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Great – I am glad it works!
I was a little confused about the SOUND function earlier because on later versions of the Beo4 SOUND is added to LIST as a discrete function, not part of the A SETUP sub-list. (eg. on my DTV Beo4, A SETUP just shows BASS, TREBLE, LOUDNSS, S.STORE).
Anyway, all sorted and I hope that you get your MCP fixed!
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@Guy, my Beo4 indeed has an AV button in the middle of row 2, however that doesn’t even make it display AV!
It’s not supposed to display AV – that function enables you to get Video audio through an Audio product and vice versa – I only asked about it to check what version of Beo4 you have.
Any clues where Balance might be hiding?
Try adding SOUND* to the list function and point at the Beomaster, press GO and observe the display.
* EDIT: Just realised that SOUND is already showing under your A.SETUP, hence I think that should work. Pressing OK whilst SOUND is displayed should cycle through sound control options (including balance) on the Beomaster’s display.
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From memory there’s also a little microswitch* next to the optical sensor. This is mechanically operated by the wheel and basically tells the system which way the wheel is turning. I would look at that in the first instance.
(* as opposed to a ‘big’ microswitch 😀)
EDIT2: This thread discusses the problem and has a useful photo of the switch: https://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/t/35687.aspx
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Pressing LIST takes me through a long list of options, none of which seem to take me to controlling balance / bass / treble.
As MM stated above, the option that you need to add is A SETUP. Once this is in your LIST, you select it and press GO, then BASS, TREBLE etc will be displayed.
(I think your Beo4 is the initial ‘AV’ version (with an AV button in the middle of the second row). This version does indeed display OPTION before ADD when you go to the setup mode. It is also quite an old remote so will not have as many functions as newer Beo4s. It should still have the A SETUP function though)
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One observation: When I move the mouse pointer to the right edge of the screen it doesn’t automatically bring out the control buttons (Beo4-like display). I have to click on the ‘B&O’ icon in the notifications tray to open the controls. Strange – maybe something to do with my display settings.
Just wanted to add here that I solved this problem on the laptop by going into windows ‘settings’ ‘system’ ‘display’ and playing with the ‘scale’ settings (not the resolution). I reduced from the windows recommended 150% to 125% and restarted – the Beoport control panel now appeared via clicking the usual little triangle. I then returned to the recommended 150% and it still worked.
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Hi and welcome to Beoworld!
You need to make sure that your DIN to RCA connector sends the input to pins 3&5 of the DIN connector. Your lead is probably a DIN output using pins 1&4. (EDIT: You don’t need a 7-pin DIN, a 5-pin DIN will work)
The correct connections are as follows:
EDIT: And make sure that you connect to the AUX input of the Ouverture and not one of the Powerlink sockets!
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The one that I used was downloaded from here (big blue ‘download now’ button in the centre): https://beoport.software.informer.com/download/
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Hi and welcome to Beoworld!
Is it possible to mount it to a Beovision 7-32 floor stand?
Possibly, but at the very least you’d need to fit the following BV10-40-specific part to the back of your TV before clipping it onto the BV7-32 stand interface. This would be as hard to find as the whole stand, and once on the BV7-32 it wouldn’t hang at the right angle because the geometry of the supporting bracket is wrong.
The TV is not designed to be leant against the wall, so do so at your own risk! I would be tempted to re-inforce the summerhouse wall with a large sheet of marine ply and use your wall mount.
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I have Beoplayer and Beotray in my start up apps and it starts it up and is then always available via the right hand side of the screen. Didn’t work well under Windows 10, had to authorise the app every time.
I suspected a display compatibility problem with the laptop – especially as it has a touchscreen. I therefore connected the Win11 laptop to my PC’s 26inch Dell monitor and the Beoport control panel now appears on the right hand side as normal, including showing the ‘HOLD’ button.
Hence I would have no hesitation in installing Beoport/Beoplink PC2 on a Windows 11 PC in the future. (The only limitation is the strange muting on change of N RADIO channel, which has been a problem since Win7)
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I have Beoplayer and Beotray in my start up apps
Same here, but the controls still won’t appear on the right hand side. Also, when I do click in the notifications tray to get the controls, the HOLD button is missing so I can’t keep it displayed!
The controls on the left side of the screen appear normally (eg when playing N MUSIC or N RADIO)
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I just did a clean install of Beoport on a Windows 11 laptop and it installed fine, including prompting me to connect the USB cable for the Beolink PC2 hardware. I have run the Beoport/Beolink PC2 stand-alone using the Powerlink output for audio.
I have to run the registry editor file mentioned in the other thread to get it to update the radio stations. There are hundreds showing as usual, but it still exhibits that frustrating problem where the volume mixer mutes the ‘BeoNetRadio’ whenever you change stations.
I added a few mp3 files and tried N.MUSIC – that works fine.
I also added an IR sensor to the Beoport/Beolink PC2 and can control all functions with Beo4.
One observation: When I move the mouse pointer to the right edge of the screen it doesn’t automatically bring out the control buttons (Beo4-like display). I have to click on the ‘B&O’ icon in the notifications tray to open the controls. Strange – maybe something to do with my display settings.
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I do actually have a Windows 11 laptop with me this week, so in the next few days I will try a normal install of Beoport and connect my Beolink PC2 to see if it works. I will get back to you with the results.
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Does the essence have a wifi option?
Yes it will connect to wifi so you don’t have to use a wired network.
If you do get an Essence, make sure that you get a Mk2 which (unlike the Mk1) has support for NL/Beolink Multiroom.
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I am not sure how you are triggering the Beolab at the moment – do you have a separate (maybe USB) 5V supply to turn it on?
One solution could be to add a Beosound Essence Mk2. Connect your TV hdmi arc extractor output to the Essence’s auto sensing line input, and connect the Beolab to the Essence PL output.
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Hi Carl G and welcome back to Beoworld!
I have the Beoport (Beolink PC2) software running on my Windows 10 (32-bit) PC, and I have also tried it successfully on a Windows 11 Virtual Machine, as reported here: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beoport-beoplayer/page/3/#post-39484
There is one strange problem (also mentioned in that thread) with the muting of radio stations, but I think this has bugged Beoport since the move from Vista!
If Beoport runs, then as long as Windows 11 can find the driver it should be fine with the hardware. Have a search of the Forum for other Beoport threads and you may find additional info or someone who is using the hardware with Windows 11.
I am delaying the move to Windows 11 as long as possible; my desktop PC will be 16 years old in September and I don’t like being forced to change it! 🙁
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BS7000 PL and DL connected to T1611 – ML connected to BLC – set as ASlave (thus no speakers) Next and Previous, Sources are accepted
This was the closest to something that I can replicate, hence I have just tried with my BC2300 and BLC set to ASlave (instead of V Master). It works as yours, but only when ‘Product Controlled by apps’ is set to ‘Beolink Converter NL/ML’. (not ML Audiomaster). I don’t have any audio products with ML, so can’t try without the BL1611.
I presume you did set the sources in the BLC page “experience mapped to NL”?
Yes, and I have re-checked this each time I have altered anything on the ‘settings’ page.
So your experience with your setting is not coherent with my findings of my system.
Only in that I can get full B&O app control of a TV when connected directly to BLC by ML. (i.e I can start it ‘unmuted’ with the app, and control fully thereafter including volume.) As stated above, I don’t have any audio products with ML hence can’t replicate your Bs9000 or BS3000 findings (hence the reason I wondered whether they would behave like my TV). If you get a chance do you have any Beolabs that you could temporarily connect to your BS3000 to see if you can use the app to start it in an unmuted state?
I would say the ‘Product Controlled by apps’ is not defining how the BLC reacts.
But it is changing the behaviour (specifically app control of ‘ML’ products) in the setups that I have described above.
Anyway, many thanks for the valuable feedback and input. Rest assured that I can get the BLC to do everything that I need it to do but was experimenting to try and help Beofile7 with his ambitious BS7000 control requirements.
And good luck with the house move – it’s always fun setting up B&O somewhere new!
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You can’t use the Halo to do this. A compromise! Simple as that!
@Carolpa: Can I just ask your understanding of the limitation here?For example, if I connect my BLC to my BV10-32 by masterlink, set the BLC as an A Master, and set the ‘Product Controlled by apps’ to ‘ML Videomaster’ I can use the B&O app for full control of the TV (turn on/off, change channels, control volume, change sources).
But with the BLC connected to my BC2300 by ML/BL1611/AAL, setting the BLC as a V Master, if I then set the ‘Product Controlled by apps’ to ‘ML Audiomaster’ I have no control whatsoever over the BC2300. If I change the ‘Product Controlled by apps’ to ‘Beolink Converter NL/ML’ then I can use the app to start and control the BC2300, but in a muted state as described earlier.
So I am guessing that the BLC enables full app control of a product when connected by ML only, and that the BL1611 introduces limitations (possibly due to the use of AAL). If the BLC was connected to an ML equipped audiomaster would full control (volume etc) be possible?
(EDIT: I don’t know anything about Halo, but am I right in saying that if the B&O app can control something on ML via BLC, then Halo should also be able to control?)
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I think I was suffering from finger trouble with the Beo4? Sources need to be selected first. With the Beolink 7000 it knows the source… the Beomaster 7000 tells it.
That makes sense – it’s easy to forget the logic of the Beo4 and the requirement to check the screen and select the source first!
I will bear your suggestion of an I/R sensor in mind but I am not sure about having the main connection between Beomaster 7000 and Beolab 50 going through multiple conversions and cables and units. I feel much more comfortable having a direct powerlink from the master to the speakers. But it may be an option?
Yes maybe worth thinking about for the future. One other advantage of the BLC IR sensor (and speakers) scheme is that if you are playing a BM7000 source in both the main room and an NL room the sound will be synchronised, because the Analogue to Digital delay will be equally applied to the BLC powerlink output and any NL audio output.
Then again, I was saying that 3 weeks ago when this started. ???
Three weeks is nothing … I have been experimenting and learning for 18 years! 😀
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I have managed to “unmute” the sound using the Beolink 7000. ‘Not sure why that would not work with the Beo4? The system then is fully controllable via I/R and the Beoconverter will control sources/tracks etc. but again no volume. As the purpose of all of this is to control the 7000 via a Halo (which is essentially a volume control) the project is failing badly?
Strange that the BL7000 with control the BM7000 but not the Beo4. Does the Beo4 work for other control once unmuted?
I still think it would be worth trying an IR sensor (and the BL50s) connected to the BLC. I think this would give you the control that you are seeking. I am using an old style ML sensor connected to the BLC, hence no great expense involved and it is easy to connect to the BLC IR input via a correctly wired RJ45.
I don’t know enough about BL50 to comment about suitability of feeding their RCA input from the BLC’s powerlink, but be careful!
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What if you redirect the FM Radio command in the IR mapping of the BLC to another source?
Thanks for suggestion. I just tried A.MEM and then TV. Either allows me to turn on FM Radio using the Beo4 (i.e by pressing A.MEM or TV on the remote), but FM RADIO still doesn’t appear as an available BLC source on the app. It’s not really a major limitation; as you suggested before, if I add my Essence and/or Beoplay M3 to the NL side I can see and select FM RADIO as an app-controlled source (on Essence/M3 respectively, still not visible on BLC).
Anyway this is drifting away from @Beofile7’s problems – I wonder how he is getting on? I find it strange that he cannot ‘unmute’ his BM7000 with the Beo4 once it has been started from elsewhere in the NL system. I would try disconnecting the BM7000 from the BLC and checking that it works fine as a stand-alone system (just with Beolabs connected).
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