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Hello Hockey44,
You can run either PowerLink, Masterlink or Network Link over regular in wall Cat7 S/FTP solid wire ethernet cables. Check also the handbooks mentioned top right on this site.
You can terminate such cables using RJ45 keystones in standard wall (or floor) outlets at all places where you need such a connection. And only there use an adapter cable (when needed), like an off the shelf RJ45 to 8pin DIN (for BL3 or BL9) or custommade RJ45 to ML for the BS9000. You could even make custom RJ45 to mini jack adapter cables for the BL5 volume syncing connection if at all needed. This would mean that you can install very standard cabling, but use it very specifically for your (heritage) B&O equipment. The other advantage is that normal diameter tubing can be used as you do not need to pull (large) connectors through them. Normally the wall outlets (at least here in the Netherlands) can hold 2 tubes and two keystones each, the mounting plate for the keystones looking like this:
Apart from the mini jack cables I use all of the above connections. Example of the kitchen BL4000:For the digital coax connection to the BL5s there are S/PDIF coax keystones too, allowing to pull coax cables without connectors. Again standard cabling.
In my mind it would be most elegant to use a central utility room to connect all the cables. In that room, the CAT7 cables can be terminated in a (clearly labelled) patch panel, ready to be used for a specific purpose. It will keep a lot of the inevitable cable clutter out of sight. Maybe even your streamer. And to some extent you can call it future proof as you can use the CAT7 cables when you upgrade, even your LAN, and the conducts allow for pulling other types of cables if ever needed. I must mention that some people will say that this use of a central utility room will give more connections in an even longer signal path, but my eyes are better than my ears :-).For all places where you could want to place a speaker (no Atmos plans?) I would advise to: a.) make power available, and b.) run two conducts to the central utility room (in most use cases you will need one tube only with CAT7, for the BL 5s 2 conducts is best: one for digital audio coax, one potentially for the volume leveling connection if required).
For all places where you could want to place a TV or other AV equipment, I would advise to run more conducts to the central utility room: for Ethernet 2x (TV & e.g. Apple TV), (for Masterlink?) and best one per two of the potentially connected surround sound speakers (note that it is not easy to pull 2 CAT7 cables through a standard tube, Dutch ones at least), the good thing is that one PowerLink cable carries the signals for two speakers (like L&R).
For the places where you want to place the BS9000, best is to have (next to power) two conducts with CAT7 cabling, one for potential use of MasterLink, one or two for PowerLink, and one for the digital coax out if required.
To connect everything you will need someone that understands the B&O BeoLink logic, (maybe make) some specific cables, perhaps a few PowerLink splitters.
I think you will get my general advice: bring power and sufficient conducts to the places where you want speakers or AV equipment, and tie it all together in a utility room.
Hope this helps a bit! Best of luck, let us know how you get on. When you are not up to doing all this yourself, best is like MM says, to find a good B&O installer to make the plan and do the installation. Perhaps someone here in the UK can give you advice on that. I doubt it will be cheap, as nothing is with B&O, but at least it should be good value.
Regards, Johan
Location: NetherlandsHello McRib,
The frames are made of plastic. See also this thread (where I posted some pictures of me putting new cloth on). https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/changing-cloth-on-beolab-8000-instructions/
I would say that it will not be easy to make the flanges and the top part align perfectly as on some (stock) images, especially when redone.
The original cloth was welded to the frames. Mine are not 100% flush. The flanges stick out a bit. I think it is because of the added thickness of cloth and tape. Still they are now much better than before!
Regards,
Johan
Location: Netherlands17 November 2023 at 19:30 in reply to: Happy 98th Birthday B&O! Special Beolab 8 gift to be won… #50500Yep!
Johan
Location: NetherlandsHello George, on the sides of the wallmounts you should be able to see a (bit of) the red latch through hole C (see below). Pushing with a suitable pin will release the hatch, and you should be able to slide the speaker off.
As a sidenote, are the 4000s not aiming too much at the floor? Part B of the wall bracket can be positioned using the ribs on the back in case you want them to be tilted more upward.
I hope someone else can help with the BS9000!
Best of luck, Johan
Location: NetherlandsHello pestria, all,
I do use a BeoSystem 3 with an LG Oled. The LG is used as the ‘video hub’ (AppleTV 4K connected), and the BS3 as the ‘audio hub’ (MasterLink connected to BM6500/CD7000, BS5, Core) with BL2/7/6000/8000.
I feed the LG’s optical audio output, via an optical/digital converter, into an S/P DIF port of the BS3. It carries Dolby Digital.
The audio signal of the TV does get distributed over ML, it must be that the BS3 does some digital/analog converting for that.
Maybe this helps in your decision-making. Regards, Johan
Location: NetherlandsHello Johan, yes, the Beosystem 3 manages the HDMI inputs (Streamer, Blu-Ray…).
What if: BC6 (option 4) DVI connected to BSys3; command Link-PC to start PC source on BC6. BC2 (option 0) and BSys3 (option 2) ML connected and Scart connected; the BSys3 then is the ML leader; BC6 is solemnly the monitor. Now the only thing: what about sound coming from the BC6 speakers, maybe a cable from Steve; PL to RCA will do the trick
A BV 7-32 would be simpler in this set-up, with the BL7 connected to the BS3 using PowerLink. It would also avoid double reaction to volume commands (both BS3 and BC6-26 reacting).
Location: NetherlandsHello TWG, what is the reason you want to use the BeoSystem 3? For its HDMI inputs? Regards, Johan
Location: Netherlands31 October 2023 at 17:20 in reply to: beosystem3 linked with beosound 9000 gives surround,no stereo #49930Cool! Impressive set :-).
What was the issue in the end you think?
Regards, Johan
Location: Netherlands29 October 2023 at 19:37 in reply to: beosystem3 linked with beosound 9000 gives surround,no stereo #49925Hello kriskarman,
In the ‘sound adjustment’ menu there is the option to choose defaults for audio and video. For ‘DEFAULT AUDIO’ it should then state ‘SPEAKER2’ for stereo + sub. Maybe have a look there first? Don’t forget to ‘STORE’ the setting.
Let us know what you find,
Regards, Johan
Location: Netherlandsugly but cheap and very easy!
Location: NetherlandsThat is so funny! The BeoVirus can hit you hard haha.
I would not have thought that the 9000 would be so sensitive. Brings me to a potential (and ugly) option: there are IR range limiters for Beo4 (for dealers), if your 9500 and 9000 are not too close this could maybe work? (though your 9000 seems to be eager!).
https://www.idav.nl/reduced-range-ir-demper-beo4.html
another thought I had (not knowing how your speaker set-up with the 9500 is) was to put an ML/NL BLC between the 9000 (and use the NL network, to control the 9000 via the 9500 with Beo4 (or vice versa)), but I doubt you will have enough commands on the Beo4 to use for all the RADIO and CD and TAPE sources. If this sounds like an idea at all, check maybe this thread: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/difference-between-source-sugnals/ about ‘three generations of link systems’.
Location: NetherlandsRoyal Blood – How did we get so dark?
A lot of sound from a two-man-band!
Location: NetherlandsSmart idea indeed to test the principle with a garbage bag covering the whole thing! (or thick blanket or so)
Location: NetherlandsHello Raiderxx, welcome to the forum. Great to see you plan to TLC these iconic speakers. The sources for the parts have been the choice of many others here. I am sure that when you google Beoworld and Audiofriends or Beoparts you will find a lot of good talk. Best of luck, Johan
Location: NetherlandsHello BeoTool, what about masking off the IR sensor of the 9000 (in option 1)? Or am I overlooking something here?
Regards, Johan
Location: NetherlandsKeep us posted, we will not tell anyone!
Location: NetherlandsHi again pontios,
When I follow the instructions in my previous post, I get to this screen:
Maybe this helps you further.
I am not sure what you want to do with the Beo4 when it comes to setting up the system. You can configure your BS5/BM5 on the BS5 itself.
I would say that your BM5 should be set as ‘Audiomaster’ and in ‘Option 0 – no IR reception’ when you only have connected the BL3500 using MasterLink.
The BL3500 in ‘Option 2 – one IR receiver in the room’ I reckon.
In your photograph they appear to be close, maybe be best to cover the IR receiver of the other device when setting the option (to avoid setting them both at the same time).
Regards, Johan
Location: NetherlandsHello Pontios, nice system!
You can access the service menu (on the BeoSound 5) like this:
User/service/installation manuals are on the Beoworld site for Silver and Gold members ;-), recommended!
I don’t use BeoConnect etc to place music, from my Mac I connect to the BM5’s IP address and copy files on the drive.
Good luck!
Johan
Location: NetherlandsHoi, goed te horen, prachtige speler! Geniet ervan, J.
Location: NetherlandsHallo annemiekuhh,
Personally I would never cut the cable. The BeoGram 4500 is a valuable record player, loved by many enthusiasts. It will not be original anymore when you cut the cable and lose a part of its value. Probably more than the price of the cable.
Just my thought. Johan
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