[moxxey]

Anyone heard anything new regarding the so-called ‘Stage NG’ which my dealer talked about back in January 2020! He was confident it was in development and was due later that year (obviously we all know what then happened after January 2020).

It makes so much sense for me. It could be a cut-down version of the Eclipse sound center, allowing someone with an LG wall-mounted panel, like me, to upgrade their Stage and buy a couple of external speakers!

Don’t get me wrong, the Stage is fantastic, but it still doesn’t match my old BV12-65 + BL3s + BL11 setup.

I’m assuming it got canned internally, maybe with an exec proposing it would affect sales of Eclipse, Horizon etc?

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[jvezina]

The virtual keyboard to allow to fill up text in search fields in the Eclipse and Harmony (and possibly the Stage) is still not implemented.

As a workaround, the LG ThinQ app provides this functionality (the older LG TV Plus app also). For the Eclipse Mk 1, just join it as it was a regular LG TV. However, just the part that is common to LG screens can be accessed. The B&O app must be used for the rest.

Since B&O now use stock LG screens, I think the LG ThinQ app is the way to type text now if you don’t want to fill character by character with the Beoremote 1.

 

[jvezina]

Congratulations!

I am hoping that your Eclipse will give you years of good service!

Regards,

Jean

 

[Seanie]

Hi all

Now we know the eclipse MK3 with LG G2 panel is out any thoughts on it?

new sound centre with new cut out and Lg G2 panel.

Has anyone seen it?

 

[Hiort]

Millemissen wrote:

That does indeed look supreme – congrats 👍 MM

Thanks 😊
It was a fun project.

[Hiort]

I have now finished my “Eclipse -55 1st Gen” project.

Firmware is now up to date. Missing panels from the back of the TV and Soundcenter has been purchased from B&O. Speaker cover received from a B&O friend.

Since the set is a prototype it has only quite crude aluminium (not anodised) back of the Soundcenter. It was very expensive to buy replacements so I don’t think its worth it, especially considering how the TV is placed.

A desk stand has been manufactured at a local mechanics shop based on my drawings, using the bracket that was attached to the TV:

After that I did some polishing and painting and attached the “counter weights” with superglue:

  

TV installed:

Will add a cable sock when we have settled on the connections 🙂

[Hiort]

jvezina wrote:

I am responding here since it seems that the personal message facility has a bug since the sent/received messages show empty. The corrected measurements for the STB Brackets table stand are on this picture. I was not able to measure the height of the support of the bracket as it is hidden inside the Sound Center (more exactly behind the covers) when it is mounted. The bottom of the Sound Center and the top of the base are separated by a gap of about 0,5 mm. So they are not touching together, allowing a manual rotation of the TV to access the back panels. Regards, Jean

Thanks Jean,

I got that in your original message. I have now talked with a local mechanics shop and discussed drawings. They will be do something that hopefully will work.

I have now picked up the loose back panels that where all missing I have ordered from B&O, so the back of the TV look really tidy. There where also missing a number of rubber bushings on the soundcenter where the speaker front attach.

Will post picture when all is complete.

The aluminium back panels on the sound centre are not anodised, and buying those as spares was too expensive and would be a hazel to change so I skip that. The way the TV will be placed they will not be so visible anyway.

[Guy]

jvezina wrote:

I am responding here since it seems that the personal message facility has a bug since the sent/received messages show empty.

Slight thread hijack but I have just sent you a test message to see if PMs are working!

[Dyssegaard]

jvezina wrote:

I remember there was a modification made to the first generation Eclipse to address the limited bandwidth problem in the HDMI sockets. A new DSS board was manufactured and was available for replacement for the early sets.

The board replacement was done for free under warranty.

I got my own Eclipse in 2019 and the problem was fixed at the time.

Jean

Thanks for the info.

It is really good to know.

Best Regards
Dyssegaard

[jvezina]

I remember  there was a modification made to the first generation Eclipse to address the limited bandwidth problem in the HDMI sockets. A new DSS board was manufactured and was available for replacement for the early sets.

The board replacement was done for free under warranty.

I got my own Eclipse in 2019 and the problem was fixed at the time.

Jean

[Dyssegaard]

Hiort wrote:

I set ATV to Dolby Vision/60.

played a video on the YouTube app that was supposed to be DV 60.

This is what the stats liked like:

Does is makes sense?

Thanks again for checking.

And yes – it does make sense.

I don’t think that it was displayed in DV or HDR. If you look at the Codecs line it should have been 9.2.

I played a DV-video in the webos youtube app and the panel on the TV shifted to HDR-mode.

Maybe it will work if you force the ATV to HDR/60.

For youtube videos I will be using the webos app in the tv in the future since it can display HDR/60 videos.

The problem is with apps like Disney+ and ATV+ since they are not available on Eclipse 1st gen. They are available on the normal LG C7. I have been in contact with B&O about the missing apps. They are aware, but suggest to buy an ATV and use the apps there ..

Best Regards
Dyssegaard

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[Dyssegaard]

Hiort wrote:

Did a quick check with the latest AppleTV 4K connected to the Soundcenter (HDMI D) and had it configured as per the instructions (4K SDR, Match content On).

When I play a movie from Netflix that is Dolby Vision, the panel signal that it is indeed Dolby Vision being played.

Thanks for checking.
With my 2017 ATV4K connected to HDMI A in the Sound Center the screen also report Dolby Vision, when playing movie from ATV+.
However the latest ATV4K should be able to decode Dolby Vision at 60 fps – something the 2017 cannot.
The YouTube app on the new ATV4K should also be able to play HDR at 60 fps if you force it to HDR – match function does not yet work on YouTube. In the YouTube app you can see the actual frame rate if you turn on statistics.
Maybe there will be a difference in frame rate between Sound Center input and input directly to the screen.

Best Regards
Dyssegaard

[Hiort]

Interesting.

Thanks for sharing. I was not aware of this. I recently got my hands on a 1stgen Eclipse.

Its says in the guide that you should use the HDMIs in the TV it self rather than the ones in the Soundcenter if you want to benefit from Dolby Vision. I will do some tests and report back, since I have the latest ATV available.

However, if you use the HDMIs in the TV it self I do not think you can use the PUC cable, hence you need to use the AppleTV remote.

[Dyssegaard]

I have found this document in the old forum:
Eclipse and HDR
It states that HDMI bandwidth of the Eclipse Sound Center 1st Gen is limited to 12 Gbps.

Does this only apply to the first versions of Eclipse 1st Gen?

Mine was delivered in Jan 2020 and the BeoTool states that it is hw version V200.

My reason for asking is that I would like to know if I would benefit from upgrading my 2017 ATV4K to the latest version that has Dolby Vision at 60 fps. This will require more than 12 Gbps.

[moxxey]

I don’t think there are any ‘bad’ experiences. It’s just a speaker connected to a TV. What could possibly go wrong?

I have that setup, although a 77″ G1. Works fine. Sound is decent. I’m just surprised and a bit disappointed the NG Stage never appeared. My dealer told me about it all the way back in January 2020: that a more expensive Stage was on its way, which was more like an Eclipse sound center and that it would allow the connection of other B&O speakers, which makes so much sense.

Never appeared and that’s over two years ago. I guess someone at B&O thought it might render the Eclipse irrelevant/expensive, so put it on hold.

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[Isthatthebeotime]

Emily in Paris TV Series

BeoVision Eclipse on floor stand on a console table

[Isthatthebeotime]

Just watching that movie now (Moonfall) noticed a few bits in it

BeoVision Eclipse

BeoCom 5 rings (wrong ringtone)

He then talks with the handset the wrong way round

[Isthatthebeotime]

Just watching Moonfall now noticed a few bits in it, a BeoVision Eclipse and then a BeoCom 5 rings (wrong ringtone) he then holds the handset to his ear and has a conversation with it the wrong way round. Tried to post pics but kept getting a error message

[Hiort]

The set I acquired is in reasonable cosmetic condition, but need some love.

It has been a test set provided to a company, so it has not been treated so well. It has no stand but is mounted on a wooden plate with some sort of bracket. Its 1st Gen so it has the custom mounted C7 panel. Screen is undamaged and the Soundcenter sounds very good.

Questions:

• Is it possible to get the back aluminium panels of the Soundcenter as spares?
• Same with the “end caps” that you remove when you use B&O wall mount. Can they be sourced as spares?
• Has anyone experience from the STBBracket table stand?

 

[Csaba]

I don’t have a full overview of the B&O portfolio dating back decades so I am going to assume we are mainly discussing the current line-up and products from 1 or 2 generations ago. For me any B&O TV is crazy expensive when comparing to regular TVs but of course I do understand the craftsmanship going into them and that they are not just a TV but also speakers. A Contour is much more appealing to me than a Harmony or Eclipse but I don’t watch TV these days so I don’t care about them.

On the speaker front it is also a bit relative. Within the current line-up I think the Emerge should deliver more punch for the price. For the price, even the black one should have more performance. It is easy to overlook this colour option when the oak version is even more expensive. Comparing to the sound of the Beolit 20 it is way less powerful and I am not sure the design is so much worth a price tag that is 1.5/almost 2 times that of the Beolit 20. I do like the oak one though.

Looking at the Beosound A1 Dune edition, I seriously cannot appreciate it the way 100 people find it justified, when I feel like some of the standard options for much less are actually prettier and more balanced in their overall looks.

Personally for me it was more worth it to spend more on a Balance Bespoke, so that supports the idea of the conversation being based on personal preference.

I’m also going to compare the current Beosound 2 to itself. It is definitely less value for the money today compared to last year.

Then we’re into price increase territory…

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