The theatre will not ensure multi-room speakers stay in sync with TV sources.
That capability ended with the Eclipse / Harmony generation of TVs – so yes, other multi room speakers could join the audio from video sources playing on a BV Eclipse (for ex), but the joined speaker would be out of sync. The previous generation (BS4 platform of BV’s) did allow the audio sync to be managed, but as I say, that capability has gone. And I dont believe it has returned with the Theatre.
As / If the Theatre gains the ability in the future (as seems likely) for Mozart enabled B&O speakers to be used as part of a theatre based setup, it would seem logical perhaps then that the syncing issues may get sorted out. But until then, assume no.,
not sure if that is exactly the question / scenario you are asking about though – so perhaps it might be worth clarifying from your side?
I nearly went there. Glad I didn’t.
Ordered a 65in screen and 77in wings. Fortunately, due to delays, I could re-specify and the Dealer was very helpful.
The problem was to properly visualise that a 77in screen is 1771mm wide, 65in screen is 1441mm wide. So 165mm per side for “Eclipse wings look”. The standard overhang is IIRC, 70mm on the Eclipse 65 – so twice the overhang per side. Proportions are not good now.
Also, the finish/design of the Theatre wings is somewhat unresolved being fabricated a 10/12mm thick Alu/Plastic sandwich. The Eclipse wings were substantial rounded box-section for the actual soundbar – not a thin plate hanging in space.
My advice is buy the wings you need to fit your TV or have the soundbar be smaller than the TV. Visuals are better I think?
My Eclipse 1st Gen updated automatically. The latest sw version is indeed what you see in your BV.
Have you set updates to auto or manually?
Kind regards,
Rolf
The B&O app says I have a software update available for my Eclipse mk1, but when I get to the upgrade screen, the “install now” button is greyed out and doesn’t respond to clicks. I’ve tried resetting the app and resetting the TV (unplugged and replugged). Tried with the TV on, tried with the TV off…
It’s claiming the new version is 5.3.51126
The current version is 4.1.47188
The TV reports “excellent” connectivity with the app.
Ideas?
My Eclipse now has B&O Radio working and available from both the App and Beoremote. Just had an update to the app which seemed to make it work.
Paul
Hi,
> The Wide role is possible for the Theatre’s internal speakers
This is not correct. The side-firing OR the “wide” virtual outputs can be assigned to have any speaker role, but a “wide” speaker role is not one of those options.
I realise that there may be some confusion caused by the naming of the virtual outputs as “wide” instead of “surround”, however, this was done so to overlap of the input channels’s names (the Speaker Roles) with the output channels’. You can blame me for this.
If you are placing external loudspeakers next to the Theatre (near the optimal locations for the Left Front and Right Front loudspeakers), then I would recommend that they be given these roles, and that you either choose the Centre output only for the Centre Front Speaker Role, OR use all three front-firing outputs for Cf (with some tweaking of Speaker Distances and Speaker Levels to pull things inwards a little as described in this article)
If they really are out farther (say in the region of ±60º instead of ±30º) then I would recommend setting them to Left Surround and Right Surround roles, but lying to the Theatre and telling it that these are slightly closer than they actually are. Duplicating the roles with the actual Surround loudspeakers will help to tie things together, but lying about the distance will help to pull the image back slightly.
It may be counter-intuitive, but if your input is primarily 5.0 or less, then (I know I know… it’s weird…) it is worth trying setting the loudspeakers in your “wide” locations to have “Back” speaker roles. It might not work – and it certainly won’t for 7.x.y materials – but for upmixing it isn’t necessarily a crazy idea.
I’ve done a similar setup where I had an Eclipse and two Beolab 50s as a front “3.0” system where I set the internal outputs of the Eclipse to play (from left to right): Left Surround, Centre Front, Right Surround (and the 50s playing the Left Front & Right Front, of course…) This worked well.
Could it be the case that some of the disfunctional behavior of the migration is due to the connection of the respective device with a BLC?
So far there has been no one with a proper working migration in the Eclipse. The Essence seems to migrate but not mine. It is connected with a BLC, same with my Moment. So maybe this causes a stop to the migration process somehow. Anybody else with migration trouble and in a similar set up?
Rolf
You are right Millemissen,
B&O Radio appears in the BR1 for Core and BS1 without action from myself.
Unfortunately, the Eclipse misses.
Yann.
Hello Beoworlders!
Did it too and found the same discrepancies in the naming of radio stations between TuneIn and B&O.
The migration was succesful on my BS1 and Core.
But favorites are duplicate on the list, as if each device adds it’s own favorites to the app’s list.
The B&O radio source is listed in my Gen 1 Eclipse, but I cannot add it to the BR1.
When searching in the “sources” settings of the TV, I see that B&O Radio misses the option to chose the list in which add it (TV or Music).
And when I use the app with the TV as player, I have too the message stating that the action is not available in the product.
Millemissen, how did you add B&O radio on your BR1?
Have a nice sunday,
Yann.
I had a update to my Eclipse soundcenter yesterday and went looking for changes. I noticed that B&O Radio was now a source that I can make specific changes to in the B&O App on the Eclipse. When I opened the B&O App on my phone it said I could migrate Tunein sources to B&O Radio but when I try to play a B&O Radio station I get told not supported on the chosen device, the Eclipse.
Paul
Short version = stop the hating on 17s on WiSA. It is your surroundings not the speaker reception than causes interference.
Long version = I have used WiSA with BL17s for 6 years… on Avant 55 Gen 1, Eclipse 55 Gen 1, Eclipse 55 Gen 2 and now Theatre with G2 65. The 17s are rock solid in their connection. I have 3 sets of 17s connected. My shortest distance to a 17 is 0.6m and my furthest is 6.4m (in another room). The connection quality is better since my dealer arrange for all to have the latest software update. It is my BL19 that was problematic on WiSA and had this wired, but in truth I prefer WiSA because always on, rather than me looking each time I change listening position to see if the green light appears.
Apart from N.Radio everything else works, including playing a source from my Eclipse. Actually very impressive.
very impressed with my Theatre so far, voice clarity is exceptional ; far away fro the eclipse. One issue I have; On the app one can choose to add a source to beoremote, when i do this they dont all appear? Is that my error?
I think there is a bug which i have raised with B&O support.
The App transfer enables 10 items to TV and 10 items to Music. I have found renaming a source too many times may cause it to lock-up and default to HMDI… Reset of BSTH is the only way I have found so far.
Also, the LG Player App (i.e. my DNLA network server), Amazon Music App cannot be moved to the music button.
very impressed with my Theatre so far, voice clarity is exceptional ; far away fro the eclipse.
One issue I have;
On the app one can choose to add a source to beoremote, when i do this they dont all appear? Is that my error?
I completely agree with Mr 10% if you have the eclipse mk1 , when the panel packs up its scrap.
I purchased the MK2 as my now defunct dealer told me it was ‘futureproofed’ as the LG panel is seperate, within two months the G2 panel arrived and it wont fit! so the only hope one has for the MK2 is to source a S/H G1.
The Theatre solves the problem; in a way B&O will have to keep this updated as its existence is to offer a solution to all brands.
The sound is better than the eclipse by far, for these reasons alone I am pleased with it.
My question is if it’s worth it as a standalone all in one atmos system. From the reviews the Atmos from the Theatre hasn’t been as impressive as the Sennheiser Ambeo. It sounds like it catters more to people with Beolab speakers.
Honestly, I think it is the usual story – price. These magazines want everything super-cheap and offer a subjective justification in their own way. Sennheisers advertising revenue has to be justified.
B&O has always been a lot more expensive but always comes with added extras. Think Beovisions with PUC, motorised stand and a Surround Processor compared to well…a TV panel, internal speakers on a plastic stand with a plastic remote? There is no real comparison or off-set for the added value.
The BSTH brings a lot of the typical fully-loaded Beovision features with the ability to recycle panels often. This also includes adding or re-tasking Beolabs to the system. It keeps legacy systems alive for a lot of us. Frankly – and perhaps most can determine from my rampant comments of the forum recently, I am greatly relieved for the BSTH. I was greatly concerned as to what was going to replace the Eclipse. Harmony is not may favourite design and way way too expensive for the frill of rotating screen loudspeakers. The Stage and Contour are to me, Beovision dead-ends in so far as product integration.
With the BSTH, I can also see my financial exposure to Beovisions reduce from circa +£10k every 5 year replacement (~£2k/year, may be more if parts run-out quickly – i.e. Gen1 Eclipse) to one where replacing the screen only could significantly reduce that overhead to less than £400k/yr.
People ultimately have a choice. Go buy the Sennheiser Ambeo if you feel it is “better”? As a standalone, it may well be better for you and your needs but don’t pretend these “written” reviews are in anyway objective. Most of them – including those who have done the BSTH as well as other Soundbars are Chancers with a GoPro and a mic putting out an opinion sitting in a shop.
For me, I’ve re-discovered B&O Video and I’m happy that my long-standing investments are still relevant for some time to come.
10
~Certainly more capable as a stand alone than a stand alone Eclipse / Harmony.
Indeed. The BSTH blows the Eclipse out of the water. In the 4-5years I had one, I had the soundbar muted and relied on phantom BL90 and the BL3.
As a side note, and thinking how the BSTH manages sound distribution, I think there is a good case for B&O to refresh the BL14 concept (but without the sub) i.e. a very small discrete loudspeaker set for added spatial/ATMOS ambience without dominating the viewing room more than it may already be?
Hopefully B&O are paying attention?
