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  • #16457
    graham60
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      Just been looking at the Sony A95K Bravia 55″TV as a replacement for my BV4 50″ .

      My only problem is how do I connect it to the Beosystem3 and use it as a screen replacement for the BV4

      If it’s possible to use it as a screen then I assume my Beo5 would operate everything as normal but with my minimal knowledge when it comes to technical stuff I’m not sure about connections or cable/leads

       

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      Stoobie
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        It is possible Graham. I have a LG OLED with mine.

        I can try to help explain the connections I have. I think your biggest problem might be the Beo5 control. Especially if the TV does not default to the correct input.

        I’ll do a more detailed response this evening.

        Stoobie

         

        #16465
        Tignum
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          Hi graham60, hi Stoobie, I also use a BS3 with an (LG) oled tv screen. No Beo5 however. Happy to help when needed! Will follow your discussion and support where possible! Johan

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          Stoobie
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            My BS3 was bought with my LG OLED in mind as I’m heavily Masterlink reliant. I moved from a Beovision 5. I did look at a new B&O TV but would have to move to the new system using NL/ML converter and they wanted almost £1000 for the converter alone.

            Connected to my BS3 is a B&O DVD-2, Amazon Fire-TV, and a Humax HDR-2000T, 2 Beolab 3s and 2 Beolab 12-3s.

            The BS3 is connected to the LG via the DVI out. For sound, the LG is connected to the BS3 by a cable from the headphone socket to a scart converter. The DVD-2 is connected via scart and HDMI to the BS3 (scart required for control). The Fire-TV is connected via HDMI (and has a FLIRC USB receiver programmed to receive Apple codes as that was in my PUC list). Most apps on the Fire-TV are replucted on TV. I use it mostly for non 4K media. The Humax is connected via scart to the BS3 and HDMI to the LG and controlled by the PUC (connected by scart to allow me to use the DVD-2 to record from it and make DVDs for friends overseas). I also have a Lintronic IR converter. More about that later. When I watch the TV, I watch the LG via its own tuner, with sound through the BS3.

            When I first set up the TV I experimented with my Beo5 controlling the TV. I used the configuration tool and a Philips Pronto learning remote to get the LG codes on to the remote. It worked quite well but we had to take the whole system down to re-model the living room.

            I have set it all up again and am experimenting with the Beo5 and/or the Lintronic box and Beo4.

            Unfortunately for you, I don’t think it is as simple as swapping out the screen and still use your Beo5 as before, unless you are happy for the new TV to be a screen that just shows the HD picture as opposed to what it is capable of. Also, I’m not sure if the TV will default to the correct input every time.

            I’m experimenting with the Lintronic because I’m happy with it and my Beo4, but will set up the “foolproof” Beo5 for my partner.

            Between Tignum and me, we can probably get your BS3 and screen working at 4K but I think your Beo5 will need to be re-programmed. I can help with that, but it is a steep learning curve and there will be a lot of trial and error. And as I’ve said before, unless you can get your original Beo5 XML file, you will need to start from scratch.
            It will assist to say what you have connected currently.

            Stoobie

             

             

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            Tignum
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              Hi again,

              My connection grid is indeed a bit different:

              I use the LG really as the video hub (4K). I use it’s internal tuner for TV content, as well as an Apple TV 4K that is HDMI connected to the LG. The BS3 is also connected to the LG with HDMI, to display the BS3 menu (depending on the type of BS3 you have, this could be a DVI to HDMI cable too).

              The sound of the LG is coming from its optical out port, then using a optical to coax converter, is fed into an S/PDIF digital input of the BS3. This allows 5.1 Dolby surround sound to be played over the connected speakers of the BS3. If you have a 7.1 speaker set-up, you will need an HDMI ARC extractor and feed sound into one of the BS3’s HDMI inputs. (plus maybe some help from a third BeoWorld member with that experience).

              bs3 + oled

               

              Is there an IR receiver in the BV4 panel? If so, you will need a separate IR eye connected to the BS3 to receive IR signals from your Bang and Olufsen remote control.

              I am confident you can get everything working with the right cables, settings and patience. The remotes that come with the BS3 and the Sony will make it directly operational. But if you want to control everything from your B&O remote, some more efforts need to be taken as Stoobie says. Like programming the Beo5, using PUCs (and IR PUC cables) et cetera.

              Johan

               

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              #16501
              graham60
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                Hi.

                The Sony A95K uses the Samsung panel but the Sony is supposed to be the one to have, I spoke with a sales lad at Curry’s and he seemed to think that I could use the Sony as a screen (I assume as a direct replacement for the BV4) he also said any pictures sent from the Humax free sat that I use to watch TV programs would be upscaled to 4k !! as would picture content from the b&o DVD.

                I’m thinking of making a trip to the Sony Store where the staff should be more clued up on their products.

                I’ll try keep everyone updated with my progress

                #16503
                graham60
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                  Hi again

                  The sales lad at Curry’s seemed to think I could use the Sony as a screen, he also said anything sent to the screen would be upscaled and he said the TV speaker could be used as a centre speaker, apparently the screen vibrates and delivers the sound through the screen and at the correct place ( very impressive) I remember the company who were developing this technology some 20yrs ago.

                  Anyway I’m going to make a trip to the Sony showroom in Leeds to get (hopefully) some good advice.

                  I’ll keep you updated

                  #16505
                  Millemissen
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                    Just to give you an overview!

                    Basicly there are two ways of doing this:

                    1: Use the new tv as a ‘dumb screen’ and have all devices etc connected to the BSys3.
                    This means that you will have to rely on the upscaling possibilities of the new tv.
                    You will have to turn on the tv either with it’s own remote or find a way to have it turning on to a default input….and off.

                    2: Use the BSys3 as an audio processor (use the coax digital in on the BSys3) and use the built in apps/the connected external devices of the tv for all viewing.
                    You will only get lossy DD sound this way.
                    You might have to use the Beo4 and the original tv remote.

                    As in the setups of Stoopie and Tignum there are some tweaks – however this is not easy and comes with trial and error…..’a steep learning curve’ as Stoopie wrote.

                    MM

                    #16507
                    graham60
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                      Any help would be much appreciated

                      #16508
                      graham60
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                        I’m going to talk with the Sony Store hopefully tomorrow and see what I can get from them regarding connections from and to the TV

                        I’ll try keep everyone updated on any progress

                        #17644
                        graham60
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                          I’ve got the guy who does all the installations from the Sony Centre in Leeds giving me a visit next Thursday, he’s going to look at my setup with the Beosystem3 regarding the replacement of my Beo 50″ for the Sony A95K 55″ so I’m hoping he may be able to fathom something out.

                          Does anyone have any tips for him to follow, I’ve told him that I have no idea when it comes to the technical stuff, also told him that I need to use the Beo5 where possible.

                          I’ll keep you all posted, Fingers crossed.

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                          Stoobie
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                            Hi Graham60,

                            The only suggestion I have at this stage is photograph the current connections on the front of the BS3 and the various connections in the connections menu on the screen. That way you can get back to status quo should anything get messed up.

                            Is your BS3 the DVI-D OUT version or the HDMI OUT version?

                            Take a look at the most recent post on the Beo5/6 forum. You should be able to get your original Beo5 XML file to start trying to re program your Beo5 for the new TV. Find a friendly dealer near you and take the Beo5 in to see if they would give you the XML file. If they do, come back and we can help you with updating it.

                            Stoobie

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                            graham60
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                              Thanks for that, good thinking, I’ve lost things before and for me it can be a nightmare getting it all back to normal !!

                              #17911
                              graham60
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                                Hi Stoobie

                                My BS3 is the DVI-D OUT version ?? The Sony installer called today and had a look at my setup he said the BS3 to TV cable will need an adapter to connect to the Sony TV, he was also looking at how to get the sound from the Sony TV to to the BS3 ? He is looking at coming back next week bringing with him a smaller 30” TV to to experiment with, he is also looking at doing some more research into connecting everything and getting it all working.

                                Any information to assist him would be appreciated.

                                I’ll keep you updated

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