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Hi Avalon,
Sorry but I think your questions belong in a new thread, under BeoSound forum, since this thread, I started is titled: Beomaster 5: Sound menu missing?
Only those who look under this thread will see your questions.BR
PeterMoved! Hope everyone can still see/find it! 😀
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Wie krieg ich denn das Video eingebunden? Klappte doch früher ganz einfach?
Sorry for reply in English!
To get the video above I simply clicked the ‘share’ button in YouTube, copied the link and pasted into the forum.
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Hi Robert and welcome to Beoworld!
You need to add an RIAA Pre-Amplifier between the Beogram and the BC2300. The BM3000 would have had a built in RIAA pre-amp.
Sounds Heavenly advertise this one and will supply the correct cable adaptors: https://soundsheavenly.com/products/pre-amp-bundle-for-b-o-beogram-and-all-turntables
Or this one from OneRemote would ‘future proof’ your system because if you buy a non-RIAA remote-controllable B&O turntable in the future it would allow remote control: https://shop.oneremote.dk/shop/69068-riaa-forstaerker/121270-riaa-iii-forforstaerker/
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Great set up, as pepps said! I also use Airport Express, although currently plugged into a BeoSound 1 (older CD/radio type).
I normally unplug it all but have been thinking of only unplugging the Pentas to give the amp power supplies a rest?
I have a theory that unplugging a Beocenter overnight (or when away from home) may encourage the processor’s back up battery (a 3V lithium CR2450) to fail earlier. Basically it’s got to do more work to keep the processor backed up when not getting mains power. My mother-in-laws BC9500 (which she used to switch off every night) failed much earlier than the one in my BC9500 (rarely disconnected from mains). Obviously a small sample size, but surely there’s some logic to my theory!
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Great news! Thanks for coming back to let us know that it worked – I am sure the information will be useful for future B&O enthusiasts and Forum members 😀
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Beogram 4000 relay board repair or replace need part or board
Perhaps you could take the time to elaborate a little on your post (and maybe include a few pleasantries – it seems a bit demanding/off-putting at present!). There are a number of people on this friendly forum who can probably help with the problem you are experiencing, but we are not mind-readers!
What’s the problem, and do you need advice, a replacement part, or potentially both?
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The system is set up as a stand-alone system, with speakers connected to the power-link connectors, however the speakers are not B&O but work similarly. I don’t think this could cause the issue.
I think this could still be worth further investigation.
Have a look at this post/thread – shows that a resistor between PL pins 2 and 4 is required to act as ‘speaker sense’: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/powerlink-speaker-sense-plug-wiring/#post-52035
This thread refers specifically to BS/BM5: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-5-beomaster-5-non-bo-amp/
As mentioned ain the above link, Steve at Sound Heavenly produces a speaker sense plug to put in the spare PL socket in such setups (usually BS9000): https://soundsheavenly.com/products/beosound-9000-and-beosystem-9000c-speaker-sense-adapter-gives-remote-control-functions-when-no-speakers-are-connected
Other than that I have run out of ideas – perhaps another forum member with a BS5 can comment, or check the behaviour of their system.
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Hi Peter and welcome to Beoworld!
I see in the manual that the SOUND menu disappears when the Audiomaster is in A.OPT 0.
Are speakers connected? I am not sure whether the BM5 defaults to A.OPT 0 if no speakers are connected (like BS9000). Try connecting powerlink speakers.
Alternatively, have you tired all the other A.OPTs of 1, 2, 5 and 6?
Is the BM connected to anything else by Masterlink? If so, try disconnecting and re-set the A.OPT.
EDIT: And I think that the A.OPT has to be set in both the BeoSound and the Beomaster. If you haven’t already got a copy, search for the ‘BeoSound 5 Installation Manual’ and lave a look at pages 20/21.
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One of my BS1s behaves like that if I haven’t used it for a while. In fact I just tried playing a CD on my study BS1 and it did the same!
I think the trick is to use if more often! The cogs and sliders in the CD mechanism possibly get a bit sticky if unused. Once it’s running, leave a CD to play all the way through, and exercise the mechanism by moving backwards and forwards through tracks. Try a few different CDs – very old or very new ones, and of different lengths.
You can also go into service mode and command the CD laser to focus and move – but I usually leave that until the problem persists for a while.
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I must contradict you, I fear.
It is however, a long time ago, but if I recall well:
At some point with the BV7 MK1 B&O used the so-called ‘DVI-solution’ for the HD-tuner…..because it offered a better PQ.
This was indeed ‘internal connected’.No worries MM, you may well be right about the internal DVI. Most of my knowledge is based upon my own BV6 and BV10 ownership, I ‘ve never owned a BV7.
@Alcy’s BV7-40 is indeed a Mk1, so that could well be the problem.
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Great news. It’s amazing how temperamental these phones are, but always very satisfying to finally get them working!
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Hi and welcome to Beoworld – hopefully we can help!
Firstly, it should be the CONNECTIONS menu (under OPTIONS) where you tell the TV what is connected, what input to select on Beo4 to use it (DVD, V.MEM etc) and what digital input to use – DVI. Have you followed the procedure in the User Manual, and if so is your User Manual specific to the type of BV7 that you are using, with the DVB module installed?
There are quite a few different SW versions of BV7, so it is difficult to know what might be in both the Service Menu and the normal user menu.
I have read that this could be due to the fact that the DVB tuner is using this entry internally ( no cables on the outside ), and therefore there DVI is reserved for this, and can’t be chosen in the HDTV option as @ravsted suggests here.
I don’t think that the internal DVB tuner would disable the DVI input – I have had a look at the DVB module installation guide and don’t see any mention of using DVI.
Unfortunately, I can’t see any option to disable this, as in the service menu, when select DTV, only displays info version. …. maybe @69er can help here to guide us….
Have you searched the rest of the Service Menu? Maybe a Tuner Setup page?
Alternatively, some of the later BV7s had a TUNER SETUP menu in the main (not service) menu under OPTIONS, where it was possible to turn off the DVB tuner. Have a thorough search there.
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Even though not an exact match to my 3500 it looks quite nice. I made a little stand for it yesterday to tuck it under my Hifi stand.
Nice neat setup. And great to see a BeoCom 2000 – is it connected? I have one of those (in red) in a box somewhere.
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^ Great solution @madskp – I would buy that!
I wasn’t aware of that, so perhaps it’s a new product. I assume it swaps the datalink across from pin 6 to 7.
I was aware of this older version, but I don’t think it’s available any longer: http://www.iconic-av.co.uk/item/1321/RIAA+Pre-Amplifier+with+Datalink+for+BeoGrams/
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Did you see the note about resetting base pin number to 0000? I posted earlier (4 up) but before you replied.
Failing that, I’m all out of ideas. But it’s been fun thinking about it! 😀
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Non-RIAA turntables pass datalink through DIN pin 6.
RIAA equipped turntables pass datalink through DIN pin 7 (the same as other B&O line level components, like CD players).
If not fitted with RIAA (some were) your BM3500 will expect datalink on input DIN pin 7, hence you will need to modify your DIN lead (in addition to adding a pre-amp) in order to remote control the turntable.
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Yes, only one base is now shown in that menu.
I think that it’s possibly then an incompatibility problem. If you go back to the compatibility table that I posted earlier, then the Mk1 versions of both BeoCom 6000 and BeoCom 2 are shown as incompatible with Beoline Mk2. In practice they will often work as basic phones but with some limitations.
I also found I had a Beocom 6000 pyramid PSTN, so I tried to connect the Beocom 5 to that too. Same result – it continues to search for the base, but it doesn’t find it (and yes, the base is in discoverable mode).
The BC6000 Mk1 is fully compatible with the pyramid PSTN. Have you tried resetting that base and then registering the BeoCom 5?
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Just wondered if you’ve seen this post about resetting the base PIN code to 0000:
https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/18641/161888.aspx
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In response to your second reply, I’ve already tried that. I reset both my Beocom 6000 Mk1, then relinked it to the base successfully. Knowing that it was linked to only that one base I tried again to reset the base with DOT 70008, but again I go the ‘Not Base 1’ error.
So if you use the BC6000 to go to the ‘select base’ menu (DOT MENU 7 then ‘select base’) is there only one base listed when you use the wheel to scroll? I only ask this because I can not convinced that a handset reset deletes all the data. (From memory, I think at least handset name stays).
I tried the same with my Beocom 2 (which is a Mk1). After resetting it and relinking it, I get ‘Wait’ if I try ‘Reset Base’ via the 9#9#9* INT menu.
I can’t find a BC2 Mk1 manual (I only have Mk2) to see if it also has the ‘select base’ menu anyway.
As an aside, I think that the Mk1 versions of BC6000 and BC2 both had the ‘select base’ facility because that was a (clunky) way of using them with two-phone lines. Later models like the Beocom 2 (US) and BC5 had two-line functionality built in when using with two-line PSTNs.
I found another post (can’t find it again now to link it!) when someone had the same issue as me with a BC5 and a BL Mk2, and they solved it by letting the BC5 battery run down while it was displaying ‘Register handset to base?’, then when they charged it and tried again, it linked first time! I’m running the battery down now so I can try that.
Worth a try! I do find that these BeoComs sometime behave in the strangest of ways, particularly at different states of battery charge!
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