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Madskp
GOLD MemberIs there a red LED with lights on?
If it is the later version of the BL3500 (MK2) it will not react to source commands if it is not connected to an audiomaster.
To check for signs of life you could try to press Menu, 0, 0, GO on your remote (is it a BEO4 remote you have?)
This should give som basic information in the display like sw version
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17 January 2024 at 11:11 in reply to: Setup BeoLab 2000 to get audio from Beolink 1611 converter #51163Madskp
GOLD MemberGood to hear that the problem was solveable and your setup is working again ?
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Madskp
GOLD MemberSad to hear that it ha come to this point although I fully understand the reasoning behind it from your perspective Lee. Good luck on finding a buyer.
I just hope that the forums can continue to exist in some form in the future.
Regarding the Archived forums, the product pages, the FAQ’s and the Beotech sections, and also the current forums those can actually be acessed through the Wayback machine on archive.org.
However none of the search, and/or filtering functions seems to work in these archived versions of the pages, so a very manual process to find information that way.
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Madskp
GOLD MemberOne thing to notice. If my memory serves me well maybe the 0 button has to be pressed in and stay in for the TV to be off.
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Madskp
GOLD MemberA multimeter reading does indeed show negative polarity (the DC output voltage on the old unit is now indicating 19-volts, hence the need for the new 12v DC power supply).
You might not need a new power supply. If the power supply is unregulated, it will read “high” if there is not a load applied. You might want to take the multimeter reading again with the either the device connected to the power supply or a dummy load that simulates the device load. Glitch
I remember from another thread that the forum user GUY had the same experience with the power supply for a MCL2AV, where he meassured it at 20V even though it was rated for 15V
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Madskp
GOLD MemberCan you tell/see, if the laser lens moves in and out to search for focus, when you press CD with no disc loaded?
When I press CD without a CD loaded nothing happens with the laser, and the display shows CD
If I press CD once more the laser will move ind and out and the display will show CD <>
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Madskp
GOLD MemberSome time have passed and based on some older forum post’s I tried a recap of the Philips CDM board on the drive mechanism.
After that I played a full CD. However after playing that first CD it would not play anymore, but after trying some of the test modes from the service manual I have now been able to play several CD’s without problems.
However there is one issue that I notice. When I press CD it will close the clamper and show CD in the display, but not start playing before I press CD once more.
This also applies if I start from standby by pressing CD. Then the display will show CD 1 but not start to rotate before I press CD once again.
A minor issue, but not the way it was supposed to work. Any suggestions as to what this could be?
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Madskp
GOLD MemberAn archived post indicates that the center pin on the 12v DC input for the MCL 2 Expander is NEGATIVE. Can anyone else confirm this with absolute certainty?
The diagram in the service manual also show this
I can confirm that my MCL2AV also has the center pin negative (even though the service manual diagram for that shows the opposite).
If you wan’t to be sure and have acces to a multimeter you should make a continuity test between the center pin and a ground point like the shield screw terminal
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Madskp
GOLD MemberFrom memory back when we had something like that at home you just press one of the number buttons to turn on the channel that number is tuned to.
You turn it off by pressing 0
Hope this helps
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Madskp
GOLD MemberDid you use a B&O original 8-pin cable, and connected that to your DIN to Mini-Jack cable?
No the cable itself is from af B&O 7 pin DIN cable, but i have soldered new conenctors in both ends of it.
I think the big difference with the B&O original cable is that the B&O cable has a shield, besides the GND for the Left and the Right channel.
Yes, but I have used the shield in this cable as ground.
And that this shielding is connected to pin 3, 5 & 7 on the male connector. Do you agree?
Yes I have connected that shield to pin 3, 5 and 7 on the 8 Pin male DIN connector in the BL3500 end.
Do you think that I could use a DIN to Mini-Jack cable that could do the same, if it has separate leads for Left, Right, Ground Left, Ground Right and shielding?
It could be worth a try. The shielding should then probably only be connected to the outer ring of the DIN connector and not be connected to the ground pins (3, 5 and 7).
BTW on my adapter cable there is no connection between the ground pins and the outer ring in the DIN connector
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Madskp
GOLD MemberI have just tried to make a test with my BL3500 MK1.
I could not find my adapter cable I have made for it at first so I started by making a minijack to 7 pin DIN cable where I connected pin 3 and 5 in the DIN plug to ground on the minijack, and and pin 1 and 4 in the DIN plug to L and R in the minijack.
Connected to my Macbook pro connected to power I was getting a noticeable hum when nothing was playing. When I removed the power cord from the Macbook the hum disappered.
Later I found the adapter which is a 8 Pin male DIN plug in the speaker end. Pin 3, 5 and 7 is soldered together and is connected to the screen in the cable (original B&O AUX cable used for this) and connected to PIN 2 in a 7 Pin female DIN connector in the other end of the adapter.
Pin 1 and 4 from the 8 Pin male DIN is connected to pin 3 and 5 in the 7 Pin female DIN connector in the other end of the adapter.
Also I have pin 6 (data) connected between the two DIN plugs.
When I use this adapter with a normal minijack to 5 Pin DIN cable I get no hum (that I can hear). Why this makes a difference I can’t tell.
So this hum issue could both be because of power sources and signal cables or a combination of these.
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Madskp
GOLD MemberI forgot, something that still bugging me: Whatever the preferences I check or not no way to display song name on the Beolab 3500 screen. Any idea? Thanks.
It seems that this might never have worked for the Beolab 3500 display, but only on BS3000, BC2, and maybe other music systems according to this post https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/masterlink-usb-adapter/page/2/#post-28470
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Madskp
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@Madskp: from my Linkplayer experience: • BS3000 displayed, on activation, that the source was either N.RADIO or N.MUSIC. It then displayed the song and the author via horizontally scrolling displayed; or, the radio station and the song. • BL3500 only displayed N.MUSIC or N.RADIO; no additional data was displayed.Thanks for clarifying this. Also explains why user Matador never got the BL3500 showing Metadata in a BL3500 when he was playing with the Beoport and LInkplayer software earlier this year.
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10 January 2024 at 11:05 in reply to: Controlling a Beomaster 6500 via the TV/Aux Datalink’86 pin #51976Madskp
GOLD MemberAnd success! I found the “secret” commands to unmute/mute the Powerlink speaker: unmute – 0x1C mute – 0x1D Prerequisite is an already running Beomaster.
Just to understand this correctly. You can then activate the Beomaster in a muted state via the datalink’86, and then afterwards unmute it also with datalink’86. Is that correct?
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Madskp
GOLD MemberVisually it looks like a Beovox C30/C40 or CX50, but I haven’t heard of this variant before, Guess there can’t be many differences, but maybe someone else can chime in. I can see that the various repair shops has parts for it, so can’t be that rare parts vise
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Madskp
GOLD MemberAbout BeoLab 3500 MK1 In the meantime I learned that BeoLab 3500 til serial number 19343452, are MK1. All serial numbers from 19343452 and up are MK2. So mine (ser. 1787 xxxx) is a MK1 (like you mentioned before Madskp). Also I read on the archived forum (post by Keith Saunders) that the Service Manuals for the BeoLab 3500 MK1 and LCS9000 are the same. In the service manual of the LCS9000 the Pin layout of the DIN connector is shown like this: This is the way I created a Mini-Jack to DIN cable before for a LCS9000. And it worked. Using the same cable for the 3500 MK1 gives a hum.
Btw I am no really sure where you are going with this as your wirering seems to be as it should according to the specifications in the servicemanual for the LC9000/BL3500 MK1
I will see if I can replicate the hum on my BL3500 MK1 and repport back with my findings.
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Madskp
GOLD MemberIt is the 230V power plug I suggest you rotate 180 degree, not the DIN plug pins
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Madskp
GOLD MemberAlso one other easy thing to try: Try to rotate the figure 8 power plug in the Beolab 3500 180 degrees.
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Madskp
GOLD MemberI have also received mine now and got it up and running.
Very nice and very good quality. and attention to detail for easy assembly.
I have testet it on both a Beosound Ouverture (Tape2), a Beomaster 4500 (Tape1 and Tape 2) and a MCL2AV (Tape), and from my little testing it seems to work flawless with the Beotooth 5500 activating all of the above when playing music from my phone, and also all of the systems being able to control the music (start, stop and skip) via the B&O remote and local control on the music systems.
Based on my little time with it till now I can only reccomand it.
Thanks to Pilatomic for making our old systems even more usefull 🙂
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Madskp
GOLD MemberI was leaning in that direction after reading this post from B3OHACK3R: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/universal-link-adapter/page/4/#post-25565 But perhaps I misunderstood.
Not entirly sure, but in option 2 a TV should be able to get the local volume control signals from an audio systems volume buttons sent via datalink. Not sure if that will also work the other way as there has not been any datalink/masterlink compatible TV’s with local volume control. Hope you can get some more info from the real datalink experts
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