[Tim]

Powerful to me meant that first of all the stage is way to limited with the distance between left an right channel. Second I feel a combination of Balances has way better bass and mid tone. We had a stage here and compared it to two Bl800 with BL11 and the old setup just sounded „better“.

I heared the Balances in a store and they sounded very good compared to BL18s.

[Tim]

The other thing is I have an offer of 3.400€ for a pair of BeoSound Balance ?

[Tim]

Thanks for all of your replies. First of all we are completely prepared for the price of adding a pair of BL18 or Balances.
Our usage of the current setup we have is 90% music listening in a multipoint setup and 10% of TV. TV means basically one show of a German crime series a week and the news. So we don‘t need Atmos, 7.1, etc.

i probably give the Theatre a second chance before a price increase 😉 would it be good for 2 channel music listening?

the BS4 would be an option but honestly we don‘t want to invest in old tech.

[Tim]

Besides the MQA discussion and weather it is the best format, a better one than standard MP3 or if it even is lossless, at least for me it looks like there is no real hi-res wireless audio with B&o, right?

 

shouldn‘t a manufacturer of speakers over 10k € per piece support the best audio formats?

I totally agree on the player side. The core is not really great and has huge limitations.

[Tim]

Hallo Zusammen,

 

ich muss auch sagen B&O hat mich mit dem Level sehr enttäuscht. Ich habe einen Level im Januar von Freunden geschenkt bekommen und habe mich zuerst sehr gefreut.

Leider bin ich vom Level und von B&O sehr enttäuscht. Ich gehe sogar soweit zu sagen das ich mich “betrogen” fühle. Ich habe nach 8 Wochen eine BeoRemote ONE koppeln wollen und musste feststellen, dass dies nicht geht. Nach einigen Chats mit dem B&O Support kam heraus das es sich bei meinem Level um die Google Voice Assistant Version handelt und ohne Aktivierung des GVA geht kein Bluetooth. Ich finde es schon sehr komisch das einige Funktionen nicht gehen, wenn man kein Google aktiviert. Auf meine Nachfrage ob ich gegen einen gebrauchten/refurbished Level ohne GVA tauschen könnte sagte man nur die Umtauschfrist ist erloschen. Auf der Seite von B&O ist es leider nicht ersichtlich das nicht alles ohne GVA funktioniert und das ist schon extrem enttäuschend. ich bin mir sicher ich bin nicht der einzige. Zudem hat der Level massive Software Probleme. WLAN bricht ständig ab. Der Level vergisst ständig die Einstellungen, muss im monatlichen Zyklus redetet werden, Buttons gehen plötzlich nicht, etc.

 

Für mich war das die letzte Erfahrung mir B&O. Schade eigtl. da wir gerade einen neuen Fernseher und neue Lautsprecher kaufen wollten (7.1). Naja. So gehen wir auf Sonos und kaufen noch nen kleinen Flitzer von der Kohle.

[Tim]

Hi Lee & Keith,

 

first of all big thank you and cheers to both of you. You do and have done an amazing job for an extremely long time with this forum. I can totally understand your reasons about the price drab but I think this is a good time to change some things.

First of all I think the price draw is great and should stay in one or another way. Second I think this could be the time to rethink things and restructure some things. Why? Because B&O changed, people on the forum changed and as you said things for yourself changed. Perhaps this could be the time for Beoworld 3.0? I mean the current Beoworld is amazing but perhaps people want something different.

These are things I could think about (just some brainstorming).

• General things
  • Where will the forum be hosted in future?
  • How much will this cost
  • What will be the core system of the forum? WordPress etc.
• Manpower
  • Is there enough admins to handle everything?
  • Can some people help with certain things without full admin rights?
• Financing the forum
  • Are the current levels of membership the right ones?
    • What differentiates these levels?
    • level cost – will more people be willing to join the silver level if it is cheaper?
  • Ads on the page?
    • Perhaps bronze level will have ads on the page and all other levels only the sponsor and no ads?
  • sponsorships
  • b&o affiliate store? If members buy from a Beoworld affiliate store (or b&o partner store) they get a free gold membership?
• Content
  • What content do people expect?
  • new categories/structure for the forum? Something Like Home Automation
  • Perhaps there is a differentiation between old and new b&o stuff?

 

These are just the 2 thoughts I had while walking the baby. I think in general the one or other poll would help to get numbers behind those questions.

 

In general I thing neither you or Keith should be paying a cent for this page as you donate us all so much of your free time. Thanks for your amazing work!

[Tim]

@trackbeo

Thanks for your hint. But honestly I did let the black rubber protectors on the Level as I kind of like the look with them ? reduces the gold a bit.

 

[Tim]

Upgraded some parts of the house with new speakers. The Emerge is an amazing speaker for smaller rooms and the Level is perfect for rooms where a portable speaker is needed.

[Tim]

Hi MusicMan,

 

we also added one BeoSound Emerge during the holiday season to our speakers in the house. Meanwhile we have 2 stereo sets of them and a total of 6 spread in all sorts of rooms.

the Emerge is a fantastic speaker by itself but if you add a second one for stereo setup they are amazing.
the best tip is to buy them with your dealer and arrange a return if you don‘t like them. You will end up buying more of them in the end 😉

 

like Steve said they are extremely good balanced and hard to beat at low and mid volume. I think they are way better than a pair of Levels.

[Tim]

Thanks for all of your replies. After weeks of digging and searching I finally found the problem.

It was one faulty cable that sometimes worked and sometimes did not. After replacing the cable everything is now working.

I am very grateful for all of your help!

[Tim]

I have setup everything correctly (in my opinion). Is this a problem when the NL/ML is not connected directly to the BeoVision but is connected through the ML Distributor?

 

This are my setting:

BeoLivingroom is the Core in the Livingroom 😉

[Tim]

Hi Jo,

what I found out so far is that I have to change something on the NL/ML Converter. I use the core as an audio source for radio, AirPlay and a vinyl player. The NL/ML converter is setup as audio master.

I just began programming the Masterlink Gateway and I can see all Networklink Products and the BeoVision. I can‘t see the NL/ML Converter.
Sending a command to the BeoVision via Gateway works without problems. So cables, ML Distributor and BeoVision seem to work. Do I still need the NL/ML converter in this setup or can I program the Gateway so it plays Radio from the BeoSound Core?

 

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