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[patcherley]

Firstly, I would like to echo what YannChris said about the lack of user manuals, I have spent ages going through every screen I could find to try and set up the Core.  I have only just found the screen to tell the Core what type of speaker it is attached to!

I have a Beovision Eclipse,  Beomaster7000 (with CD, Cassette tape, Beogram and a OneRemote), and a NL/ML converter.

On the setting up local sources screen, I can see all my Eclipse and Masterlink sources and have selected the ones I want. But on the screen to select the source to play I can only see one Eclipse source and one Masterlink source and I think these were there before I selected any local sources.

Any ideas on what I can do?

Also, I thought I would have B&O Radio on the Core but have Tunein.

Regards Paul

[Mbee]

I’ve got new feedback from B&O headquarters.

For them, it’s not possible for 2 reasons, but the reasons doesn’t seem to be valid :

1. Mechanically the cutout is different : of course, but as I said, as the newer panels are smaller, they can fit, there will just be a gap…
2. Eclipse Gen 1 doesn’t support eARC : here I can’t understand, as the only way to connect the soundcenter to the C7 panel is to use the HDMI2, its only ARC HDMI input ! The Eclipse mkI already used ARC, and eARC is retrocompatible with ARC speakers…

[Sandyb]

I moved from 18s (up front) to 50s, but that was primarily for music reasons, as the 18s never really did it for me music wise.

But in your case, I’m pretty sure 28s are more than adequate, in fact they’d be very good for both films and music.

As for only having a Theatre up front, and using 18s/28s/8000s (whichever) as rears (the Theatre triangle, if you will), while its a feasible option (vs previous BVs) because the Theatre as centre unit can create a wider soundstage on its own than an Eclipse for example, that width only goes so far.

In the store I listened to the triangle (no fronts) and then the triangle with added 18s front L/R – and having dedicated fronts was a good deal better.

 

[NQVHNWI]

Having dumped the Eclipse mk1 as soon as the Theatre came out….that’s the first think I would do all over again in an instant.

The speaker choice is a bit more complicated. If you are not into listening to high quality music (with a quality non-B&O source I would add), save money on not getting the BL50s.

I am not a fan (anymore) of the BL28s and it is because I don’t like their design and the faff of the wooden slats etc.. (in fact I don’t like any B&O speaker with wooden slats but that’s me), I would keep with the BL5s.

The risk of the BL5s is that they are getting on a bit and posts seem to indicate more and more are failing/need service. This is down to your risk-aversion on unwanted repairs and part availability. I think the BL5s will be a better accompaniment to TV/film entertainment than the BL28s?

That’s my 2 cents….

[YannChris]

Hello Beoworlders,

I’m planning to change my current setup (Eclipse MkI + BL5) to Theater + BL 28 or BL 50.

Rear speakers are BL8000.

I mainly use my setup for TV and film watching. Music listening is secondary and, as you can imagine, my ear capabilities are decreasing along with my growing age 🙁

My heart goes to 50, my brain to 28.

But I wonder if BL50 would not be an overkilling choice.

What would be your choice, and why?

Regards,

Yann.

 

[Mbee]

Hi,

I’ve got an Eclipse MKI with a broken LG (C7) panel. B&O is asking 2600€ for a panel replacement (they keep the C7 TV and change the panel inside).

But when they were here, the B&O technicians said it would be possible to just exchange the 55C7 with a brand new 55C3 for less money (in fact, it’s 1000€ less!), but now they say it’s only on mkII Eclipse…

So is it possible or is there something preventing me from doing this?

Software-wise, the technicians said that the B&O app is available on the C3, so I should get the stand and Beoremote working, and all the settings for the beolabs… and if there is something locked to a C7 panel on the MKI, the difference of the panel may buy me an Eclipse MKII motherboard that should solve the problem…

Mechanically, either the old screen mount is still compatible with the screw positions of a C3, or I should order just this part from an Eclipse MKIII, or eventually I have to make a custom DIY screen mount.

Any advice or suggestion? Maybe somebody here already did such a conversion…

[Millemis]

The short answer is no!

It is dedicated to a built-in Netflix app on the tv.
The 1719 version was sold with the BV Eclipse:
Guide here:

Furthermore, with the 1719 you loose 3 of the otherweise 4 buttons on the more common 1717.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[OlivierC]

Hello,

 

YannChris is correct, the Stage would not allow to connect your existing speakers.

The Beosound Theatre + LG OLED tv is the way to go.
Another option might be a Beovision Eclipse, now discontinued.
Maybe you can get a good deal from an Eclipse still in inventory at your dealer.

Regards.

Olivier

[Mbee]

Hi,

I’ve just purchased a 2nd hand Beovision Eclipse MKI from 2017, from a very trustworthy couple who hasn’t turn it on since some months.

After I set up everything consciously (I’m used to B&O setups…) I can see the TV on my B&O app, but I can’t turn it on, it’s just a black screen emitting periodontal clicking noises from a relay switching on and off every 2 seconds approximately. Sometimes a 1-pixel line appears briefly on the panel where the sound scale should be, but that’s all. Any idea what did go wrong?

The B&O app sees it but I can’t do anything, neither listening to Deezer nor turning on a video source.

Any help ?

 

[Lely]

I am about to replace my Eclipse 1st gen with a Theatre. I’ve have noticed that B&O asks silly money for what is basically a LG G2, I can buy a LG G3 for way less. So thinking of buying just the sound bar with the TV table stand and buy the TV separate. Would I be able to mount the G3 on the table stand or am I missing something?

[Ingo]

“Without words. com”

Yesterday evening the same problem.
No connection from the TV to the Soundcenter.
BR1 without function except for volume, but without display.

It was also noticeable that the function LED was constantly white, which is usually only in line-in operation, so if I only listen to music via the Beosound 9000.

Then rebooted once again, then the BR1 had no connection to the Souncenter.
The batteries are full, even when I took the BR1 out of the case and then brought back together there was no change.
TV could only be turned on with the app and the Magic Control.

BR1 then decoupled from soundcenter, then reestablished the pairing.
Currently it runs again, until the next crash.

There will probably be another mega bug in the B&O app, my guess.
Is the G3 from LG at all compatible with the theatre?

I had separated from Eclipse, because of massive image errors on the panel.
The display would also still have been available.
That would be older panel, but a fully functional setup.

My satisfaction is so far within limits.

Many greetings

Ingo

 

[Bieele]

Hi,

The stand of my Beovision Eclipse does not work anymore. Service menu shows that 12V for stand is not working; shows close to 0Volt.
In an archived forum I found that I need to get a replacement DSSE board.
What I could not find:

– is this a possibly DIY job?

– what is te cost of this board or repair?

thanks for any info.

[SimonWeir]

I have a Theatre + LG G2 65” on motorised wall bracket (trading in for a G3 65” coming 30th May) with latest AppleTV 2022 unit (did have a 2017 device before when the Theatre first arrived last October and my comments the same) Vision works … I have the ATV going into the Theatre, so I can use the PUC.  I also have a Sky Q going into the Theatre, Dolby Vision works with PUC.

Bang Olufsen Manchester did need to change all my HDMI cables despite the cable stating HDMI 2.0 and worked when they installed on previous Eclipse but the Sky Q would not get 10 bit and the ATV did not offer 4:4:4, after a HDMI cable swap (again 2.0 from same manufacturer), now all working.

Additionally I have a Panasonic UB820 going into the TV in HDMI 4 and Vision works.

I suggest trying a different HDMI socket on the LG first, and 2nd try a new HDMI cable.  Also recommend everything going into the Theatre so you can use the BeoRemote One with PUC.

I cannot get the BeoRemote to use HDMI CEC for anything direct into the LG.  If you have a Theatre seems a shame to me in my opinion to have to use other remotes.

[Millemis]

My LG remote is in the original box, which is in the attic.

This is the method I am looking for – from the Support site for the Eclipse:

I do not find this in the List (of the BROne), when used with the Theatre.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Sandyb]

It would be interesting to know if that Picture Mute option was available with the Eclipse / Harmony? (I never owned either myself).

I guess the point being, if that option wasnt there for those LG based BV’s, then I suspect its unlikely that it gets introduced on the Theatre.

 

[Seebergdk]

Dear members

I recently got my hands on a 55″ Avant MK1. This was a well calculated downgrade from my previous Eclipse 55 MK1. The picture on the Eclipse was too bright for my taste and in some instances too “perfect”. I got a very good swap deal at my local dealer where I actually got £1.000 in exchange for the Elipse. The Avant was delivered with new video engine aswell as brand new MK1 panel! Pretty good deal I would say.

I never experienced the Avant before now and at the time of release I was bashing B&O for not including HDR. Today I am very happy that they did not as I really enjoy the not overly bright whites – especially on the subtitles. Also this is – in my opinion – the very last proper B&O television. With all the bells and whistles. I really never felt the magic with the Eclipse.

Well now on to the Avant. I love the image quality. Just perfect for my taste! One small downside is the edge lid panel. I have a few questions for those of you who has or have had an Avant.

• What settings did you use for film viewing? (did you make any adjustments in the service menu?)
• I can see the dynamic contrast kicking in – especially in dark scenes. Is there some way of making this less agressive or turn it completely off?

Any advice is most welcome!

Best regards,

Frederik

[YannChris]

Thanks Stan,

What you describe is what I experience with my Eclipse, mine is also on it’s second screen.

So for the time being, Theater wins.

Kind regards,

Yann.

 

 

 

Location: Brittany, France

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[Stan]

I’m hoping to squeeze a few (perhaps many?) more years out of my 1st gen 65′ Eclipse.  It is on its 2nd screen… hoping this one lasts a bit longer.  Anyway, if I were to replace, I’d go with the Theater for the ability to swap the screen and the cheaper price tag.  If/when I finally dump my Eclipse, it’s going bother me that the soundbar will most likely still be quite viable, but it was let down by the panel.  Then again, I’m biased because the Theater is pretty much exactly what I was hoping for from B&O all along, but I did not feel like waiting 5 years for something that may never materialize.

[NQVHNWI]

Until my Theatre purchase (with the LG G2 65 panel) ,I had a Mk1 Eclipse 65. The Eclipse was to me a nice looking TV but as you point-out, a Dog with respect to panel burn-in and replacement.

I do not like the design of the Harmony. Full Stop.

I think the Theatre is technologically quite a bit a head of the Harmony and I think it offers better value too. Im not sure about Screen replacement on the Harmony (I mean future upgrades and different makes which have the app rather than like for like).

I voted with my wallet. Theatre all the way.

[YannChris]

Hello Beoworlders,

About to change my 1st gen 55″ Eclipse, I’m facing a dilemma: 65″ Theater or 65″ Harmony?

Theater Pros: New technology, price tag, easy screen-swap.

Theater cons: Average design, floor stand VERY expensive.

Harmony Pros: Pure B&O design and beautiful movement of the speakers.

Harmony cons: A bit dated, screen swap may be difficult in the future, short EOL delay as B&O appears to drop fully integrated video products.

Brain votes Theater but Heart prefers Harmony.

My main concern is about screen-swap, as 1st gen Eclipse owners may imagine.

The second one, if heart wins, is Harmony EOL in a short term?

What would you do? Feel free to expose the reasons of your choice.

Thanks by advance,

Yann.