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the primary objective is to feed the audio from the Beosystem 65000 were the Beogram 6500 to the rest of the house which has my biggest interest, so don’t care about the Radio, CD or the cassette (well tape could be fun if it would be easy and without any conflict of commands being re-used) />

I think that A.TAPE is not a command that also exists under another name, so should be easily possible. Bonus!

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bnousr, Carolpa, out of curiosity, I put my BM6500 in option 1 and connected a speaker to it. The system, connected to 1611/BLC/A.SLAVE works as normal.

In another room (that uses my main ML chain) I could listen to, and control the BG CD 7000.

Also, when starting the BG CD 7000 (from stdby) from the other room, the speaker connected to the BM6500 stays muted.

This seems exactly what bnousr looks for. And to be honest, I would find it quite elegant to let the BM6500 amps drive the passive CX and Cona speakers (and not introduce another amp and leave the BM running idle).

Again, the above is not allowing the BM6500 play any other sources than its own.

As maybe said before, I think it’s really great that B&O allows to use all these generations of devices together. When it is all set-up (which takes a bit of fiddling) it can work really well.

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Hi Tony, when they are metal enclosures (like BeoLab 7), you could consider sandblasting/powdercoating. Check this thread with some photographs: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beolab-10-paint-melting/

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Hi stotty, I used 3M 4910F, VHB™ Clear Foam Tape, 6mm x 33m, (about 1mm) Thick that you could consider to use. It has good bonding indeed, but feels a bit less permanent than glues. I used it on a BeoMaster 4500. In the old forums there are some more threads on this: https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/43948/319119.aspx#319119. Be careful with the thickness
I used methylated spirit that dissolved the original tape but left the paint on.
Best of luck. Johan

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OK, all clear! Was just thinking – bnousr just wants to push BeoGram 6500 audio onto NL, for the main ML system to use it. Couldn’t the speakers stay connected to the BM6500?

I agree that with your solution (an ML amp connected to the main ML chain driving the CXs and the Cona) allows listening to all sources (no need for the 3500 anymore).

Regards, groet, Johan

 

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Hi Carolpa! was hoping you would join :-). I was not saying one BLC would be enough, just that in principle you could use a BLC as an ML splitter (in the same ML chain) when required. Indeed the IR commands logic would be gordian knot needing a bit of untieing! Regards, Johan

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Hi, yes, just different form factor. So I reckon you can use the BLC as an ‘ML splitter’ if you need to.

Even with using the BS6500 with speakers, I still think that with two audio slave BLCs you can get everything working, if you find enough suitable IR commands. And I am actually quite curious, as I am slowly but seriously planning to add a BeoSound9000 to the mix!

 

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Do you have speakers connected to the BS6500? If not, my current thought would be to set both BLCs in A.SLAVE mode, as they are only sources. Set the one connected to the BS6500 to map the desired experiences onto NL. In the other BLC, the one in the main MasterLink network, assign those to a logical command (avoiding the earlier mentioned conflicts, which is a bit the ‘pain’ with MasterLink).

 

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Nice set-up and diagram! What sources of the BeoSystem 6500 do you want to distribute?

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hi bnousr, my BeoMaster 6500 (with only a CD7000 plugged in, no speakers) is set to A.OPTION 0, so that it does not react to Beo4 IR signals. My BLC is set to A.SLAVE as well, and it is configured to only pass CD audio onto NL (experience mapped to NL).

My second BLC is an A.MASTER to pass on audio from the Core (and the other BLC).

The IR command PHONO is the same as N.RADIO, and ATAPE2 is N.MUSIC . So you need to figure out what command activates what source connected to your BM6500.

Do you have the “BeoLink Converter NL/ML Type 1790 Installation Guide”? Maybe that can help setting up your BLCs up optimally. Let me know and I can dm you a copy. Let us know how you get along, I can help with some screenshots of BLC settings if you want.

Johan

 

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Hi Josh, and welcome to Beoworld.

Check this page: https://beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=804. For connections you best contact Steve (site sponsor). The weight of the speaker should be about 10kg. The TV itself another 30kg (from beo.zone). Nice to see you appreciate this older but iconic TV set!

Let us know the result, regards, Johan

 

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Hi again,

My connection grid is indeed a bit different:

I use the LG really as the video hub (4K). I use it’s internal tuner for TV content, as well as an Apple TV 4K that is HDMI connected to the LG. The BS3 is also connected to the LG with HDMI, to display the BS3 menu (depending on the type of BS3 you have, this could be a DVI to HDMI cable too).

The sound of the LG is coming from its optical out port, then using a optical to coax converter, is fed into an S/PDIF digital input of the BS3. This allows 5.1 Dolby surround sound to be played over the connected speakers of the BS3. If you have a 7.1 speaker set-up, you will need an HDMI ARC extractor and feed sound into one of the BS3’s HDMI inputs. (plus maybe some help from a third BeoWorld member with that experience).

 

Is there an IR receiver in the BV4 panel? If so, you will need a separate IR eye connected to the BS3 to receive IR signals from your Bang and Olufsen remote control.

I am confident you can get everything working with the right cables, settings and patience. The remotes that come with the BS3 and the Sony will make it directly operational. But if you want to control everything from your B&O remote, some more efforts need to be taken as Stoobie says. Like programming the Beo5, using PUCs (and IR PUC cables) et cetera.

Johan

 

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Hi graham60, hi Stoobie, I also use a BS3 with an (LG) oled tv screen. No Beo5 however. Happy to help when needed! Will follow your discussion and support where possible! Johan

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I am not actually using the phono input of the BM6500, I think it would just activate when the BM would have been connected directly to the main MasterLink network, when pressing N.RADIO on a remote somewhere. Same for the RADIO command – I assigned that to B&O radio on the Core and don’t want the BM6500 to start playing radio. With one BLC, my problem would be two sources to be activated at the same time.

I once read that Beojeff (USA) used 9 (nine!) BLCs 🙂

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Hi Madskp, thanks! The symbols come from all kind of pdf manuals etc. (Maybe it would be nice to make a decent/scaled properly Powerpoint/Keynote template with all B&O devices?)

I use the second BLC to separate the PHONO input of the BM6500 from the N.RADIO source of the Core (same Beo4 command). So the BLC is actually a filter for the CD command. Would you believe that it could be done without? I really want to keep remote commands logical for my dear family members and use RADIO for N.RADIO also. I agree, pretty elaborate, but it works well.

Will change my diagram to Audio Aux Link 🙂

Regards, Johan

 

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Congratulations Leosgonewild! I will keep on dreaming a little more…

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Hi Kirin, well spotted haha. The LG gets the 4K input from the Apple TV directly. I only use the BS3 as an audio hub. The optical digital output of the LG is converted to co-axial and then fed into the BS3. I think this only gives max 5.1 (which is ok for me as you can see on the overview).

Maybe check this thread too: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/earc-and-beosystem-3/

Regards, Johan

 

 

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Great to see that you got it working again. Thanks for reporting back, and even more for becoming a Silver member! Much appreciated.

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Today I finally replaced some unused coax wires with Cat7 cables and re-added my BeoMaster 6500 / BeoGram CD 7000 combo to my set-up. They are in the attic (study) and connected through a 1611 to go from MCL to ML, and a BLC to go from ML to NL. 

I made a little overview of the whole network :-).

Next trial will be to connect the BL4000s directly to the Core. Until now I kept them in the larger ML network to avoid sync issues, but if they sound better without the Active and BLC in the chain, I will see to fix any delay issues and get an IR eye connected to the Core for Beo4 control in the kitchen. Regards, Johan

 

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Hi Jakes, these are available under ‘Main Web Site’, then when you go to ‘Products’ you can find a link to hundreds of manuals and service manuals. But you need to be a Silver or, better, Gold member first to access them.

Hope you can find the issue. They are wonderful speakers

Regards, Johan

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