[Madskp]

Klaus Stoetzel wrote:

Sidenote: the LCS9000 is used with option 2, only other option settable was 4 but no sound, no reaction on opt 5 and 6

Ok there might be limitations on this since it’s SW 1.0. In an older post on the old forums it was mentioned that Masterlink was not even compatible in the first version, so the option settings might relate more to what it was in the older MCL products

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[Madskp]

Klaus Stoetzel wrote:

C18 was the issue, works flawless now on the BS5500 and comes up with MCL sel .. Yeah! I will try to patch an Arylic S10 onto the LCS for some half-mobile streaming sound unit

Great to hear that it was possible to solve 😀

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[Madskp]

Klaus Stoetzel wrote:

and yes, absolutely positive it is a Beolab LCS 9000 (SW 1.0) as per the label close to the power connector

Thanks. Interesting to know that it was actually labelled as such.

Klaus Stoetzel wrote:

And sure, you are right, the AUX is not regulated .. so in any case I need to fix the IR first I fear 🙁

Yes I am afraid so. Right now I realize that the volume regulation issue you have experienced is because you can not volume control the LCS9000 itself. The LCS9000 has a circuitry to compensate for volume differences from the amplifier in the BM5500, so if you raise the volume on the BM5500 the LCS9000 will try to compensate and lower down the volume (i think in 4 steps).  This is so it is possible to do individual volume control on the LCS9000. So you might only have issues with the IR eye.

 

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[Madskp]

Welcome to Beoworld, and glad you appreciate this thread 🙂

For starters, you call the link speaker LCS9000, and the SW 1.0 tell me that it is an early version you have. Out of curiosity is it actually labeled LCS9000 on the speaker? Just asking as I have not yet seen it printed on one.

Klaus Stoetzel wrote:

Would the special DIN cable mentioned upthread probably allow the LCS9000 to perform better, taking the amplifyer out?

If it is the cable pinout mentioned in this post https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/bl3500-and-the-mcl-pl-connector/#post-44540 then yes that will bypass the need for the amplifier in the BM5500 and work just as a not volume regulated line out signal for the LCS9000, so the volume control is only on the LCS9000

Klaus Stoetzel wrote:

The lack of IR on the LCS9000 should require the two caps to be replaced, right?

That might be the case yes. This thread has a great guide on replacing them https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beolab-3500-sometimes-responds-to-remote-control-sometimes-it-doesnt/#post-29738

Before you do that however you might try if it has been set to option 0  at some point (no IR). With a Beolink 1000 you can press Link + 6 + Store and see if it responds with Option 6 in the display (option 6 is link room with both Audio and Video commands).

Klaus Stoetzel wrote:

The DIN to Jack cable (as from SoundsHeavenly) would be my best/easiest bet on hookup to i.e. S10 srtreamer (after the IR fix obviously)

That is an easy connection yes. However you have to use the Menu + 0 + 4 +Go combination to activate it and have no volume control with the remote + any remote press will put the speaker to standby.

I would like to recommend some of the other options mentioned in this thread where Masterlink is used, however with the SW 1.0 I am not sure how much will work and how much will not.

Please let me know if you need other input

 

 

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[Madskp]

Stefan Leuenberger wrote:

If I understand you correctly, I would connect the Beolink Converter type 1611 with a Masterlink cable to the NL/ML converter.

That is correct

Stefan Leuenberger wrote:

But how to connect the NL/ML converter to the rest of my Masterlink setup (3 Beolab 3500)? There is only one Masterlink socket on the NL/ML converter.

Actually there is 2 where one of them is a RJ45 connector. So you can use a RJ45 to ML cable. Another option is to use a ML junction box and split some ML cables and make a Y connection between them

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[Madskp]

lausvi wrote:

I’d presume most of the audio/video are just pass-thru, and the boards mainly relate to the datapins on the different buses.

Just for fun I have tried to look at the traces on some of the ports, and indeed the audio and Video parts are just passthrough between the two corresponding connectors in each column.

Datapins from AUX and PL ports seems to be connected as well as the ground connections on them indication that the AUX ports are for datalink86/MCL data signals

The apl1 and apl2 connectors seems to have pin 6 and 7 connected indicating that it is datalink 80 for connection of a Beocord/Beogram/Beogram CD as they can use both pins for data.

The Svarct connections (AVL) also have all it’s datapins connected although as far as I can tell from the photos pin 8 might not be passed through between the two scart connectors

Hope this can be useful for further investigation on what this thing was used for

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[Madskp]

Stefan Leuenberger wrote:

Thank you very much. I have ordered one of them. Most probably I will come back with more questions. I have an old fashion Master Link only system with Beolab 8000, some Beolab 3500 steered by Beosound 5/Beomaster 5. Recently the Beomaster 5 became unreliable and I had to reboot it very often. Because of that I would like to replace it with the Beolink ML/NL. I hope I can connect my Apple Airport Express and use it as the Music Source (from iPhone or iPad) and also my Synology NAS.

One thing you will need if you replace the  BS5/BM5 with the NL/ML converter is a way to supply the correct voltages to the ML system as the NL/ML converter cannot do that.

You can either use a ML powerbox (if you are able to find one) or a Beolink Converter type 1611 where you only connect the ML side

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[Madskp]

Looking at the Beosystem 10 product page there seems to be some kind of error where the documents should be. Multicare is in the proces of updating the product pages and adding manuals, so it might show up at some point. You can also try to contact Multicare through the contact page and I am sure the will be happy to help you find the manual if available ( I think it was available before the update)

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[Madskp]

skolesen wrote:

For arround 7 years ago I purchased a complete Beosystem 6500 in white. The MCP 6500 main PCB was in bad shape due to leaking batteries and had been stored away until now. Thanks to fellow Beoworld member Madskp who has supplied me with a doner MCP, I now have a fully functional mint white MCP complementing my Beosystem 🙂

Great to see that my donor parts could help make one working and by the looks great looking MCP 😀

Hopefully you can avoid future battery leakage

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[Madskp]

You should use the 2 pin connector for connecting passive speakers.

The third pin carries data and power for use in a multiroom system (MCL)

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[Madskp]

Regarding removal of SMD caps see my two last posts here https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-9000-ir-repair-pcb-14/#post-55674

Especially the youtube video is very usefull.

 

regarding the flat cable rip an alternative could be to solder two thin wires directly to the solder blobs on the motor and find the corrosponding signals on the PCB and solder the other ends of the wires there. I did that with a harddrive once to get it working again. Not sure if there might be any downsides to this method other than routing of and space for the wires

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[Madskp]

This unit is very intriguing.

I have been looking at the picture of the front several times since you posted, and I am wondering about the 3 columns of connectors named 1, 2 and 3 for both AUX, PL and AVL, and also the labeling master and slave in the bottom of the scart connectors.

Can you see if the connctors in the single columns (for example 1) are directly connected internally so they work as a passthrough or if they go through some circytry on the board? This could indicate wheether alle types of connectors in one column. are both master and slave

I wonder if the IR sockets might be for direct use with the 7 pin DIN IR connectors on the round IR eyes for Beolink active and Passive.

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[Madskp]

Nice writeup. There is something about those blue B&O instruments. You can almost feel the quality of them.

I had a student job in the drawing archive in the R&D department of B&O for a year back in 1996/1997. Those blue instruments were all over the place in the R&D department back then.

I have a SN14 power supply myself that I have had for almost 30 years now and had much use of. It might need some servicing by now though as the voltage regulation is a little unstable now.

I also have this box with a disassembled  TG7  and an extra main PCB that I got from my father. He has no idea what might be wrong with it, and its not high on my priority list. But maybe someday 😀

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[Madskp]

For that use case the 1611 is the correct option.

it is possible to use the Beosystem 2500 with MCL by use of a Beolink Passive or ML-MCL converter.

It connects to the Beosystem with powerlink and converts to MCL

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[Madskp]

And yes a 1614 can not be used in this scenario

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[Madskp]

The Beosystem 2500 (and 2300) does not have masterlink, but you are right they can convert to masterlink with the use of the 1611 converter connected to the AUX socket of the Beosystem

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[Madskp]

kirin wrote:

Then, my second of two comments: Could maybe the indent while citation is applied be decreased? Otherwise only few or even only one character is displayed. Please see also the attachment.   I believe it is not easy getting all these browsers running / displaying things correctly, I keep fingers crossed …

I can add that this has not been like this all the time with the new forum. I first observed it in the post you are refering to, and I use the citation feature a lot

Edit: also have a iPhone SE 2020

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[Madskp]

There was recently a thread about the same issue for a Beovision 11 (same platform as the V1), and in the last post in that thread user Vikinger tells that ha had to take his BV11 to a dealer to have it updated correctly as the USB stick method was not working in that case

https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/netradio-in-beovision-11/page/2/

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[Madskp]

Multicare wrote:

Madskp wrote:

I Also have diagrams/service manuals for some vintage TV’s

Hi, I have finally looked through all the manuals that we received, we dont have the following. If you are happy to scan them that would be great 😎

• Capri TV 606
• Capri TV 608
• Capri TV 609 FM
• Grand Prix TV 514
• Grand Prix TV 607
• Beovision 1300
• Beovision Type 3206-3223
• Beovision Type 3131-3132-3135-3136
• Beovision 300-700-100-1800

Also moved topic to BeoWorld Feature / Problem

I will bring them to the large format scanner and send them to you when done

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[Madskp]

You will need a 3.5mm minijack to rca cable to connect the Alexa and UCA222.

Be aware that you have to activate the A.AUX on the Beomaster/Beosound 5 for the music to pass through that to the speakers, so you can not voice control the whole process

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