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Madskp
GOLD MemberHi everyone,
We are experiencing some server/website issues.
We are flat out trying to find the issue.Sorry for the issues.
Thanks for informing about the issue. If it is any help in troubleshooting the problem I have noticed that the site got slower and slower around a week before it was not possible to access anymore
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GOLD MemberThe behaviour of your touch buttons got me thinking about a Beomaster 3000 I worked on some years ago which after my work had both non working touch buttons, and also the volume would just go up by itself.
I got some suggestions in a thread here on Beoworld about the transistors in the touch button circuitry and replaced some of them without any change in behavior.
But then at one point I noticed that the flex cable between the two PCB’s under the touch buttons had some bad connections (broken cable where it was going through the PCB), but also that some of the wire ends from the flex cable was bend and touching each other on the solder side of the board. solving these issues fixed the problems with the touch buttons.
So I would suggest that you look into those connections s they can easily be bend or damaged when working on the system.
I don’t know if the BM2400 PCB for the touch buttons is also divided in two or if it is using the same flex cables, but I hope this can be helpfull in your troubleshooting anyway
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GOLD MemberIf that does not work it might be an idea to look into if similar parts can be found in a TV from the MX series. These might be easier to find than an extra AV9000
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GOLD MemberI was wondering if I should switch the amplifier component from the 3000s onto the 4500s, to make a pair of BL4500s instead. Not sure it’ll be worth the bother though.
Maybe check if the speaker foam looks ok on both of them. But other than that probably no other reason than scratches and fabric wear that could be issues
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GOLD MemberThe displa colors are mentioned here https://beoworld.org/beolab-4500/
I guess the 3000 and 5000 share the same display
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GOLD MemberThe 4500 is an updated version of the 3000
Look here https://beocentral.com/beolab4500
I am not sure if display colors are different like on the Pentas (yelllow vs green)
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GOLD MemberShould the Playmakers show up in the B&O app?
I my case it does not. Even after setup as described above I still just get the go to wireless settings and choose the wireless network with Playmaker in it’s name message.
So not sure what the intention from B&O is behind this or if they have just forgot that it is shown in the app and should have been removed
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GOLD MemberI have been advised to replace it with a non rifa foil cap equivalent 100n x2. But without suggesting which one to use, I dont suppose you know of one? T.i.a
I just replaced with a Rifa of same specifications in my Playmaker, thinking if it can last 10 years it might be just fine.
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GOLD MemberHello
Rifa caps (I guess thats the brand of them?) have a bad reputation of going bad due to aging, moisture, thermal stress etc. try to do a Google search on Rifa caps for more info regarding failure of them.
Therefor I would not recommend to replace with a used one as this might also blow anytime soon.
I was advised in another thread to be sure to get a replacement with an X2 marking which the installed one might also have.
And lastly use gloves when you handle the burnt one. The residu will smell for a long period, so avoid getting it on your fingers
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GOLD MemberIf not, given your wifi is 2.4 compatible, the integrated web server should make it. There is no bonus trying to use the B&O App, it is just useless.
Good to know that we are not missing out on something.
Thinking about it I also do not think that the current Bang & Olufsen App would give any benefit since the Playmaker do not support any Beolink or multiroom features.
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GOLD MemberI was able to use the old BeoSetup app (no longer avail) to do a ‘first-time’ setup the Playmaker. As described in the instructions, I had to first go into the iPhone wireless menu, disconnect from my home wifi and connect to ‘Playmaker_AP’, whereupon the BeoSetup app (but not the B&O app) could be used to complete setup.
I have never downloaded this app while it was available, so can not check, but I guess it’s probably an easier way to navigate to the web interface than typing in the adress in a browser. Or does it have other features than the web interface?
I found the Playmaker setup menu under the published IP address of http://169.254.11.22 – so perhaps it is indeed just different for the Mk2 Playmaker (or perhaps it is only for first time setup via cable – I haven’t seen a Mk2 manual).
Ok I just realised that when I used http://192.168.1.1 I was actually connected to the wireless network the Playmaker makes, so at least for the MK2 it is possible to connect to the Playmaker network and set it up via this IP adress.
But to check the cabled network setup I did a double factory reset (first with the button as per instructions in the manual, and next in the web interface). At no point was I able to connect to the Playmaker by using http://169.254.11.22 . However when using an IP scanner I found that the Playmaker had the IP adress http://192.168.1.175 which I also have noticed at another point.
Accesing the web interface without having done any setup the status page on my MK2 Playmaker shows this which confirms the wireless and wired network IP adresses
Edit: The IP adress http://192.168.1.175 may just be a DHCP provided IP from my router, but none of the less it is not the fixed IP that is mentioned in the manual for cable setup of the Playmaker.
Hope this is helpfull for anyone setting up a Playmaker
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GOLD MemberGreat to hear that it was so relatively easy to solve the issue 😀
my Almando switch only have the 2 Powerlink inputs which is fine in my setup, but great that yours had an extra input
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GOLD MemberI agree with guy that the two proposed solutions are the most user friendly options.A powerlink switch like this to enable two devices to share the speakers: https://shop.oneremote.dk/shop/69067-powerlink-switch/4162-powerlink-speaker-switch/
If you do not need multiroom features the powerlink switch might be the simplest of the two suggestions as it’s mostly plug and play. I would just like to mentions that there are other products like that. For example the brand Almando has similar solutions which can switch between even more inputs so you can add a music streamer like Sonos Port, Airport express, Chromecast Audio or whatever you wish. https://almando.com/Multiplay-Stereo-III_1
I do not have experience with the current version, but have an older one that has been working without issue for around 10 years now.
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GOLD MemberI just added a picture to an existing post where I got the error before, so seems to work now.
thanks for the quick response on these issues 😀
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GOLD MemberI just tried to update my latests post in this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/reply/65219/ with at picture but get the message:
“Error Reply cannot be empty” in a red box
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GOLD MemberMadskp
GOLD MemberA little progress with my own Ouverture. I have now tried to mix and match different parts between units just to see if anything changed regarding the having to press CD twice behaviour.
Turns of that when I replace PCB89 CD Interface board to the right of the Mechanism the CD will now start playing with only one press on CD
To test this further I also tried to move both PCB89 and the CD mechanism to the other Ouverture unit and it was also working there, so something must be wrong on my original board. I have yet to analyze this further
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GOLD MemberAnd also now I could not add pictures to the above poste but had to edit it and attach them afterwards
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GOLD MemberNot sure if the update for quoting have been implemented yet, but I Have not been able to quote in postes for the last couple of days.
I get one of the 2 errors shown here:
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GOLD MemberI just tried to do a factory reset of my MK2 Playmaker to refresh my memory of the setup proces.
Initially I tried to use the B&O app for setup. But if I add a new product and choose Playmaker the B&O app says to go to wireless settings and choose the wireless network with Playmaker in it’s name. If I do that and go back to the app I still get the same message. I can see this is also the case for Beolit 12 which I belive is based on the same platform.
So I guees the app is not fully updated for setup of these products anymore.
Instead of the app I tried to go to the setup webpage mentioned in the manual
http://169.254.11.22/ But had no luck getting there. I tried with an IP scanner on my phone to find the correct IP and it turns out it was http://192.168.1.1
(I am not sure why this is not as mentioned in the manual, but maybe a difference between MK1 and MK2 or something that has changed with an software update.)
from the setuppage I could setup the Playmaker to use my wireless network and it is now active again.
hope this is helpfull for setup of a playmaker
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