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GOLD MemberAfter a few hours, I had a modest pile of old caps out and replaced with fresh electrolytic goodness.
Again – absolutely amazing opportunity to marvel at some truly epic packaging / design engineering.
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GOLD MemberNow for all the little caps inside plus trimmers and a fresh Burr Brown OPA134 op amp. Hope you like working with a flashlight.
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GOLD MemberNew power caps are finally in. I always appreciate finding all the little B&O branding elements throughout old systems like this. I’m guessing these were all made by suppliers but still nice to see.
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GOLD MemberA closer look at what I mean. No slack in the wires and they are nearly tied in knots through those solder lugs. I tried to surgically remove the wiring exactly as it was by de-soldering with a pump and painstakingly maneuvering the wires out but in the end it wasn’t worth it.
In order to get the new caps to fit in the black plastic holder, I needed to add some wire so I soldered on some extensions ultimately.
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GOLD MemberFirst thing was to get the main power caps swapped out. Seemed easy enough! Turned out, like many things in this amp, to be a highly-tedious process due to the cramped nature of this beast. The cable routings are exact. No real wiggle room to get things in and out and the lack of extra wiring harness made it extremely tough to get the connections made without burning things nearby with the soldering iron.
In the background I was watching the AutoAlex series on his new Jag XJR-6. Highly recommended! Judging by the coffee hardware in the background this was clearly an AM session!
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GOLD MemberLoving this thread
Glad you like it! Had to take a lunch break, now back at it.
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GOLD MemberSee what I mean?? This is amazing. Yes, those power supplies actually fit in there!
This level of disassembly is unfortunately necessary, the power caps (and all other caps to be honest) live in the core of this beast.
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GOLD MemberNow time for the amplifiers. Man do these things need a lot of disassembly before you can really get to the matter at hand. Not to mention the actual task of working inside a pentagonal heatsink. However that was also something to marvel at. The engineer in me is very impressed that this amp even exists. The heat sink is clearly just big enough to hold the transformer and there seemingly isn’t a single right angle among any two components. Packaging this thing mist have been hell. If anyone from the original Penta project team is reading this, I’d love to know more about this. Did you guys/gals use CAD to develop this package?! Even if you did, I’m impressed.
Never mind the poor photo, this was mostly just to keep track of cable routing.
Now that the gray trim pieces and power cord are off, its time to pull out those power supplies.
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GOLD MemberOne thing I didn’t notice until I started the re-cap was this burned resistor.
I suspect this artifact is evidence to their history of being thrashed in a large restaurant but this seemed to be the limit to the damage on the crossover. Anyway, needed to order this resistor from Mouser and do some waiting. So I moved on to the amps themselves while waiting for a pair of these resistors to arrive.
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GOLD MemberAfter taking the mids out and taking those to the office (more about that later), I decided to pull out the crossovers and start there. Lets get started with the fun, easy soldering of putting new caps into the crossover.
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GOLD MemberI quickly ordered all the cap kits from BeoParts and a new set of surrounds from good hifi (I think). Both took a long time to arrive in CA and sadly not soon enough for me to do anything about it. I was flying out to Wales in order to start my next assignment at work.
They stood in the corner of the garage not doing anything for about 3 months.
I finally returned from Wales in November and finally had the chance to sink my teeth into these babies. First things first – lets get the mids out.
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GOLD MemberLooking forward to seeing/reading some more on this project.
Hey Pepps – I’ll write up a thread on it in a little while (have many more photos). I’m in the home stretch and just might finish it this weekend!
However I will tease one thing… Yesterday I did embark on the re-foaming of the midrange drivers. Mission was successful.
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GOLD MemberBack on track – what Evan listens to:
Living room in UK: Pair of BL5s with BL10 center channel.
Stateside I have very little B&O in current use as most of it is in storage or being repaired. Currently just two BL4Ks serving music duty in the bedroom and a spare BL4k running as a mono center speaker under my TV. Oh and recently re-acquired my BeoLit 15 for mobile listening.
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GOLD MemberGlad to see you are still kicking around, Rich! I fondly remember those old (BUT GOLD) threads of yours.
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GOLD MemberI’m back in the US for a little while so I’m trying to sort out one of my other previous acquisitions, BL Penta MK2. They need the full overhaul so I bought all 3 cap kits and new foam surrounds. These will be the main L/R channels in the master bedroom and the basis of a surround system (eventually!).
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GOLD MemberI’ve never heard the original BeoSound 1 but this is motivating me to do so. I’ve always loved the antenna and button design.
I would say for B&O newcomers, the actual speakers themselves might be the best. By that I mean something from the BeoVox range so they can connect them up to whatever receiver/amps they have already.
Originally what came to my mind was BeoVox S45.2 but I also agree with the BeoVox RL60.2. Both provide epic playback experience and excellent value when either pair could be had for ~$200 US.
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GOLD MemberFor some reason I thought this function was tucked away in the service menu somewhere. I was pulling my hair out trying to find it as I attempted to get my new-to-me BV7 to play nice with an ATV.
I was about to raise hell with my dealer for not actually assigning the inputs/connections/PUCs etc. as I had asked and I thought they fudged it. Turns out they just did the minimum and only updated the PUC library and called it a day.
Thanks for posting this, Guy! I’m down to one remote, the greatest remote, my precious Beo4.
Location: San Francisco12 September 2022 at 00:02 in reply to: I want to give away a Beovision 5 – fully operational #38948Evan
GOLD MemberI’m interested but I’m not sure I can provide a rapid solution.. I just relocated to the Cardiff area but have no wheels! This BV5 would serve as bedroom tv for me.
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GOLD MemberThe Edge is a funky speaker. A lot of purists have trouble liking it for the usual reasons but if you approach it from the perspective of high-end, bauhaus inspired boombox I think it starts to make sense. Clearly not meant to be a reference speaker with its odd (but very innovative!) acoustic concept but definitely more than adequate at providing more-than-loud-enough background tunes for partying and day-to-day life at home.
Glad the active bass port was called out here. This feature is by far one of the most overlooked innovations in the entire industry right now.
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GOLD MemberThanks, Tignum! Nothingness is one of my go-to test tracks. Apart from it being an awesome song, the distant thunderstorm effect at the beginning is particularly difficult to render for some speakers so I like to use it in my usual test material.
Ok deviating from main topic now but this is an interesting rabbit hole I’m heading down… I did a few more measurements at my listening position of the ‘RT60’ test (on REW this time instead of Audacity) and indeed my room is pretty live. Roughly 40% more live than prescribed in the REW manual. I made two tests, one at left position and one at right position to mimic the speaker locations (I used a sound source different to the speaker as I couldn’t pipe a stimulus to the system just yet). My mind is properly blown as REW is able to do this with a log-chirp and not a noise decay like the usual test method. Anyway, for the “left” test I averaged 416ms.
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