. If you however only need the IR functionality you can wire up the one of the older ML or MCL IR eyes but only connection to ground, +5V and data.

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[Madskp]

speedsixdave wrote:

That’s interesting @Madskp. With the NL/ML converter configured as videomaster?

Yes. And I did just test it again with a IR eye and sepakers connected to the NL/ML converter, and it seems to work as a link rom and can join or unjoin while the music from the main system keeps playing (if started from the main system), and that did also work with the BL3500.

So this could be a solution with the added benefit that it can also work as a link room.

speedsixdave wrote:

I was bidding on ebay for a cheap Beosystem 3 to try that too, but outbid. Hey ho. Not sure what I can try next.

That could also be a possible solution, and would probably also work as a link room with speakers and IR eye connected. Probably the Beossytem 2 could also do this.

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[Madskp]

A little more testing today. Tried again with the NL/ML converter and some other cables, and this time it worked as expected so that is a possible solution for this issue.

 

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