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I might try a fresh install of Beoplayer on a Virtual Machine and see what happens.
I just tried a fresh install on a Windows 7 VM.
I ran the registry updater and no radio stations appeared. I then tried the other trick from that other thread as follows:
Navigate to C:\Program Files\Bang & Olufsen\BeoPlayer and look for a file called UpdateNotifier.exe
Double click to run a database update, whereupon you get this message: (Yours should say ‘Beoport’ rather than ‘Beoplayer’)
And all the radio stations rapidly downloaded.
EDIT: I noticed that no BBC radio stations were downloaded, so I checked the registry of the Virtual Machine and the downloaded radio database was last updated on 14 Jul 2023. I think B&O must have removed the BBC stations at this last update because they were no longer compatible.
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Thanks – I successfully updated the registry using those instructions but it doesn’t seem to have made any difference – still says ‘Not Registered’ when I try to use N.Radio. I’m not too bothered about N.Radio but it is nice to get things working, if you can.
I suspect that the ‘ServerURL’ link within that Registry Editor file is no longer supported by B&O. I don’t want to corrupt my installation, so I might try a fresh install of Beoplayer on a Virtual Machine and see what happens.
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I took apart an old SkyHD decoder about a year ago and tried connecting the Hard Drive to my PC. I couldn’t read any files, but downloaded some software called ExPVR to decode the files – this worked and I could view the contents, but it was tricky to use and I am always a bit suspicious of free software.
Once you know the file type (and possibly the make of the innards if not B&O), you may be able to find similar software for decoding purposes.
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One inconvenience though – it means that if I want to use my PC for other purposes (playing games for example), I have to switch the audio outputs on my PC, so audio plays through my PC speakers. Not terribly convenient – it’s as if B&O thought That if you had a Beolink PC2 or Beoport, this would become the only thing you would use your PC for!
Perhaps there’s a PC setting that will allow both audio outputs at once?
Otherwise, you could experiment with connecting the Beoport’s audio out socket (3.5mm socket possibly covered with a sticker) to your PCs sound card input – @Patcherley posted about such a setup here: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beoport-beoplayer/page/3/#post-39482
EDIT: Perhaps you can simply plug your PC speakers into the Beoport’s audio out socket?
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I’ve only just seen this thread – for some reason Beoworld wasn’t refreshing on my desktop today.
Have you yet tried that registry file to get the n.radio stations updated? Details are within the thread that @madskp linked, but I thought I would replicate here for other users:
You simply open a text editor such as Notepad and cut/paste the following text into it. (EDIT: The link in the text is incorrect due to the forum replacing ” with unicode text of &~8221 – see later in thread for correction)
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Bang & Olufsen\BeoPlayer\N.Radio]
“ViewSelection”=hex:00,01,02,03,04
“BufferTime”=dword:00000005
“ServerURL”=”https://nradio.beoplayer.com/nradiodata.asp”
“UserId”=”60B1D8994C224AC69B91931AE710521A”
“SoundIcons”=dword:00000001
“EnableDebug”=dword:00000000Then save the file as N.Radio.reg You can then right-click the .reg file, open with: Registry editor. Once it has been run, radio stations should download.
You may also want to open the Windows volume mixer and check that the ‘BeoNetRadio’ application is not muting – I have found this to be a problem when changing radio stations.
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Is it required that I should use a PL Mk3 for the wire between the BS3000 and the Beolab 2?
Yes, according to the ML Handbook:
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No. The 7-40 bracket (the bit that actually supports the TV) is much wider – you can see that it has levers going into each of the two support poles.
The BV6-26 brackets will support the BV7-32 (but won’t necessarily have the bracket mount below the TV for a Beolab).
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It’s amazing what can be done with ML.
Indeed – in many ways it’s the ‘sweet spot’ of B&O connectivity! Great to see SCART being used also – it’s often overlooked as a potential audio input in such setups. 😀
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Ah – turns out I already had the right cable for that (I never throw a cable out) and you’re right, it works. It would mean I could not have my BV8 TV as part of the ML network but I’m not really all that bothered about that – I don’t use it much anyway. Also means I can get the WIIM Pro to play on the BL3500 of course, so it’s a good solution, thanks!
Great news – it just goes to show what a versatile piece of kit the BL1611 is!
And you could possibly add the BV8 instead of the BL1611. Just use a suitable lead to connect the WIIM Pro to one of the BV’s SCART inputs, setup the input accordingly in the BV8 menu and the ML system should distribute the audio as a video source. With the correct TV option setting, when accessed from the BL3500 or BS4 it should just turn on with a muted screen when distributing the SCART audio over ML.
EDIT: I just checked the BV8 manual – you may be able to use the BV8’s AV3 composite input for the WIIM Pro (just the L&R audio phono socket inputs) in which case you would not need an adaptor. I can’t be 100% sure that this input is distributed over ML, but I see not reason why not.
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Not sure I know how to achieve the above to be honest – how would I get it to recognise my WIIM Pro as a video source? Also would this mean re-wiring the DIN socket?
It should just work. The BL1611 automatically configures itself as a videomaster because there is no other video product on the ML network. Selecting any video source (on the BL3500 or BS4) will then select the BL1611’s AAL socket as the active (sound) input. Although I said that the AAL input uses DIN pins 3&5 as the input, this is a standard used elsewhere in the hifi (incl B&O) world and leads such as this are readily available.
Using such a setup, you should be able to solve the other problem by having your Beogram connected to the BS4 (activated with A.AUX, albeit a bit of a faff from the BL3500), and the WIIM Pro connected to the BL1611’s AAL socket, activated using any video source button.
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Sorry but I don’t know the answer, hence will let Multicare respond.
However, in the meantime, you can use your normal search engine (eg Google) and type in the search bar as follows:
For earliest forum: ‘Beosound 3000 site:archivedforum.beoworld.org’
For later forum: ‘Beosound 3000 site:archivedforum2.beoworld.org’
Obviously replace ‘Beosound 3000’ with your specific search!
I hope this helps in the meantime.
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The only way I have found to get the BL3500 into A.Aux mode is to switch the BS4 to A.Aux mode, then switch the BL3500 on using the physical Mute button next to the display. I can then mute the BS4 if I only want the sound from the BL3500. It works, but it’s not very practical!
You could try adding your BL1611 to the same ML network as the BL3500 and BS4. Connect your WIIM Pro streamer to the BL1611’s AAL input (audio must be to pins 3 & 5), and then try to select it using a Video source on either the BL3500 or BS4 (again BS4 should be in A.OPT 2).
EDIT: What I am proposing is a bit like this OneRemote setup:
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Another though – can you clarify exactly what other B&O devices are connected to the same ML network as the BL3500? If there are no video products, can’t you just put the BC8500 in A.OPT 2 and then trigger the aux input with LINK then a video source such as A.TAPE?
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I would probably look for a later DTV Beo4 (not the navi version) so you can put it in permanent link mode.
I can use my Beolink 1000 for that (Link>Shift>Radio) but my Beolink 1000 does not belong in that room, and it has other limitations when using it with a Beolab 3500.
What limitations?
So, would a Beoremote 1 work for this?
Do you mean the early Beo1 like this? (In which case the answer is no!) Or the later more modern Beoremote One, which according to the manual (page 16) has a Beo4 LINK mode.
Beo5 or 6 would also work for LINK, but can be quite complicated to set up.
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Ypou’re rifght – it doenslt work. I donlt yet have the adadter to connect my BG3000, but I didn connect the BG3000 to the 1614 via A.Aux link plug, then to my BS4 via Masterlink, just to test if there was any Datalink compatibility. There was not – if I pressed Phono on the Beo4 the BS4 came on (but in N.Radio, of course), but the turntable did not activate.
There is a further complication with datalink, but I don’t think it affected your experiment in this case: Tape and CD use pin 7, whereas Phono uses pin 6, unless RIAA is built in (to the Beogram) in which case it uses pin 7 also. (As an aside, the OneRemote RIAA must therefore swap datalink from pin 6 to 7). So your BG3000 probably expects datalink on pin 6, which corresponds to the AAL ‘data’ also on pin 6, albeit not able to control you Beogram in your test.
Out of interest, when you tested this did you try putting the BeoSound in A.OPT 2 and then pressing DVD on the Beo4 – at the very least you should then get Beogram sound, but try controlling the Beogram also. Also, with the Beogram and Beosound running, try a long press on the Beo4 power button to see if it turns both BeoSound and Beogram off – if it does so then at least some data messages are getting through.
As for th alternarive possible MCL2AV solution you give – I did have an MCL2AV only recently but had to return it to the seller as it failed after a short while. Madskp’s diagram does have a note bottom-right though saying this solution would not work if a Beosound was used as the audio master, soi I assume Madskp means that my Beosound 4 is not an alternative to a Beoport in this case.
I think that a Beosound cannot directly replace the Beoport because in his example the BL1611 is acting as the audiomaster (only a BL1611 can do this, not a BL1614), and effectively the Beoport is a link product. There may be a work around but I will have to defer to madskp’s greater experience of such setups!
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That Oneremote preamp has given me an idea but I’d be surprised if it works. The Beosound 4 has one disappointing feature – it only has standard RCA aux input, so no Beolink/Audio Aux Link. I do have a 1614 converter going spare though. Do you think if connected my BG3000 to the Oneremote device, then to the 1614 converter via A.Aux link cable, then to the BS4 via Masterlink, then I would be able to control my BG3000 via remote control?
No I am pretty sure that this wouldn’t work – the problem being that the BL1614 (or 1611) uses Audio Aux Link rather than the datalink that is needed to control the Beogram.
There may be a (messy) solution using an MCL2AV – something like this but with your BS4 instead of Beoport: https://forum.beoworld.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Beolik-Converter-Usecases-5.pdf
The diagram is madskp’s work – hopefully he can comment further!
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The most recently posts from this thread seems to have disappeared? Anyway, in one of those missing posts one of you (can’t remember who sorry) mentioned the datalink-compatible phono stage available from Oneremote (https://shop.oneremote.dk/shop/69068-riaa-amplifier/).
I think that you may be getting confused with your turntable thread here! https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beogram-turntables-which-have-preamp/
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Welcome to Beoworld!
I am guessing a bit here, but it looks very similar to the BC9500 decoder board. Have a look a the BC9500 service manual, which includes CD decoder circuit diagram and component list.
EDIT: BC9500 CD decoder was board discussed here – maybe swap notes! https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beocenter-9500-cd-decoder-board-repair/
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The BeoGram 3500, BeoGram 4500, BeoGram 6500 and BeoGram 7000 all had RIAAs fitted as standard.
And although not fitted as standard, RIAA may have been retro-fitted into the following:
BeoGram 3000, BeoGram 3300, BeoGram 5005, BeoGram 5500, BeoGram 8500, BeoGram 9000, BeoGram 9500, BeoGram TX
EDIT: And further research shows that a RIAA Pre-Amp module could also be fitted to BeoGram 1000, 1200 and 1800 (BeoParts (now: Danish Sound Parts) sell kit replicas of the original modules)
EDIT 2: I also just noticed that OneRemote sell an RIAA pre-amp that passes the datalink through, useful for datalink era non-RIAA Beograms such as BG9500: https://shop.oneremote.dk/shop/69068-riaa-amplifier/
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I was able to switch my BL3500 to A.Aux using Link>Shift>Phono.
Are you sure it wasn’t LINK>SHIFT>RADIO?
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