[Madskp]

Also available here RIAA amplifier – OneRemote

There was also an older version in a cylindric form, that might be possible to find second hand

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lenhi wrote:

I have acquired a teleplug to DIN from Steve, and have tried this with my phone and with my ipad. The phone plays on its own speaker, while the Ipad goes silent. Nothin comes out of the 3500.

Is this cable specific made to the Beolab 3500? If it is s Beolab 3500 MK1 the pinout in the DIN connection is different. Also to activate this input on the Beolab 3500 you will need to press Menu + 0 + 4 + GO

lenhi wrote:

2 and 3 do not beep against anything at the other end of the cable. 1 beeps against green and green-white

Pin 1 should only be connected to the White/green wire

Pin 2 Should be connected to the green wire

Pin 3 should be connected to White/blue

lenhi wrote:

12 does not beep against any of the leads in the other end of the cable

Pin 12 should bed connected to pink

The other Pins and colors seems t be correct.

But I will suggest you get another cable since there are  clearly issues with this one.

Also since this is not the first post where you seems to have issues with your system I will suggest you try to simplify things by testing the BL3500 the Beovision and the Beomaster and 1614 in the same room with new Masterlink cables without splicing to rule out if your equipment have issues.

 

 

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multicare wrote:

Issue should be sorted.

Thanks a lot 🙂

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Madskp wrote:

There might be an issue with the private message function.

When I type in a username it just keeps saying searching without anything happening.

have tried different browsers on both my computer and my phone without any difference

I still can send a private message. When I type in the user name I dog not get the searching anymore, but no confirmation that the user name is correct either. When I try to send it I get an error that the user does not exist.

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There might be an issue with the private message function.

When I type in a username it just keeps saying searching without anything happening.

have tried different browsers on both my computer and my phone without any difference

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[Madskp]

Do you have any Beocom telephones with volume control buttons? I once had a similar issue where that was having an issue an kept sending volume up signals

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Kristian Buckhøj wrote:

Also when searching using Gemini, I found out that the trigger volts with MCL should be 7v and not 5v. Don’t know if others have tried that.

I do not belive there is a trigger voltage on MCL. The 7V is for powering the MCL2A boxes since they do not have a separate power supply. On the Beolab 3500 however the 7V is not connected to anything. The Triggering TK is talking about is in form of data commands on the DATA wire which is in 5V pulses.

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B3OHACK3R wrote:

There is now an optional software image that just needs to be flashed on a SD card. Strictly speaking its still DIY but the software part can be plug-play with that one.

Oh very interesting 🙂 I have not read the full description yet, but will defenetly look into that.

B3OHACK3R wrote:

On ML side there are two different ways of remote waking the BL3500. Either via the timer function (BL3500 needs to have TIMER ON) or just by sending a virtual Beo4 command for switching on a source. In a traditional ML system without MLGW the only option for a video or audio master to activate link nodes is broadcasting the timer activation command. All devices with TIMER ON will then switch on. With the virtual Beo4 keys you have much better control and it works on all devices I have tested.

Great info to understand it. The Almando Masterplay use the TIMER function for it to work btw.

 

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Kristian Buckhøj wrote:

Also Someone has made a hat for a raspberry pi for controlling ML/MCL device. They also have some documentation for how the data signals look like. Check this link.

Ah interesting that project seems to be alive again 🙂 nice work @B3OHACK3R although it still seems to require some DIY work to get it running?

B3OHACK3R wrote:

The ML Gateway alone won’t help you much as it requires a master system (video or audio) to provide power to the ML bus.

Just to clarify this, a Beolink Converter type 1611 or a ML powerbox can be used to provide the power, so no music system and TV is needed.

TK wrote:

and I think I recall an On/Off trigger.

Could this be what is used for timer start which I think might have been the only scenario where starting the BL3500 via the MCL/ML bus would be needed in an original  intended B&O setup.

TK wrote:

The 3500 I have at the shop is on FW 1.0, so it may fall into the “not yet implemented” category and not indicative of the later variants.

I tried to assemble a SW update list at one point https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/bl3500-and-the-mcl-pl-connector/page/3/#post-44591

From what it says the SW 1.x versions does not fully inplement Masterlink, and there was an issue with the clock on MCL at one point. But it probably was implemented. I also have a SW 1.0 in my collection

 

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Kristian Buckhøj wrote:

Do you by any chance have the pin out documentation for the ports on the BeoLab 3500? Might try with an esp32 dev board.

You should be able to find the pinout at the diagram for the MCL to 8 Pin DIN connector in this page in the Beotech section https://beoworld.org/wiring-diagrams/ Also if you have the Servicemanual for the LCS9000 (Beolab3500 MK1) it will have a pinout in it.

Kristian Buckhøj wrote:

I now wonder if my beocenter 9000 can talk to it, but it doesn’t have ML or MCL. It does have link capability via the Beolink (type 2046) box and datalink, which I have. Also the beolink does say MCL 2A on it. Since both devices was able around the same time period, one would think.

The Beocenter 9000 does have MCL2 via the speaker 2 connections which is what you use with the MCL2A box. The Beolab 3500 MK1 also have MCL pinout via the 8 Pin DIN connector, but will not work if the SW version is upgraded to 3.x.

Kristian Buckhøj wrote:

Otherwise I might need a new front panel on my BeoLab 3500. Or maybe the IR eye can be connected?

Other front panel or repair would be the best option. I have quite a few BL3500’s in different condition, but the IR is working on all of them. Your name indicate that you live in Denmark. If interested post me a PM and I am sure we can find out something about a replacement for you.

 

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Hello

First of. the MCL/ML converter will not work for this scenario. The powerlink plug is an input as it can also be used as an amplifier for passive speakers.

 

This thread has a description of different solutions https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/bl3500-and-the-mcl-pl-connector/

Since the IR is not working there are not many solutions available. Several attempts has been made by me and other members to trigger the Beolab 3500 with 5V signals without luck.

The only working solution I know of for a MK1 is the Almando Masterplay (my experience described here https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/bl3500-and-the-mcl-pl-connector/#post-44537 ) but it is not being produced anymore, so you should be lucky to find one

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Have you changed the settings on the Beolab 3500 to ML ON?

If not press Menu+0+9+GO The display should now show ML ON or ML OFF. If it is off use up or down commands to change to ML ON

Afterwards you can check the connection by pressing Menu+0+2+GO The display should now show ML OK if it is working or else NO ML or an error code.

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bab wrote:

I guess the PL socket on Beolink 1611 is an output only?

Actually it is for enabling the use of buttons on the front panel of an audio master that is linked to a TV with the speakers connected, so no use in your case.

bab wrote:

Also, is there a particular variant of the 1611 that is required? One challenge might be to find a 110V version for the US. The ones I have seen for sale on European sites are all 220V only.

The US version is called 1612, so you might wan’t to look after that.

bab wrote:

t would be really nice if I could activate the speaker section of the BV10 via ML. As you may have guessed, originally the BV10 was the audio master, distributing music to the Beolab 3500 and the Beolink Passive. In the new setup, it would be quite the opposite! Would this be possible? I assume the BV10 would need to be configured differently?

You should stille be able to use the BV10 for distributing sound from the video sources like, TV, DVD, V.MEM, DTV etc. while also being able to get sources via the 1611 /1612 by using audio commands like, RADIO, CD, A.MEM etc. Only the audio source commands will all just activate the AAL port on the 1611/1612, so no difference in which commands you use.

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Hello

The Beogram CD 4500 does not have a built in IR e´receiver, and is therefore dependent on a datalink device to control it.

Instead of a Beomaster you can use a MCL2AV unit with an external IR eye. It can easier be hidden away. The MCL2AV is more limited than a Beomaster, so not bass and treble control, but if you plan on using the digital output on the CD player for sound that would not be an issue. Also if you go for analog sound you can route the sound around the MCL2AV and use it only for control.

 

 

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To add to Guy’s answer the cable you would need has to be special made. You cannot use a standard Powerlink cable for this connection.

Guy wrote:

You should then be able to change volume in the ML rooms, but not alter the source or turn on/off.

As Guy say. The controls in this setup is limited. If you wan’t to be able to control the sources in the Masterlink link room you could add and NL/ML converter to the setup. The 1611 converter will still be useful to power the Masterlink network provided you do not have a Masterlink Music system in the setup already.

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deaddruid wrote:

Just thinking about the diagram that you referenced…

The two ML networks are connected through back-to-back BLCs. How does one access the other? Is it (for example, from Core) N.RADIO gets network radio, whilst LINK, N.RADIO gets the phono from the second ML network?

Mark

No. in the NL/ML converter you can instead translate to an available source name, so if no video master is in that part of the ML network all commands like TV, DVD, V.MEM and DTV can be used to tranlate into the audio sources on the other ML network.

Hope this makes sense

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First of all sorry for taking some time to come back to you

deaddruid wrote:

I’m not sure whether I understand you correctly here. I’m familiar with the idea that a link room TV can access the sources attached to the video master. With later link room TVs, it was unnecessary to press LINK before the required source, as long as the link room TV didn’t have that source itself. However the LINK prefix command simply meant “get this next thing from the video master, not a local device”.

In case of an music system like the BC2 being used as a link room product it allready have the audio sources RADIO, CD and A.AUX, so to get these from the music system being the Audio master you will need to use the Link + Source commands.

deaddruid wrote:

Are you suggesting that if (say) the BC2 is the audio master, there may be a way to access the BS3200 via the BC2 over MasterLink, by using the LINK command?

No the audio master can not get sources from another music system with the same source names in the same Masterlink Network.

deaddruid wrote:

Or did you simply mean that commands can be routed to the audio master by using the LINK prefix (which is what I’m used to)?

Again unfortnuatly no unless you take the earlier mentioned approach of dividing the Masterlink network into sections with a number of NL/ML converters.

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pilatomic wrote:

Hello !

Time went by quite fast, but I have recently spent some more time improving the Beotooth firmware.

Besides a few minor bugfixes (the most visible being the MCP counter not being reset when disconnecting a Bluetooth device), the latest firmware features 2 new additions :

The Beotooth will now reconnect to the last Bluetooth device when receiving a play command from the Beosystem. Manually reconnecting is not required anymore, making starting playback a true one key operation, like an original B&O source.
Pairing mode can now be entered with the GOTO 0 PLAY key sequence on the Beolink / MCP. This is especially handy when wanting to pair a new device to a Beotooth that is tucked out of sight, and not easily reachable.

As with the previous version, just send me a PM / email to get the new firmware file.

Very nice that you keep updating this fantastic device 🙂

I will send you a PM to get the update.

Thanks in advance

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deaddruid wrote:

Obviously, there can be only one Audio Master!

Have I understood the limitations correctly?

That is correct. as a general rule only one of the listed devices can be an audiomaster in a masterlink network and serve it’s sources to the others.

However Depending on software versions in the BC2 and the BS3200 one of them might be able to work togheter with either the Beoport or the Beomedia 1 to serve sources, so you might be able to utilise two devices.

Also depending on software versions most of the products should be able to work as link room products (option 5 or 6) and be able to get the source from the Audiomaster with a Link + Source command.

Another possibility is to make more than one Masterlink network and connect them via NL/ML converters where you can choose wich sources should be available to which Masterlink network. An example of this is in the sketch in the first post of this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/flash-your-bo-newer-thread/page/3/

More than one Forum member has made something similar to keep several masterlink devices in the system, so there should be plentyfull of advice if you choose to go down that route.

Btw the Beoport and the Beomedia 1 is essential the same device where the Beomedia 1 has a Built in computer, so you might not benefit from having both in your system

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There is one for sale at the moment on the danish second had marketplace DBA.dk for 100€ + shipment

But just to clarify, the tester is only for the ML cables not the circitry in the BS9000

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