[Madskp]

XavierItzmann wrote:

Is your BC2 a Mk1 or Mk2 version?

I think it’s a MK1 (no DAB and no sound when touching the buttons)

The Head unit is Type 2801 and the socket unit type 2811. SW 1.3 (both on the labels and in the service menu), manufactured 2004, so probably an early one.

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[Madskp]

Jackson_db wrote:

Did you find a solution, similar issue with AV5 and Oveture

I guess the described solution can also be apossibility for you with the exception that the Ouverture might not be able to be in option 6 depending on the age of it

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[Madskp]

Manbearpig wrote:

I try to link a Beocenter 2 to a Beocenter AV5 via Masterlink. I have additional speakers connected to the Beocenter 2. What is the correct option setting for the Beocenter 2 and the Beocenter AV5? Normally it would be 1 each, but this results in both CD players turning on when pressing CD. Therefore, Beocenter AV5 in option 2 and Beocenter 2 in option 0 or option 5 seems right. However, using the AV button to transfer sound from one source to the other doesn’t work properly then. Any ideas how I can get that configuration to work properly, if any such configuration exists?

I can’t find any manual describing this scenario, neither any description of how option settings works for a Beocenter AV5.

I have a Beocenter 6, 22″ with Built in radio myself and have tried to see how that react to different option settings, so my answer is based on that, and things might work differently  on a Beocenter AV5.

On the Beocenter 6, 22″ the video option settings seems to have effect for both the video sources and the radio source.

If it set it to option 1 (or 5) I can only control the video sources when controlled locally

If I set it to option 2 (or 6) I can control both the video sources and the radio source when controlled locally

If I connect a link speaker I can only control the sources from that if the TV is in option 1 or 2.

Based on that I think that the Beocenter wil work as both and audio and video master at the same time when in option 1 or 2.

 

So to solve your issue I guess that you have to setup either the Beocenter AV5 or the Beocenter 2 as a link room in order to avoid conflict with two audio masters in the same system.

For example you can set the Beocenter AV5 in option 6 and the Beocenter 2 in option 0. That way you can control the sources on the Beocenter AV5 with normal commands, and the sources on the Beocenter 2 with Link + source commands. Downside is yo do not get sound out of the speakers connected to the Beocenter 2, and you can not distribute sources from the AV5 to other link rooms.

An other possibility is to set the Beocenter AV5 in option 2, and the Beocenter 2 in option 4, and no masterlink between them. That way you can control the sources on the Beocenter AV5 with normal commands, and the sources on the Beocenter 2 with Link + source commands. Downside is that one system is not linked to the masterlink network.

Hope this helps figuring out a way to use the system.

 

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[Madskp]

I can also confirm after a test that with a combination of BC2 (A.Opt 2)  and Beoport (Opt. 0) I also get the the metadata showing on the BC2 display

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[Madskp]

Here is a shot of my BS5 and BC2 combo where the BC2 shoes the metadata of the music played on the BS5. I will asume the data is displayed nearly the same way on the BS4

The BC2 is set as master (A.Opt 2) and the BS5 as no in Audiomaster

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[Madskp]

Take a look at this thread

https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/35714.aspx

The problem sounds like the one you have, and at some point the original poster confirms that he used a wrong cable to start with, and the right cable solved the problem

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[Madskp]

Sometimes a thread can really work fast when you are busy with other things 😀

Nice to hear that it all seems to work out even with the age of this device 😀

 

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

This is useful, thanks. I bought another MCL2AV from eBay but ‘untested’ as it was just the unit – no cables, power supply or IR eye. I thoight it was worth a shot though as it was only £10 and I already have the cables and IR eye from my old MCL2A. I’d like to test if it is working – I have a bunch of old power adapters, the closest one is 12v 1.25A – would that be risky given the higher amp rating? I’s have to reverse the polarity on it too but that’s simple enough.

I would not worry much about the higher ampere rating. The circiut should not draw more amps than needed unless there is a short circuit.

The polarity however is more crucial as that can kill the unit.

 

I have now tested 3 MCL2AV’s with the 12V supply without any issues, so pretty confident that a 15V supply is not needed.

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

but no matter what option I try, the N.Music audio will only ever come out of the PC speakers – I cannot get it to play through the connected Beolabs.

One thing that came to mind. Are you aware that a minijack cable has to be attached from the sound out on the PC and to sound in on the Beoport?

This might not be obvious, but because of the age of the Beoport it does not carry sound via USB

 

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XavierItzmann wrote:

Better to ask the manufacturer?

Well, the innnards might not be B&O, and guess that B&O support might not know much about this product now.

However reading about the topic for other brands, it sounds like the filesystem on a harddisk recorder might be properitary at not easily (if at all) readable on a computer, so might look for other methods of transfer

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

That link you gave doesn’t seem to work by the way.

Sorry, a mishap of switching between MacOS and Windows and using the wrong shortcuts for copy and paste 😉 The right link is this one https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beoport-beoplayer/

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I think I’ve tried every setting now and nothing seems quite right.  The closest I’ve got is the default setting of Option 6, and with the Powerlink cable to my Beolab speakers connected to the PC2, rather than direct to my BS4.  This will then play CD, radio from the BS4 through thr e speakers, and it will display track info for N.Music in the BS4 display, but no matter what option I try, the N.Music audio will only ever come out of the PC speakers – I cannot get it to play through the connected Beolabs.

Ok sounds odd that you get track info on the BS4 display, but no music. I have not been able to find much info about setups like this. However I stumbled upon a version of the danish manual for Beolink PC2 (rather than the newer manual for Beoport) that has this drawing (in Danish sorry):

This might suggest that the Beoport is setup as the Master in option 2, and the Beosound in option 0 (no remote). This will however require an allways on computer for remote control. Have you tried with the BS4 in option 1 or 2 and the Beoport in option 0?

CharlieWednesday wrote:

There are a good few options available in the Beoport software, to which, of course, the user manual makes no reference whatsoever!

The manual could be more thorough yes, but I also think that the software part of the product evoled over time, making a static manual problematic to handle all functionallity.

I have a Birthday for one of my kids tomorrow, but will try to dive a little more into it friday or saturday as I also wan’t to know more about how that should work.

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[Madskp]

This post https://“ServerURL”=”https://nradio.beoplayer.com/nradiodata.asp”

has some discussion about the N.radio features of the Beoport, and indeed some talking about a registry file.

I can however not figure out what ended up getting it to work in that thread. Maybe @Guy can help there

I just tried to uninstall the software on my PC to reinstall it and see if that changed anything, but ran into that I can’t install without the Beoport connected.

Will try kater when I am near the Beoport again

 

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I have it connected to my PC via USB, and also to an ML junction box which is them connected to my Beosound 4.  My Beolab speakers are connected to the BS4, not to the PC2.  If I hit N.Music on my Beo4, N.Music appears on the BS4 display, but nothing plays.

Have you setup options settings on the Beoport? This is done under Setup -> Config -> Advanced

It might be in option 6 (as a link room) as standard, and can’t distribute source to ML in that option.

CharlieWednesday wrote:

Also I was given to understand that N.Radio still has some limited functionality on a PC2/Beoport, but if I click that, the panel comes up on the left but everything juts says ‘Empty’

Looking at it on my computer (not connected to the Beoport at the moment) my radio list is also empty, and in the bottom is a text saying not registred. Something rings a bell about a registry file having to be applied, I wil try to see if I can find some more info.

 

 

 

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[Madskp]

Lucas Monet wrote:

https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/bl3500-and-the-mcl-pl-connector/#post-44537

Then you are most likely missing the ground connection from your bluetooth adapter. You can see the difference in pinout between the cable for a Beolab 3500 MK1 and MK2 (most likely the cable you have) in number 2 post in this thread https://www.hifi4all.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32157&PN=1&TPN=30

The specific cable for the Beolab 3500 MK1 are sold by several sellers including one of this sites sponsors Sounds Heavenly https://soundsheavenly.com/airport-express/155-2344-ipodtvairport-express-to-beolab-3500-mk2-cable.html#/2-length-1m/62-beolab_3500_version-mark_1

This will still have the limitations mentioned in my earlier post

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[Madskp]

Are you using a standard 7 Pin DIN to minijack adapter or one that is made for a Beolab 3500 MK1?

The reason for asking this is that the wirering of the adapter is different and could affect what you are experiencing

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[Madskp]

Lucas Monet wrote:

But the speaker seems to be faulty because ticking noise starts immediatly and is accompagnied with a permanent bzzzzzz noise.

That sound like normal behaviour when using the test mode if the BL3500 is not connected to anything. For good measure I just double checked with one of my own BL3500’s and it does the same too. Not very loud though.

Lucas Monet wrote:

Do you have an idea how to fix this ?

I would expect it to go away if you connect something to it. What are you trying to achive?

The Menu + 0 + 4 + GO solution is not very good both because of the cumbersome way to active it + no volume control, and the speaker will go into standby if you press a button on the remote.

A more elegant solution was found in another thread where a 1611 converter connected via Masterlink give two remote controlled inputs to the BL3500. User Matador made a great setup drawing of this concept in this post https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beolab-3500-and-1611-converter-settings/page/22/#post-42623

Other alternatives are also mentioned in this post https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/bl3500-and-the-mcl-pl-connector/#post-44537

Hope this helps

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[Madskp]

Stan wrote:

I have my BeoMaster5 set to a fixed IP address, but I don’t remember how I did it.  I’d like to change it.  Does this require going into the service menu?

Haven’t tried it myself, but wold think so. On the Windows desktop there should be an icon labeled network connections. If you go to that you should be able to see something probably called local area connection. Right click on that and select properties. Now you should see an option to select TCP/IP, and in that you should be able to change the IP adress

Hope this leads you the right way althought only based on my knowledge about Windows XP, and not doing it on a BS5

griebel wrote:

A fixed IP is defined in the internet router not in the BeoMaster5

That is one way to do it, but most if not all network devices has the possiblity to set an IP address manually. There is a risk of conflicts with other devices having the same IP with this method, but can work fine. I have several network devices with a manually set IP address in the high end of the network range, and have not had any issues doing it that way.

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[Madskp]

skolesen wrote:

That’s normal behavior for the MCP series (5000/5500/6500) and the blanking time can’t be adjusted. /steffen

Thanks. Good to know that it works as it should do 😀

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I want a power adapter for an MCL2AV but I can’t seem to find the right one.  I’m no electrician, so don’t want to get it wrong and fry the damned thing. The MCL 2AV unit is printed with ‘DC 15v, Max 250mA’, and while it is easily possible to find a power supply of 15v, the output in amps is always far greater than  250mA. Any ideas?

This thread has got me thinking as I recently acuried 4 extra MCL2AV units as part of a LOT and none of them has a power supply. I have one 15V 400mA, but that was actually not easy to find, and I had to fit a new connector to it to get the right polarity.

 

Looking at the schematics for the MCL2AV shows that the 15V is actually only used for the passive speaker relay which is only used when the MCL2AV is programmed to work as an MCL2A.

So I tried with a 12V 300mA power supply with exchangeble connectors that I had lying arround. This also made it easy to get the right polarity.

And for my first test with a MCL2AV with a Beogram CD 4500 connected and active speakers (in this case a Beolink Passive with passive speakers) everything seems to work. I tested it with the older type 2020 MCl2AV, and the 5V and 12V rails are the same values as when I use the 15V supply.

On the newer type MCL2AV without the antenna connection the passive speaker relay along with the connectors are removed, so I will asume that should also work without issues. My best guess is the 15V rating is to secure that the 12V and 5V levels can be stable even when the relay is active.

Hope this is helpfull

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[Madskp]

Madskp wrote:

CharlieWednesday wrote: I’m also wondering why it was necessary to have your BC2 on option 6 – would it not work on option 1?  Also, on the MC22AV, what the hell is option 2.5!? In this setup the 1611 acts as the “main room” and are serving it’s sources, the MCL2AV to the “link rooms” which in this case is the BC2. If the BC2 were setup in option 1 (or 2 for that matter) it would then be the “main room”, and could not get sources with the Link + commands.

One extra note. Other “link rooms” like your Beolab 3500 will not be able to fetch the sources from the BS4 in this setup. Only the sources from the 1611/MCL2AV will be available, so you might miss some functionality if you choose to go this way

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