[Madskp]

Menu 0 4 go is only a service mode that will open the input for sound. No controls can be used in this service mode, and all button presses will go to standby.

But if you wan’t to use it in an MCL setup you csn use Menu, 0, 9, go and switch ML to of with the up and down arrows on the remote.

If it because you want to use it as a stand alone speaker I suggest you take a look in this thread

https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/bl3500-and-the-mcl-pl-connector/

or this post

https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beolab-3500-and-1611-converter-settings/page/4/#post-14017

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[Madskp]

You csl slso try other Audio source buttons, which will probably activate the equipment, but you might not get sound because of the csble as mentioned before.

The A.aux command will only work if the Beolink passives installed has a certain software level as mentioned in one of the earlier posts, but in this setup it shoulden’t mean anything as the Beolink converter will respond to any audio or video commands

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[Madskp]

Try using a video source button on the BEO4 (TV, V.MEM/V.TAPE/DVD/SAT).

The 7 pin to dual RCA cable you hsve bought will probably go to the video source input of the Beolink converter as shown in the drawing in Guy’s first post in this thread.

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[Madskp]

yes it is interesting to see how he reacts to the controls which is almost second nature to those of us who have used B&O equipment for several years.

But I think it’s the same feeling I have when i get a remote from another brand and have to find out how to use that 🙂

A little funny that he thinks that the control interface has not got much attention when in fact B&O in that period had a team dedicated to controls of their products.

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[Madskp]

In an other thread I got reminded about the 1611 converters powerlink socket, and was still a little puzzled about the functionality of it. Matador had this input in an early post in this thread:

matador wrote:

From my readings in the forum, it allows to the linked device to know when you turn on or alter volume on a master unit like the BC2300, from its local controls, A.AUX.LINK not carrying volume or On/Off information. Therefore the Powerlink socket just has the data pins connected and no sound pins connected at all.

But since then I have got myself more B&O equipment, so I decided to do some testing to verify it.

BC9300 in opt. 0 connected vith datalink Aux cable to 1611 converter, and a Masterlink cable to BC6-26 in opt. 2.

I can fully control the BC9300 with remote via the BC6.

But If I try to start a source from the BC9300 It will only start locally and not play sound on the BC6 speakers.  If I turn on the BC6 as the BC9300 is playing the sound will come out of it, but it will not react to the BC9300 volume buttons. A press on standby on the BC9300 will however shut down both devices.

If I the add a PL cable from the BC9300 to the 1611 converter I am then able to active the BC6 when start a source locally on the BC9300. Also I am able to regulate the volume on the BV6 with the volume buttons on the BC9300.

My best guess about this functionlity is that the Powerlink pin 4 signal will tell the 1611 to forward local source commands and volume commands to the ML connected TV.

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[Madskp]

I don’t have the solution, but remembered this video https://youtu.be/9akBE5MdVi4?si=IjFQ7AeFQzj8BZeo

Hope it might be inspirational for this problem.

Disclamer. The video series is called trying to fix, and the concept is that he is just trying things he might think could solve the problems, and dont use a service manual

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[Madskp]

When doing the test mode after manually moving the laser arm to the bottom it will still end up in the shown postion when doing the test mode 5

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[Madskp]

Madskp wrote:

Guy wrote: I not sure whether it would help at all but have you tried running the ‘Test Mode’ for the CD, as mentioned on page 5-17 of the service manual? I haven’t tried that, but will do before I proceed to see if I can get anything out of that

I tried the test mode and one thing I noticed is when I try to move the laser arm to its extreme outside position i will end in the position shown on the below photo.

When I open the mechanism up I can move the laser arm way further down, by rotating the motor manually. So I guess something is hindering the movement.

Anyone has a hint to what that could be? nothing mechanically as far as I can find. The gears rotate freely all the way

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[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

I not sure whether it would help at all but have you tried running the ‘Test Mode’ for the CD, as mentioned on page 5-17 of the service manual?

I haven’t tried that, but will do before I proceed to see if I can get anything out of that

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[Madskp]

Thank you both for your inputs.

I will try to look into bad connections.

Searching on reflow I also found this thread that mentions that capacitors could be an issue

https://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/t/35325.aspx

So I might also have to look into that. Maybe the laser wasn’t defect after all

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[Madskp]

Just for good measure I diasseabled the CD mechanism once more and tried the deep celaning again, but with the same result.

The I ordered a new laser unit from Beoparts and now have that installed.

No the CD starts spinnning and the display shows CD.

If I press a number button the display will show CD and that number, but no music is playing.

I disassembled once more and checked all connections, and then it started working and play fine.

But after some more assembely on Ouverture it is now againg onlys spinning af showing CD.

Any Ideas as to what this could be? The fact that it was playing for a while might point at an unstable connection, but might also be something else.

I have been using a grounded anstistatic mat and a ground wristband for all works on the CD mechanism.

Thnaks in advance

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[Madskp]

An just to mention it you Beomaster 7000 can also be connected to the newer Masterlink system with the use of a Beolink 1611 converter. This will give more possibilities for Link room equipment, but will require new cabling.

 

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[Madskp]

Hello. I know that there was an adapter for controlling the Beomaster 5000 with a Beolink 1000 remote control, but not sure if there was an adapter the other way.

If there was it might be hard to find it nowadays.

If you wan’t to reuse your cables (in the walls?) you could use the with the newer MCL2 system if you can find the relay boxes also known as MCL2A type 2046 or 2047 with IR tranciever https://beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=977or MCL X-tra Speakers kit https://beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=974 which might have the same type numbers

In addition you will also be able to use the MCL2AV https://beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=978 that makes it possible to use active speakers in a link room and have separate volume control in the rooms with that unit.

Also the Beolab3500 MK1 https://beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=373 with MCL connector can be used in an MCL 2 system.

Of course none of these products can be found new anymore, so you will have to source them in used condition.

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[Madskp]

pilatomic wrote:

and things I have not taken into account, like proper machining of the connector slots in the enclosure (I really prefer not to show the back of the prototype enclosure, with its very DIY knife cuts), buying the proper screws (my random screws box won’t be able to provides another set of matching screws) and determining the actual assembly time required.

An idea to make it more simple for you could also be to just sell the working PCB and inform what enclosure you have used. I guess for many people doing the mechanical assembly themselves would be an ok compromise.

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[Madskp]

Very nice project ? thanks for letting us know about it. Unfortnuate that the status text is not shown on newer system ( I guess that it is other than the BS2500 where this applies?)

If it only is a hobby project and you dont want to be a manufactur /seller of these units an option could be to make the plans available for others to build it themeselves. I am aware that is not for everyone to do, and there might also be an issue with programming of the chip holding the software, but in the end it could save you some trouble, and worldwide distribution could be easier.

Depending on price I might be interested

 

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[Madskp]

YannChris wrote:

Madskp wrote:

This could be avoided by attaching a set of speakers to another set of PL connctors on the BS3 and assign that speakergroup to music.

I think it’s not necessary, Link+Audio sources should fetch them on the BC2. Yes, BS3/BC2 as main system is more adapted to video sources.

Yes thats right. I wasn’t thinking that the ML connection should also be there, but yes that should work

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[Madskp]

Another idea that will work best for video sources is to set the BC6 in option 4. That way you can activate the BC6 with a Link + the video Source button assigned to the video input for the BS3.  The volume should be set at a fixed level so the volume is controlled from the BS3

The BS3 in option 2 and the BC2 in option 0 should the be controlable by normal commands with all sources available.

However if you will just listen to music with this setup you will still have to activate the BC6 with the Link + Video command first. This could be avoided by attaching a set of speakers to another set of PL connctors on the BS3 and assign that speakergroup to music.

Not optimal but hope it can help getting some ideas

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[Madskp]

From the description with the built in (probably passive speakers) my guess without having seen the connections in the closet would be that in every room there is also a MCL relay box https://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=977 hidden somewhere, maybe over the ceiling. This will then have connection to the built in  speakers and the MCL trancivers. The realy boxes will then be connected on a string of MCL cable and end up in the closet, if thats so.

If you are moving your Sonos amp to the new location and the system is how I think it is you could connect the Sonos amp to the conncetors in the closet and feed power to the relay boxes from a separate power supply. This way you would be able to activate the speakers in the rooms you want to listen to the music by either pressing the mute button on the trancivers or by using an audio source button on a B&O remote.

However that solution might no be optimal as you would need both the Sonos app and the trancivers for control, and there is no individual volume control in the rooms.

But let us see some more about the closet connections

 

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[Madskp]

Have no tried to do the deep cleaning of the laser and remounted the CD mechanism, but no luck. The CD starts spining and will sometimes just show CD, sometimes CD <> or CD 1, and then the disc stops spinning and the display just shows CD.

So now I am a little reluctant if I should try again or just buy a new laser unit for it

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[Madskp]

B3OHACK3R wrote:

Madskp wrote: Just got me thinking of this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beolink-passive-ir-eye/page/3/#post-20843 where I tested an MCL IR eye connected to the AUX connector of a Beomaster 5500 and was able to control it via the IR eye. So based on that volume control via datalink should be possible. I don’t have the Beomaster 5500 anymore, but can try to do the test with a Beocenter 9300 and Beomaster 4500 and see if it works the same. Ah, thanks. That is some good input again. I made the assumption that local volume control through the AAL / DL port should be possible because I saw that the IR protocol is very similar to the DL one. I would have tested it by just sending a Beo 4 IR command for volume up/down without the carrier enabled. Perfect that you already tested that! So most likely they are even identical.

One sidenote to this, I don’t know if it applies to all Beomasters/Beocenters. For the Beomaster 5500 I noticed that the datalines for the MCL2 /speakerlink sockets was directly connected to pin 6 on the AUX socket, but for other systems that is not always the case. The functionality could be the same though.

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