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I do actually have a Windows 11 laptop with me this week, so in the next few days I will try a normal install of Beoport and connect my Beolink PC2 to see if it works. I will get back to you with the results.
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Does the essence have a wifi option?
Yes it will connect to wifi so you don’t have to use a wired network.
If you do get an Essence, make sure that you get a Mk2 which (unlike the Mk1) has support for NL/Beolink Multiroom.
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I am not sure how you are triggering the Beolab at the moment – do you have a separate (maybe USB) 5V supply to turn it on?
One solution could be to add a Beosound Essence Mk2. Connect your TV hdmi arc extractor output to the Essence’s auto sensing line input, and connect the Beolab to the Essence PL output.
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Hi Carl G and welcome back to Beoworld!
I have the Beoport (Beolink PC2) software running on my Windows 10 (32-bit) PC, and I have also tried it successfully on a Windows 11 Virtual Machine, as reported here: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beoport-beoplayer/page/3/#post-39484
There is one strange problem (also mentioned in that thread) with the muting of radio stations, but I think this has bugged Beoport since the move from Vista!
If Beoport runs, then as long as Windows 11 can find the driver it should be fine with the hardware. Have a search of the Forum for other Beoport threads and you may find additional info or someone who is using the hardware with Windows 11.
I am delaying the move to Windows 11 as long as possible; my desktop PC will be 16 years old in September and I don’t like being forced to change it! 🙁
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BS7000 PL and DL connected to T1611 – ML connected to BLC – set as ASlave (thus no speakers) Next and Previous, Sources are accepted
This was the closest to something that I can replicate, hence I have just tried with my BC2300 and BLC set to ASlave (instead of V Master). It works as yours, but only when ‘Product Controlled by apps’ is set to ‘Beolink Converter NL/ML’. (not ML Audiomaster). I don’t have any audio products with ML, so can’t try without the BL1611.
I presume you did set the sources in the BLC page “experience mapped to NL”?
Yes, and I have re-checked this each time I have altered anything on the ‘settings’ page.
So your experience with your setting is not coherent with my findings of my system.
Only in that I can get full B&O app control of a TV when connected directly to BLC by ML. (i.e I can start it ‘unmuted’ with the app, and control fully thereafter including volume.) As stated above, I don’t have any audio products with ML hence can’t replicate your Bs9000 or BS3000 findings (hence the reason I wondered whether they would behave like my TV). If you get a chance do you have any Beolabs that you could temporarily connect to your BS3000 to see if you can use the app to start it in an unmuted state?
I would say the ‘Product Controlled by apps’ is not defining how the BLC reacts.
But it is changing the behaviour (specifically app control of ‘ML’ products) in the setups that I have described above.
Anyway, many thanks for the valuable feedback and input. Rest assured that I can get the BLC to do everything that I need it to do but was experimenting to try and help Beofile7 with his ambitious BS7000 control requirements.
And good luck with the house move – it’s always fun setting up B&O somewhere new!
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You can’t use the Halo to do this. A compromise! Simple as that!
@Carolpa: Can I just ask your understanding of the limitation here?For example, if I connect my BLC to my BV10-32 by masterlink, set the BLC as an A Master, and set the ‘Product Controlled by apps’ to ‘ML Videomaster’ I can use the B&O app for full control of the TV (turn on/off, change channels, control volume, change sources).
But with the BLC connected to my BC2300 by ML/BL1611/AAL, setting the BLC as a V Master, if I then set the ‘Product Controlled by apps’ to ‘ML Audiomaster’ I have no control whatsoever over the BC2300. If I change the ‘Product Controlled by apps’ to ‘Beolink Converter NL/ML’ then I can use the app to start and control the BC2300, but in a muted state as described earlier.
So I am guessing that the BLC enables full app control of a product when connected by ML only, and that the BL1611 introduces limitations (possibly due to the use of AAL). If the BLC was connected to an ML equipped audiomaster would full control (volume etc) be possible?
(EDIT: I don’t know anything about Halo, but am I right in saying that if the B&O app can control something on ML via BLC, then Halo should also be able to control?)
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I think I was suffering from finger trouble with the Beo4? Sources need to be selected first. With the Beolink 7000 it knows the source… the Beomaster 7000 tells it.
That makes sense – it’s easy to forget the logic of the Beo4 and the requirement to check the screen and select the source first!
I will bear your suggestion of an I/R sensor in mind but I am not sure about having the main connection between Beomaster 7000 and Beolab 50 going through multiple conversions and cables and units. I feel much more comfortable having a direct powerlink from the master to the speakers. But it may be an option?
Yes maybe worth thinking about for the future. One other advantage of the BLC IR sensor (and speakers) scheme is that if you are playing a BM7000 source in both the main room and an NL room the sound will be synchronised, because the Analogue to Digital delay will be equally applied to the BLC powerlink output and any NL audio output.
Then again, I was saying that 3 weeks ago when this started. ???
Three weeks is nothing … I have been experimenting and learning for 18 years! 😀
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I have managed to “unmute” the sound using the Beolink 7000. ‘Not sure why that would not work with the Beo4? The system then is fully controllable via I/R and the Beoconverter will control sources/tracks etc. but again no volume. As the purpose of all of this is to control the 7000 via a Halo (which is essentially a volume control) the project is failing badly?
Strange that the BL7000 with control the BM7000 but not the Beo4. Does the Beo4 work for other control once unmuted?
I still think it would be worth trying an IR sensor (and the BL50s) connected to the BLC. I think this would give you the control that you are seeking. I am using an old style ML sensor connected to the BLC, hence no great expense involved and it is easy to connect to the BLC IR input via a correctly wired RJ45.
I don’t know enough about BL50 to comment about suitability of feeding their RCA input from the BLC’s powerlink, but be careful!
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What if you redirect the FM Radio command in the IR mapping of the BLC to another source?
Thanks for suggestion. I just tried A.MEM and then TV. Either allows me to turn on FM Radio using the Beo4 (i.e by pressing A.MEM or TV on the remote), but FM RADIO still doesn’t appear as an available BLC source on the app. It’s not really a major limitation; as you suggested before, if I add my Essence and/or Beoplay M3 to the NL side I can see and select FM RADIO as an app-controlled source (on Essence/M3 respectively, still not visible on BLC).
Anyway this is drifting away from @Beofile7’s problems – I wonder how he is getting on? I find it strange that he cannot ‘unmute’ his BM7000 with the Beo4 once it has been started from elsewhere in the NL system. I would try disconnecting the BM7000 from the BLC and checking that it works fine as a stand-alone system (just with Beolabs connected).
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If you do as @Carolpa suggests, I understand that you also want IR control of the BM7000, hence I think you could put the BM7000 in A.OPT 0 (to stop it responding to IR) and add an IR receiver to the BLC to give both IR control and app/Halo control.
I just tried this with my setup: BC2300 in A.OPT 0. Added IR sensor to BLC and moved speakers (Passive etc) from BC2300 to BLC also. It works fine. I can start BC2300 using app and/or Beo4 remote. The only loss of functionality is the volume display on the front of the BC2300 (because the BLC is controlling the volume).
EDIT: One other limitation: As described is this thread, I cannot start the BC2300 FM Radio source using the app, but I can using the Beo4 remote. As mentioned later in that thread, it is possible to add the FM radio source as an ML source on other NL devices, such as Beosound Essence.
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I think the reason for this behaviour is that the way the NL/ML converter connect to a B&O music system is in many ways how it would work with a connected Beovision or a Link room where it is the speakers on the controlling unit (in this case the NL/ML converter just controlled via App or another NL device instead of a remote) that is started and not the speakers connected to the the music system
I agree – it’s the logical way for the system to work! Also, I don’t think the ‘
datalink‘ ‘audio aux link’ connection (between BL1611 and BM7000/BC9300) is designed to control volume. However, when I connected my BV10-32 to the NL/ML Converter I could control the TV volume with the app, so a purely ‘masterlinked’ BLC may be more capable.Do you still use the Beolink Passive for local speaker?
Yes I did but I used my little adaptor to swap PL trigger pins so that the Passive muted correctly – hopefully behaving just like a Beolab.
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I have just been experimenting with a NL/ML Converter connected to BC2300 via BL1611. I can start the CD and skip through tracks, but my BC2300 also starts in a muted state. Unlike you, I can then use the Beo4 remote to unmute and control the volume (hence I am surprised that you cannot do the same with the IR remote for your BM7000).
You could disconnect the Beolabs from the Beomaster 7000. Set the BLC as VMaster. Connect the BL to the BLC. Then try to start the Beosystem 7000 sources on the BLC with the Halo or B&o app.
If you do as @Carolpa suggests, I understand that you also want IR control of the BM7000, hence I think you could put the BM7000 in A.OPT 0 (to stop it responding to IR) and add an IR receiver to the BLC to give both IR control and app/Halo control.
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Didn´t know that the connection between Beolink 1000 and the BC is down after changing the battery.
The problem was the A.OPT setting of the Beocenter. Basically, if you don’t want it to respond to the remote, you can put it in A.OPT 0 by pressing SOUND 0 STORE on the BL1000.
SOUND 1 STORE will make it respond to IR commands again, but only audio commands (RADIO, CD etc)
SOUND 2 STORE will allow it to respond to both audio commands (as above) and video commands (TV, SAT etc).
For some reason removal of the battery made it revert to A.OPT 0
And have a great weekend too!
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Hi Stefan,
I gather from your other post that you have a BL1000 remote.
With the Beocenter in standby (turned off), use the BL1000 to press ‘SOUND’ then ‘1’ then ‘STORE’. Hopefully the Beocenter will then respond to the remote.
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Splitter is inverted “Y” with one “branch” immediately coming from the BM7000, the other RJ45 from the converter and the stem off to the speaker. (BL50) If there is a conflict wiring this way I wonder if I could leave the powerlink connected to the 7000 and connect the converter via USB or RCA to the speaker thereby choosing a different input?
Yes this is a conflict and I would strongly advise against using it in this way. (Effectively you have the output of the BM7000 connected direct to the output of the NL/ML – one may well damage/overload the other. Furthermore, the speakers could well be receiving an unusual (potentially damaging) dual input.)
The correct solution is to connect the speakers to the BM7000 and persevere to get the system working as it should!
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I put a powerlink splitter in the connection
Can you explain where? It’s not a good idea for Beolabs to have two different inputs.
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If it’s an intermittent fault then it could well be an issue with one of the cables, or the connections to either BL1611 or BM7000. I think that you have tried two different 7-pin DINs, but maybe check that they are securely inserted, and also check the ML cable – make sure that the terminals are clean and that there is no fluff or dirt in the sockets.
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I am pretty sure that the NL/ML Converter should not be set as A Master because this will conflict with the BM7000/BL1611 which is also acting as an Audio Master. Try V Master.
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That did the trick! Could not type in 2002 on CONFIG? on the new Beo4 remote for whatever reason, but could with the old one. Then successfully could sent with that same old remote A.OPTION > 1 to Beomaster 7000 (saw it being received) and then everything worked again; also with the new Beo4 remote. Thanks you so much!
Great news – I was beginning to give up hope. To be honest I am not 100% sure what the problem was but am very glad that it is working now. Thanks for your patience in experimenting with my ideas! 😀
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es 7 PIN datalink. I have tried two of them now.
My main worry was that it may be in the wrong socket on the back of the Beomaster – there are so many DIN connections that it can be hard to locate the TV/AUX when fumbling around blind
I now suspect the 7000 is in a wrong mode somehow but I have tried them all. ‘Very odd?
The A.OPT of the Beomaster should have no effect here, but I would probably leave it on A.OPT 1 so that you can use a remote, or A.OPT 2 if you wanted to also control video sources distributed by the NL/ML converter.
A further thought: Have you tried connecting the BC2 to the BM7000 by ML? You could put the BC2 in A.OPT 6 thus pretending that it is in a Linkroom, and then see if you can control the BM7000 from it.
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