I’ve just purchased a 2nd hand Beovision Eclipse MKI from 2017, from a very trustworthy couple who hasn’t turn it on since some months.
After I set up everything consciously (I’m used to B&O setups…) I can see the TV on my B&O app, but I can’t turn it on, it’s just a black screen emitting periodontal clicking noises from a relay switching on and off every 2 seconds approximately. Sometimes a 1-pixel line appears briefly on the panel where the sound scale should be, but that’s all. Any idea what did go wrong?
The B&O app sees it but I can’t do anything, neither listening to Deezer nor turning on a video source.
I am about to replace my Eclipse 1st gen with a Theatre. I’ve have noticed that B&O asks silly money for what is basically a LG G2, I can buy a LG G3 for way less. So thinking of buying just the sound bar with the TV table stand and buy the TV separate. Would I be able to mount the G3 on the table stand or am I missing something?
Yesterday evening the same problem.
No connection from the TV to the Soundcenter.
BR1 without function except for volume, but without display.
It was also noticeable that the function LED was constantly white, which is usually only in line-in operation, so if I only listen to music via the Beosound 9000.
Then rebooted once again, then the BR1 had no connection to the Souncenter.
The batteries are full, even when I took the BR1 out of the case and then brought back together there was no change.
TV could only be turned on with the app and the Magic Control.
BR1 then decoupled from soundcenter, then reestablished the pairing.
Currently it runs again, until the next crash.
There will probably be another mega bug in the B&O app, my guess.
Is the G3 from LG at all compatible with the theatre?
I had separated from Eclipse, because of massive image errors on the panel.
The display would also still have been available.
That would be older panel, but a fully functional setup.
The stand of my Beovision Eclipse does not work anymore. Service menu shows that 12V for stand is not working; shows close to 0Volt.
In an archived forum I found that I need to get a replacement DSSE board.
What I could not find:
I have a Theatre + LG G2 65” on motorised wall bracket (trading in for a G3 65” coming 30th May) with latest AppleTV 2022 unit (did have a 2017 device before when the Theatre first arrived last October and my comments the same) Vision works … I have the ATV going into the Theatre, so I can use the PUC. I also have a Sky Q going into the Theatre, Dolby Vision works with PUC.
Bang Olufsen Manchester did need to change all my HDMI cables despite the cable stating HDMI 2.0 and worked when they installed on previous Eclipse but the Sky Q would not get 10 bit and the ATV did not offer 4:4:4, after a HDMI cable swap (again 2.0 from same manufacturer), now all working.
Additionally I have a Panasonic UB820 going into the TV in HDMI 4 and Vision works.
I suggest trying a different HDMI socket on the LG first, and 2nd try a new HDMI cable. Also recommend everything going into the Theatre so you can use the BeoRemote One with PUC.
I cannot get the BeoRemote to use HDMI CEC for anything direct into the LG. If you have a Theatre seems a shame to me in my opinion to have to use other remotes.
I recently got my hands on a 55″ Avant MK1. This was a well calculated downgrade from my previous Eclipse 55 MK1. The picture on the Eclipse was too bright for my taste and in some instances too “perfect”. I got a very good swap deal at my local dealer where I actually got £1.000 in exchange for the Elipse. The Avant was delivered with new video engine aswell as brand new MK1 panel! Pretty good deal I would say.
I never experienced the Avant before now and at the time of release I was bashing B&O for not including HDR. Today I am very happy that they did not as I really enjoy the not overly bright whites – especially on the subtitles. Also this is – in my opinion – the very last proper B&O television. With all the bells and whistles. I really never felt the magic with the Eclipse.
Well now on to the Avant. I love the image quality. Just perfect for my taste! One small downside is the edge lid panel. I have a few questions for those of you who has or have had an Avant.
What settings did you use for film viewing? (did you make any adjustments in the service menu?)
I can see the dynamic contrast kicking in – especially in dark scenes. Is there some way of making this less agressive or turn it completely off?
I’m hoping to squeeze a few (perhaps many?) more years out of my 1st gen 65′ Eclipse. It is on its 2nd screen… hoping this one lasts a bit longer. Anyway, if I were to replace, I’d go with the Theater for the ability to swap the screen and the cheaper price tag. If/when I finally dump my Eclipse, it’s going bother me that the soundbar will most likely still be quite viable, but it was let down by the panel. Then again, I’m biased because the Theater is pretty much exactly what I was hoping for from B&O all along, but I did not feel like waiting 5 years for something that may never materialize.
Until my Theatre purchase (with the LG G2 65 panel) ,I had a Mk1 Eclipse 65. The Eclipse was to me a nice looking TV but as you point-out, a Dog with respect to panel burn-in and replacement.
I do not like the design of the Harmony. Full Stop.
I think the Theatre is technologically quite a bit a head of the Harmony and I think it offers better value too. Im not sure about Screen replacement on the Harmony (I mean future upgrades and different makes which have the app rather than like for like).
I have a loft box with FM, DAB, TV and Satellite feeds combined and fed to a wall plate with FM, TV and Sat connectors. I the feed the TV and Sat signals to an Eclipse, no problem. I would like to feed the FM to a Beomaster 7000 and the DAB to a OneRemote, if I try and use the FM outlet I get no DAB signal, if I split the TV signal I get about a third of the available stations.
The wallplate is quite old so I replaced it with one with a DAB/FM Connector. Without a splitter both work well. If I add in a splitter to try and split the DAB and FM signals I get the following:
With only the FM cable connected it works fine,
if I add the DAB cable I lose some of the FM stations but get all the DAB.
I cannot seem to find a true quad wall plate, they all seem to need a second cable. So do I need a different type of splitter or am I trying to do something that cannot be done?
I have given this posting a degree of thought but have to admit a degree of ignorance to the working behind the scenes and the relationships with Sponsors, suppliers and B&O themselves. I’m also ignorant to the costs of a web-forum, hosting and development costs.
Shooting from the hip, here is my view-point: –
The current forum is stale, has a limited number of niche Users and a very unappealing interface. There are too many sub-forums based on legacy site designs. Consolidate and simplify would be my first thought?
There is or has been too much “control” or moderation on-site, based on keeping things civil – whereas in the other forums I regularly visit and participate in don’t seem to have that problem. There is too much onus on forum members “protecting” B&O operating revenues with keeping B&O secrecy. As far as I can determine, product releases are released unofficially either by Dealers/re-sellers, those with ties to B&O or B&O themselves. We are too quick to stifle “finds” on the Web, for the sake of upsetting B&O – when it is in fact it is in all in the public domain. Therefore a light hand or an even-lighter hand (let it rip) would be welcome. Stiffen-up buttercup.
I perceive B&O doing very little to help this forum? My view is that Beoworld has long-served its purpose for B&O who I believe want to focus on HNWI’s rather than those of us who may tend towards the more to vintage and David-Lewis legacy era equipment. There may be a few “visits” or “previews” here and there given by B&O to some of the more enthusiastic members/moderators/Sponsors – either directly or indirectly but little that actually helps the site? Therefore like the so-called “Special relationship” between UK and US politicians, its not really Special and arguably not a relationship either? BeoWorld needs to decide where its position is?
Manuals. Most legacy manuals are already out in the public domain (up to the Beolab5/7/9 era – I have not for instance seen the BL90 or Eclipse/Harmony manual out there??). I think/assume there is very little out there (B&O probably want more control of this now than premature product leaks?). I do not see this as a USP for paid membership tiers.
Circle-back to point 1 again. I participate in a number of forums (B&O/Auralic/some watch forums/Wood-working and motorcar forums – where my hobbies/interest lie). I am also drifting more towards Mikipedias Discord B&O site (more on that in the next point). https://community.auralic.com/ and https://community.naimaudio.com/ are examples of Company-provided but not Company-controlled/dominated web forums. They are relatively fresh, clean and easy to search/reference. There is a very “light-touch” in terms of moderation and in-particular, the Auralic forum is very well behaved and sparsely populated with interactive Auralic employees.
I assume there are costs to these sites like Auralic and Naim (there is very little advertising on these sites – if any) and either has a modest support by the OEM or use your data for a “free” web-site access. I would state here that web-forums today are so well-developed and extensive, that the prospect of preventing “you are the product” is well-past its sell-by date. Every data-miner in the world probably has multiple layers of intel on us all and out habits. With the advent of ChatGPT and other advanced algorithms, it is only a matter of time that these programs scan the entire interweb over multiple, separate and un-related forums and could therefore work-out our various aliases, interests, political leanings etc…etc…and know who we are. Therefore, I would dismiss “we are the product” argument as a constraint. Its going to happen one way or another.
Discord is developing more and more as the future of chat forums. Mikipedia has develop his own excellent site (too many sub-forums for my taste, somewhat harder to reference info etc but quite dynamic and seems to have a much higher frequency of well-mannered regulars contributing than Beoworld). I don’t know how Mikipedia supports this Discord site (free, small annual fee, data-gathering) but he does, alone and it works very well. There is also a perception that his site leans more towards the “later-day” products and gossip rather than older legacy products. Either-way, he’s not charging £0/£15/£30 per annum membership fees for a growing and improving product over BeoWorld?
Now I am fully aware that B&O is still a stuffy and undynamic and Conservative company. B&O have failed twice as far as I can recollect in its own Web-forum aspirations. I’m also aware they are now more interested in HNWI’s – now that us “Useful-Saps” have bailed them out (again) by buying countless discounted BeoPlay products that they can now once again neglect us (in a recession) and focus on the folly of chasing the dream of too-many-high-end-high-price products with a 30-minute shelf-life for the uninterested uber-rich and destroy their loyal buyer base (again)?? However, I do wonder if – there is a possibility for one-off support for BeoWorld by B&O to setup a new modern web-forum for BeoWorld to manage and tune to both B&O’s future pathway and BeoWorlds legacy stance? Im sure it’s a well trodden asking B&O path but I’m only asking?
As per my earlier points, I’m against paid and tiered membership. Its not because of personal snobbery or affordability on my part but that (again my perception), is that this leads to a “tribal” take-over of the forum and ends up losing more regular contributors than it gains. I see Beoworld right now in this position and its withering-away.
As a means to funding the site – I wonder – as a suggestion if it is possible/feasible for Beoworld to have an online shop? A shop that at one end can sell BeoWorld merch, but at the other (hopefully sponsored by B&O), selling a few BeoPlay-level products, with margins helping to support forum costs? This may not help the Dealers but not wont help BeoWorld and with Amazon, both stand to lose-out if you don’t?
The prize-draw is nice but not essential. I viewed this as a way to generate membership fees with a draw-down of Lee’s stock (and business profitability) as a generous benefactor? I think streamlining the Web-forum this is not required – and to be frank, very few Web-forums offer anything like this (Fees or prizes). I think it is an unsustainable practice in numerous ways.
Anyway, this list is given as useful/not-useful feedback as an honest opinion that hopefully helps give the Owners of BeoWorld my perspective at least. Make of it what you will for what it is worth?
leider spinnt das Internet bei meinem Beovision Eclipse 65. Wenn ich ihn starte funktioniert die Netflix App auf Anhieb, aber leider nur diese. Alle anderen Apps und auch der LG Content Store melden, dass sie nicht verbunden sind. Nach eine Weile (5-15 Minuten) funktioniert alles, bis zum Nächsten Neustart. Ich habe den Fernseher per LAN verbunden und hier steht auch sofort beim Start, dass der Beovision verbunden ist.
Vielleicht kann mir hier jemand helfen, das ist echt nervig, da ich mehr Mediatheken und Online schaue als reines TV.
This morning when I tried to play an audio source on my Eclipse via the BLC NL/ML Converter to a Masterlink products nothing happened. When I checked all of the sources visible on ML had disappeared. Luckily I had saved a picture of the settings so it wasn’t difficult to reinstate. Anyone know what happened? Paul
My BV7 died on me. Not yet ready to go for a Harmony or Eclipse. So, I am looking into non-B&O televisions.
Is there any benefit going with an LG to connect my Beolabs? I read Sony allows to use the TV as center? Could I also somehow use my BLs as L/R and Sub?
I care most about a slim TV as I’d like to wallmount it. Any suggestions?
The LG C2 and the Sony 75×90 have drawn my attention.
I operate my BS 9000 integrated in the ML – NL network via BLC. I can join its music / sources on my Emerge, BS 2, Essence or BV Eclipse. It is working flawlessly and for the first two units it is working wirelessly. And it’s such a beautiful sight to see – I am never getting tired of its look on the wall and the smooth operation of its functions.
