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MadskpGOLD MemberThe setup manuals for OneRemote’s latest devices just show the code to make the OneRemote respond to the PC source key, without saying whether this is received directly (IR to OneRemote) or indirectly via the PCSNUT.
It says that indirectly as it is a direct mode code.
Also the description in you manual is that it is a setup for a link room which I read as part of a link system, and therefor the masterlink signals will be in use, hence the Oneremote radio can not be an audio master in that context.
What we don’t know is if there has been some update og Oneremotes products that is not described in the setup manuals we can find.
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MadskpGOLD MemberI found this setup manual from Oneremote https://doc.oneremote.dk/Vejledninger/30012002S5dk.pdf Only in Danish though.
On page 27 it describes that it can be connected to the PC connector in all Link rooms which does not correspond with my theory about it acting like and audio Master.
However the setup is also described as direct mode which is via an IR reciever, so there might not be any data connection in place. That makes sense when used in a Masterlink system with other unit.
It does however not explain how it should be used with the Beolink Active as a stand alone unit which as far as I know does not work under normal circumstances
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MadskpGOLD MemberOne other thing that intrigues me is that some OneRemote documentation implies that the BL Active can be used stand-alone with the OneRemote radio as an input – look at the ‘tip’ in the diagram below: I wonder if the adaptor cable does something funny to make stand-alone operation possible?
Yes thats intriguing. Looking at the adapter itself (PCSNUT) https://shop.oneremote.dk/shop/69053-oneremote-/4271-pcsnut-adaptor-cable/ it doesn’t seem like something special, and based on our knowledge about the ASNUT and VSNUT adapters from Oneremote they are just passive adapters.
I wonder if the setup manual describes a speciel setup code for this setup?
My best guess is that this setup could change the signals from the Oneremote radio from datalink to Masterlink. We already know it can change between the two different datalink formats.
If it does change the signals to Masterlink then the Beolink active will get a Masterlink signal from the Oneremote radio via the PC DIN connector which as mentioned earlier has its data pins directly connected to the Masterlink connector. If the Oneremote radio the work as a Audio Master it should be sufficient to drive the Beolink Active.
Hope this makes sense
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MadskpGOLD MemberAnd of course we still don’t have the service manual for the Beolink Active 1636
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MadskpGOLD MemberGuy wrote: “PC-Socket” on BeoLink Active 1636 – pin configuration – (Source: BeoWise) 1. SL-config 2. LEFT IN 3. Left out 4. RIGHT IN 5. Right out 6. Data – 7. GROUND / SHIELD 8. Data + So my first question before I start experimenting: Does anyone know what pins 1, 6 and 8 are for? I can confirm that these connections are correct. Data – and Data + are the differential data lines and are the same as pin 1 & 2 on the Masterlink socket. The SL_config works like the ML_config in defining direction of data.
Hawing done som continuity Measurements inside the Beolink Active I can confirm that the data pins and the SL_config Pin has direct connections to the Masterlink connector as follows, and must be Masterlink data in a DIN connector.
Pin 1 SL-config is Masterlink ML sense
Pin 6 Data – is Masterlink Data –
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MadskpGOLD MemberLooking at the PCB drawing in the servicemanual the burnt spot could look like its above a diode. The diode could be shorted, but it could also have affected other components. The Diode is in the part of the circiut that amplifies the data signal
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MadskpGOLD MemberI will do some testing when I have time this week. There have been unsuccessful attempts to use BL Active stand-alone in the past, such as here: https://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/t/31173.aspx My BL Actives are all SW1.1.
I will try that too. I have both a SW 1.1 and 1.6 as far as I remember.
One thing I will try to test is if it will run with a BLC 1614 connected on Masterlink, just to check if a Audio- or videmoster is required, or if its just the presence of Masterlink voltage, and or signals
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MadskpGOLD MemberOn a related subject, I do want to do some further experiments with the BL Active’s PC input at some stage. I know audio L & R go to PC pins 2 & 4 but I wondered about pins 6 and 8 and whether they could be used for datalink (or AAL) control of a local source. PC input pins as listed in this thread: https://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/p/15997/281594.aspx
According to Keiths post here https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beolink-active-1636-pc-input/#post-14712 those are Masterlink data. More so I can confirm that as I have done some continuity measurements at one point where I found that there is a direct connection between the data pins in the PC 8 pin DIN connector and the data pins in the Masterlink connector. I will do an update of that other thread with this observation as I for some reason never got around to do that.
However I have also been thinking what could be don with that port, and maybe some kind of adapter to take the sound from the PC DIN and if usefull the data from a Powerlink connector as they sometimes use the same datalines as MCL/AAL connections.
Might get arround to do some more digging into that subject in that other thread
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MadskpGOLD MemberI am at my parents house at the moment, and looking into their Apple TV the remote seems to be the 3rd generation with USB-C and sw. 0X33.
It does turn on their Beoplay V1, and do control the volume. However the volume function seems to be stuck somehow so it will keep turning up the volume even if I turn of the TV volume functions in the ATV settings. I will have to look into a way to reset the Siri remote to see if this behavior does continue.
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MadskpGOLD MemberOh yes that was the function of the ASNUT adapter from Oneremote that was discussed in the beginning of this thread.
To make your adapter/Switchbox really universal you could make data connections to both pin 6 and 7 at the input end.
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MadskpGOLD MemberNice little project for making easier to use dual inputs to the BL1611. And also the design is more interesting than another black box.
I am just wondering why you are using pin 7 as datapin on the 2 inputs? Is that what the oneremote radio is using?
For other AAL compatible connections like the MCL2AV or a Beomaster/Beocenter/Beovision the data is on pin 6.
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MadskpGOLD MemberOk, now I understand. I thought you meant that it should be possible to have both a Beogram and the Oneremote radio connected to the BC2300 at the same time and send audio commands to both
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MadskpGOLD MemberGuy wrote: It can even use both these pins at the same time if both a Beogram and BL1611 are connected using a Y-adaptor. Yes, but not sure that you are able to use a audio source command for the BL1611 in that case? At least it’s not possible on the ouverture.
Just remembered that the Ouverture has Masterlink and the BC2300 has Audio Aux Link, so each connect a different way to the BL1611, so different setups.
However I’ am still not sure if the BC2300 will be able to send audio source commands to the Audio Aux Link Pin 6 as well as the Data link Pin 7, but it would be nice if I can be proven wrong
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MadskpGOLD MemberIt can even use both these pins at the same time if both a Beogram and BL1611 are connected using a Y-adaptor.
Yes, but not sure that you are able to use a audio source command for the BL1611 in that case? At least it’s not possible on the ouverture
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MadskpGOLD MemberSo I assume from the above (particularly the last sentence) that ‘Datalink MCL’ is the same as ‘Audio Aux Link’ since that is the only data connection that the BL1611 supports. I am tempted to start a separate ‘OneRemote Digital Radio Solutions’ thread if there are other users out there?
I agree on your assumption about Datalink MCL being the same as Audio Aux Link based on our findings in some of the other threads. Also looking at diagrams for Beomasters/Beocenters with MCL capability the data pins are on the same connections as the TV/Aux sockets Pin 6, which is also what is used to communicate to Beolink converters 1611 and 1614 .
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MadskpGOLD MemberProblem to see the version at one of the 3500… Was justed displayed for some milliseconds… But the other showed me ver 1.1
This is one of the early software versions, and could have some issues, but the fact the fact that the speakers can’t do those simple things without going to standby sound like some kind of hardware fault.
Just to be sure, do you have any other B&O Masterlink equipment you could try to connect to them to test if they will work in a Masterlink setup?
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MadskpGOLD MemberI just tried it on my own BL3500 just to see if I could replicate this behaviour, but it just stays on when CD; radio etc. are choosen, and it also stays on in the MCL mode until I press a button.
A long shot could you cehck the software version of the speaker by pressing Menu, 0, 0, go?
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MadskpGOLD MemberI can see that the 3500 seems to shut off if I select radio or tv or someels input after a short while. So maybe some generell problem on my system… not just when I try to choose mcl input
Yes, sound like something is forcing it to go to standby.
One thing you could test if you want to do a little disassembly is to remove the speaker freets and the unscrew the plastic cover in front of the display. There are a touch buttons for timer and mute/standby, and maybe the standby button could be the culprit
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MadskpGOLD MemberOk that sounds strange, especially when you have two units with the same behaviour.
On thing that comes to mind is if anything is emitting IR signals. Do you have any other B&O equipment in the room?
Or maybe a lamp that emmits light in the same frequency spectrum. Have you tried with all lams turned off?
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MadskpGOLD MemberI can say for sure that no trigger signal or special cable is needed for the Menu, 0, 4, go mode to work.
If I understand your first post correctly the BL3500 will just go to standby a few seconds after pressing the key combination? Or are you touching any buttons on the BL3500 or the remote?
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