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You’ve got the answers, you’ve got the schematics, you’ve got the value, that’s all the tutorial you’ll need.
Hello, please and thank you would have been welcome also.

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Hi everyone,

I would like to keep investigating. I’d like to try different source of power but to help the process and remove the variables I’d like to know how the thermal protection works.

If I want to remove it for my tests how do I mimic it? Do I need to short it (Meaning red wire and white wire connected together) or just remove it (meaning white wire disconnected?

Thank to anyone who can help.

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Too bad! Thank you for looking.
(It would be nice and useful to launch a thread on these Beo4 screen fault and find solution! I still dont understand when the fault is before or after the gummy band…).

Enjoy the beer!

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Guy wrote:

the only fault was a damaged screen – it displayed fine but had damage in the corner.

Wouldn’t it be possible to repair the screen? I don’t remember well how they’re made and what cause the leaking, but if it can be removed and the glass repaired, that would made a better remote that one with a missing line of pixel or very dimmed digits.

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Hi Xavieritzmann,

Did you have the main charger plugged all that time?
By now all batteries would be dead or weak at the best and as you said, I wouldn’t trust too much a 10€ battery. This added to the fact that you already had charging issues before, I wouldn’t say that the A3 is dead yet.

Do you have a way to borrow an iPad 1 or 2 to check A3 in its normal condition, then assess the battery health and then, once you know, play with the adapter? I feel like you have too many “variables” in your equation  there.

It is possible the A3 is faulty, but I think its a solid piece of hardware so, I would insist a little more to bring it back to life.

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Exactly.

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solderon29 wrote:

Is Ouverture 4000 a model?

C’mon, I think we can be forgiving there, Bang & Olufsen being the first to have numerous confusing model names, right?

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Follow Dillen’s advice has always proved to be te way to go…

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Maybe it worth asking Keith if he have any manual related to the A3.
I think the A3 is a very delicate thing to open, not that delicate actually but the chances to harm the aluminium trims are there, so no ay to look inside to see any markings on the PCB.

Here is the picture of a 1.0.4.0 SW A3.

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And I suppose this tester can also serve as Ethernet network tester wit the right “reversed” adapter too.

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Guy wrote:

I remember using IPA

You use… Beer?   😉

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All right, thank you both of you.

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This surface coating, very “à la mode” in the nineties, always turn into a sticky mess.
I won’t hesitate to call this one of the major industrial fails of that era!

Now, I can’t answer on large surfaces even more if yo can’t take appart the part, but I’ve stripped it of a Beosound 3 wall mount, leaving it satin black where it was before velvet mat black. If I remember well I did this rubbing the coating with warm water.

They are various articles on the web about coating again the part with “Plastic-dip’ paint.
Often Beosound 4 and Beolab 3.

Luckily the back of my Beocenter 6 doesn’t show any sign of stickiness but I’m afraid it won’t last forever.

 

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So, One A3 is SW 1.0.4.0 and the other is 1.0.0.0.
Trying to check for update leads to an error.

I didn’t notice any different behavior from one to the other.

Both iPad charge up to 100% (Actually, the iPad 1 charge to 99% but I believe this is an iPad issue).

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XavierItzmann wrote:

it only wants to charge the iPad if the iPad has less than about 60% battery.

Idiotic guessing: couldn’t this be caused by a change of nature or capacity in new iPads?

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XavierItzmann wrote:

I don’t have a USB to RJ-45 interface cable to update via the connector in the battery compartment of the A3.

I dont remembrer it was any RJ45 connector in the battery compartment. Are you sure of that ? To me it wouldn’t make sense since the A3 is not a connected device. Also because there is no way to easily access the battery compartment : you have to unglue the plastic sheet in the center of the cradle.

My A3s are charging right now, I’ll tell you about the software version as soon as they wake up.

What I wonder is if they the A3 would be more convenient without the battery. When you plug it, it seems to charge the iPad first and then the A3 battery. This means that when your iPad is full and the A3 low (red light)n then it is when the iPad is not responsive. Maybe if We take the battery out it will act like any other charging dock and work as soon as the iPad is docked.

I’ve seen replacement batteries are available for around 40€ but the thing is that I don’t trust too much batteries that are sold now for devices from another age: you never know for how long they have been stored.

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Can new members, just ask politely, say “hello”, “please” (in full letters) and “thank you”?

That said, because I’ve not BL6000 I can not design the clamps. But outrageously expensive solutions solution exists around, so that’s possible.

Nothing to do with your question but it nevertheless allows me to talk about it:
Somebody, is selling wooden grills with that design on classified ads and it unfortunately  happens to be in the town close to where I live. Easy to recognize them as they use the very same wood bits than the one on this site: squared front, half rounded sides, Bulk and curvature of the whole grid all the same…

Thats ok, I gave them away, if people is more ‘entrepreneur’ than me, all good to them.

But if anybody comes with a similar solution for Beolab 6000, I’d like it give it away for free for forum members.

Beoworld gives, and you gives to Beoworld.

That’s the way.

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XavierItzmann wrote:

(a capacitor or somesuch?)

I hate those capacitors, they really turning our lives into a continuous nightmare….  😉

XavierItzmann wrote:

Is there a way of finding out what the software version on the A3 is?

The Beosetup App. but if I remember well, they are not that much SW version and they do not bring anything obviously useful.

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Bonjour Jeff et bienvenue sur Beoworld.

À priori, mais ce n’est qu’un avis naif, je ne vois pas pourquoi ça ne pourrait pas fonctionner.
Selon moi, on entend une enceinte quelle que soit sa position. Mais j’ai l’oreille peu sensible et je ne suis pas très délicat non plus.

Ceci étant dit, un puriste pourrais dire que le tweeter des BL6000 se trouve presque à mi-hauteur de l’enceinte, ce qui fait que pour des 6000 accrochée au plafond il risque d’être environ 50-60 cm au dessus du niveau moyen de l’oreille lorsqu’on est assis.

Est ce que ça ruine “l’experience” ? je ne sais pas, je dirais que non mais encore une fois je ne suis pas très initié.

Je tenterai avec les enceintes sur des tables ou meme carrément avec des amis qui les tiendraient à bout de bras à l’envers, juste pour voir (entendre).

Donc en résumé, ça depend beaucoup de votre exigence.

Techniquement, je pense que ça ne pas leur faire que du bien : les BL6000 ont comme toutes les Beolab de cette époque des mousse internes qui se décomposent et finissent par fondre sur l’électronique avec pour consequence de grignoter les circuits imprimés. Les avoir à l’envers fait que la mousse désagrégée ne tombera plus sur l’électronique, la préservant ainsi.

Dernière chose, il existe d’autres Beolab qui sont plus pratique à installer en enceintes arrières : Les 3 est leur support mural, les 4000 avec leur accroches au plafond ou au mur, les 4 aussi, discrète et facile à suspendre.

 

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Hi everybody,

At XavierItzmann, Thats a nice project and it will be good that if could upgrade that lovely system and make it life for years more. I’m looking forward what you’ll find.

I have two A3’s, one has an iPad 1 64Go and works basically as a giant iPod with built in (B&O) speakers. The other one has an iPad 3 and is used as a mobile Beovision: I use it to watch through VLC, movies or tvshows streaming from the main media server.

Honestly I can’t say that they are the most useful piece of B&O hardware I use today. Its more like Millemissen said, nostalgia (appart from the giant iPod that is use on vacations).

Nevertheless, I’ve notice a small issue thought: when the iPad and the A3 are low on battery (you never actually know how charged is the A3 battery…), the touch function of the iPad become erratic. You have to let it plugged for a while before it start to behave like it should again (on both A3’s with different iPads).

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