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Mr10Percent wrote:

The only issue I have (BL90 plus 3pairs of BL3s) is the boot time for the 90s to click online and to form the latency. probably 2-3 seconds max

That is pretty normal, I guess.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Millemis]

Probably because you can ask Google to wake you up ?

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Det eneste du skal bruge er en adapter fra RJ45 til hun-DIN Powerlink, hvor du så sætter dine eksisterende kabler i.

You will need a RJ45/PL to 8pin DIN/PL adapter.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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The Playmaker is imo an overlooked device!

However, if you are able to….please run that with a wired ethernet connection to your router.

They should be cheap – but maybe hard to find…..depending on your location.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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My BST was updated a couple of days ago (the SW was pushed).

As of today – when opening the app – I was told the it had been regularly/automatic updated……to the same version ?

Anyway…..this time the new features/news were stated in the app (I made a screenshop just in case that could not be found again later on).
Only the new features are listed – no talk of bug fixes.

I can’t say whether the issue with the tiny sound from tv (tuner in LG) was fixed, since I generally do not use the BST on it’s own.
I made a test playing from tv with only BST – that sounded ok to me.
I guess testing on an only BST setup and with the new SW will be needed (@Sandyb).

This is how it looks in my case, when playing from the LG tuner/DVB-T.
This might be different for other users.

By the way…….changing from eARC to ARC in the LG settings made a difference in the perceived sound on the Theatre alone.
Since I only use the tuner of the LG and no apps, I have mine in the ARC setting now.
Would be nice to hear about this from others.

 

P.S. After the update I have a ‘new issue’.
Testing around I noticed that – when returning from a multi speaker ‘group’ to the BST alone – it takes up to 7 seconds to get sound.
The other way ‘round sound is immediately there.
Not a problem in our daily use cases, but weird anyway.

Also – just in case you experience this – I had crackling noices from the BST after updating.
A reboot (through the app) solved this.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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The biggest difference between the two is the missing support for NL/Beolink Multiroom with the MK1.

I would be nice, it someone with daily use of the MK1 could state, whether it still supports TuneIn (I assume it does, but it needs to be verified).
It will surely not be updated to B&O Radio.

Also the support for Spotify Connect could be important (at least for some users).
Whether it supports AP2, I do not know.

For a simple standalone use regular AP in the MK1 or the Playmaker will be ok – in case someone relies on AP2 for multiroom, the AirPort Express would be the better choice.
If you are looking towards integrating with further newer B&O devices the MK2 should be your choice.

I am pretty sure that there is no CC support anymore on the MK1 – (this also seems to be the case with the MK2).

 

It will be easier to connect the BL9’s with the MK1/2 than with the APE. Also the Playmaker is better for this.

If you need remote controlling/Beo4, the Playmaker works out of the box.
The MK1/2 both need an attached ir-eye for this – alternatively you can use the Essence Remote.
With the APE you in any case will have to rely on the volume control of the app/the device from where you are airplaying.
This can imo be a bit fiddly – it is not very sensitive/precise for a set of BL9’s.

There is (kind of) support in the B&O app for the Playmaker – I’d guess for the MK1 too (?).
Full support for the MK2.

Would be nice if someone else could chime in here with the actual features of the MK1 as of today.

In case the MK1 still support TuneIn, if one needs that and likewise Spotify Connect, the MK1 – with an ir-eye/Beo4 or the Essence Remote – could be fine choice for a standalone setup with the BL9’s.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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In case you haven’t seen this….

Beosystem 3300 Guide

The BM3300 has the amp built-in.
So all you need is to connect the Rogers to the Beomaster Speaker 1 output.
For this you will need 2 x 2-pin DIN plugs like these:

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Sure ?

Page 15 and onwards

MM

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[Millemis]

Look here – page 9

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Since you will only play CD’s from the 9000, you can use the digital output there (a coax to optical converter is needed)……means a (thin) cable is needed ?
Otherweise follow the instructions from Steve regarding the PL dummy plug.

Volume will be regulated in the 28’s.

Also…..your dealer should know about this.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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@Mr10

I tried both with the ATV.
I had it first as ‘always on’ (like with my privious BV) then to test it as ‘same as’.
Now it again is ‘always on’.
No changes there.

The PUC for my Blu Ray player is ‘when changing sources’ – since that is more seldom used and is likely to use more standby power.

P.S.
I wonder if people who do not use PUC’s, have these issues???

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Anyone tried this with the BST?

Of course you can have more than one BROne connected to the BST.
But can these each have seperate MyButtons or do they share the same?

Could be handy if you e.g. have a seperate seating for just listening to music with the setup – then you could have radio stations/playlists/linked CD player on a BROne there, whilst you on the other BROne have some for the video content at another place.

If not, that would be a feature, that I’d like to request.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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@Sandyb

Sorry to tell you, that this does not seem to make any difference.

I did disable CEC (in the two PUC-controlled devices and in the app) a while ago, after having had contacted the Costumer Care/DK.

(All 3 connected devises are on the BST)

It is very hard to describe the behaviour of the BST, since this happens pretty randomly.
The last few days it seems not to happen, if you use the same device day after day – as soon as you have used another (PUC-controlled) device or the internal tuner in between, it can happen again.
(Please note – I am not 100% certain that this is the cause).

Meanwhile I have ordered two CEC Blockers for the PUC’ed devices….which also was adviced by the Support team.
I haven’t come to connecting these, since I was waiting for the next update to see if that would change anything.
However as of today still no update here.

My wife is sour and irritated ?
She keeps asking, why we had to get a new tv….the old one (an Avant 1st gen) worked perfectly.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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ebnrob wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

@ebnrob ‘number key presses not being relayed to joined speakers or masterlink’ Could you please explain what that means – an example would be helpfull. MM

Hi MM, this was the problem I had which is now fixed in the newest firmware v2.1.51691:

I’ve discovered that I cannot use the number pad in a link room after joining. For example, if TuneIn is playing on my M5 and I join my A9 mk4 to it, I can’t select presets using the number pad on the BR1 (BT) in the link room. This also means I can’t select the CD playing, or directly change FM radio station on my BS9000 via the NL/ML converter. I’m not sure if it’s an issue with the BR1 that’s also received a Firmware update, or the speakers.

Thanks for explaining.
I haven’t noticed anything of that kind with my Essence – maybe this is because my user behaviour is different?

I have – as of today – an M5, which I haven’t set up yet……wonder which version that will have.
Usually both devices have the same SW, or?

The firmware of all my Essences is lower than what you mention for the M5.
I wonder if the Essence will be updated too – but maybe only the M5 was affected (which is unlikely).

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Just tried casting to one of my Essence MK2’s.

This did not work and kind of locked the Essence – it became unresponsive and showed as offline.
Before I managed to get to the power cable, it rebootet itself.

Chromecast version is 1.28.102057/sw of device is 2.1.50867.
It seems it does not support CC anymore.

Luckily I hardly ever use CC for audio, so not a big deal.
However, I have a CC Audio dongle somewhere, which I could connect to the line-in.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Just for the record….
I guess you have set up the Core/BL5 as in this instruction (I know of no other method).

48kHz isn’t exactly what is concidered ‘audiophile quality’.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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@ebnrob
‘number key presses not being relayed to joined speakers or masterlink’

Could you please explain what that means – an example would be helpfull.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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appeardk wrote:

For now I have just connected the BL5s directly to the Theatre as that solves everything (once I have a USB-C to Line-in so I can hook up the Mac mini). I did some A/B testing with Coax vs. PL from the Theatre and I must say it’s not as bad as I feared. Maybe the PL output from the Theatre is somehow better.

Trying a direct connection of the 5’s to the Theatre is what I suggested a while ago – in order to find out how they then will sound.
The USB- adapter might solve your problem (if you can cope with the fact that you then will introduce some AD/DA convertion along the way).
I suppose that you’d want to connect your Mac Mini there.
So why not just use the HDMI for that?
Also the built in Chromecast Audio in the BST can function as a Roon endpoint (just for testing ?).
Furthermore you could use the built in Chromecast function of the (LG)tv this way
How cool is that ?
Only some lenghty listening tests can tell, whether you like what you hear or not!

For time being there is no way to connect a BS Core to the BST – no matter wired or wireless…….like it was with previous BV’s like the Avant/BV11 etc.
However, you can join in/expand to/from what is playing through the Core using the Bang & Olufsen app (maybe that will be solved in a future update?).

In your case you don’t really need the Core – unless you want to keep on using the Coax/PL connection to the 5’s as of now.
I am pretty sure that involving the BST there won’t work – but a test will do no harm.

The BST can ‘work magic’ with the connected speakers once set up properly (using Room Sense).

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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For how this works, have a look here:
PL to minijack cable

It will always be a risk to buy these older devices – look for the later versions – are you willing to take this risk,,,,,,because it is ‘beautiful’.
If you just want the funcionality of listening to CD’s, you could just connect the L/R output of a regular CD player (or maybe a Beogram CD 3500/4500, which has touch controls) to the line in of one of the newer devices.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Firstly – yes, you can connect a BS9000 to these newer NL-based devices.
But you can not do it wireless.

If you want to do it the right way – and maintain remote controlling with the newer devices – you will have to use the NL/ML Converter.
This means a ML cable from the 9000 to the Converter and an ethernet cable to your router/local network.
The newer devices, that you mention, can all be used wireless (wifi/local network).

Another way to get sound into the NL networket devices could be to use a powerlink cable from the 9000 to the line-in port of one of the NL devices,
This would allow for the sound to be distributed to the other devices as well.
But it means controlling the 9000 seperately as usual (except for volume).

So it all dependson the degree of integration, that you would wish for.

You won’t come around using ‘wire’ either way.

A proper B&O dealer should be able to explain this more in detail.
However, you must know that the Converter is not being sold new anymore (should be available second hand)….…..and some dealers don’t even know how this works anymore.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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