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In answer to your questions: Yes and Yes.
Or you can buy replacement screens from https://www.avaservices.co.uk/
There was a post in the old forum explaining how to replace. I’ll try to find it later.
EDIT: Here: https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/21827/180453.aspx#180453
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Hi and welcome to Beoworld!
On one of the working phones, go to ‘Settings’, then ‘Base’ then ‘Remove Handset’. Then scroll through to find the handset you with to remove and select.
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Thanks for the interesting info Peter – I presume that you mean the one described and pictured on the site at this link: https://beoworld.org/beogram-4001/
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+1 for Harrods. Co-incidentally a friend of mine is there today, knows my interest and just sent these photos:
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It will not work. The “old” and “new” datalink systems are not compatible. Martin
Thanks @Dillen (and everyone else). I agree despite my earlier incorrect post!
I have just been revisiting my Chrome history to try to work out why I thought otherwise. I did see a paragraph taken from a ‘Beolink’ article the old forum which stated: The idea of electronic sensi-touch controls did away with old-fashioned buttons and other mechanical ways of controlling your equipment and paved the way for the first true ‘Datalink’ product: Beogram 4004. Clearly I took this too literally and didn’t investigate further, or even read fully the ‘datalink’ page that I linked – many apologies.
@Peter – no need to run the test! 😀
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Hi and welcome to Beoworld! The BC9500 is a great first purchase.
First thing to check is simple: Are you sure that there isn’t a 3.5mm to 1/4 inch adaptor in the headphone socket? Sounds silly but this mistake has been made many times in the past!
EDIT: But if the headphone output has the same problem this is unlikely – apologies!
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As far as I know it would work with both. I have had a read of this and cannot see any limitations for either of those setups mentioned: https://beoworld.org/datalink/
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There’s lots of advice about Bs3 versions in ArchivedForum2 so it’s well worth having a search – threads like this: https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/38155/290365.aspx
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While I knew there were different versions of the BS3 I did not realise they might have different connection types for the IR eye, so I’ll keep that in mind while looking for one – thanks.
This link shows both SCART and component versions, and would appear to have IR-in connections for both types that I mentioned: https://thegogglesdonothing.com/images/beosystem3.jpg
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As far as I know there are two versions of IR eye for the BS3 (neither has lettering):
- Auto-contrast version has 7 connectors inside and is fitted with a 9-pin serial plug for connection to BS3
- Non-auto-contrast version has 5 connectors inside, only three of which are used and connect to the BS3 via a 3.5mm ‘headphone type’ plug.
I’m guessing that different versions of the BS3 need (or work with) different versions of IR eye.
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Hi Peter,
Good to hear from you – I assume from your post that you are the ‘Peter’ from the second post in this archived thread: https://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/t/35259.aspx
… with an impressive 9,572 posts on that forum alone!
I do of course remember you from my early days on Beoworld – I think your earlier avatar also showed a dog but I may be wrong. I certainly valued your inputs back then and am honoured to be following in your footsteps as a moderator (and possibly ‘golden oldie’) today.
With regard to ‘founder member’ status, I think that should still be valid and showing against your name regardless of current membership level – perhaps @Multicare could make the necessary amendments?
Regards Guy
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It is shift and then radio, not shift and radio at the same time.
Yes, that’s what I said! 😀 (but as madskp says, PHONO is just one button press hence easier if you are happy for PHONO to show in the display)
any way to turn off the lights in the back while it’s on?
No
any idea if the unit has a sleep timer?
Yes but only whilst playing RADIO. Press STOP until the required number of minutes shows in the display.
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Or press SHIFT then RADIO
(but I agree that PHONO should work too 😀)
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I can confirm that the datalink signal from Powerlink passes through to MCL, and that MCL2AV works with two way remote when connected to a BC9300 (tested directly through MCL/speaker 2)
Thanks for that confirmation – it’s definitely worth trying once I have time and have found all the components!
However that got me looking in the user manual for the BC2300 and I can see mentiong of a stop time where you can choose to stop playback after a certain amount of time. The fact that it has this functionality must mean that it has some clock circitry to make that work. However this does not need a clock showing that correct time to work.
I hadn’t noticed that STOP (sleep) timer in the manual – that a bit like the old BS1 where there is a STOP timer in both the older (no clock) and newer (clock) versions. So yes it must have some clock circuitry.
But it is confusing that it shows the wrong time on a connected link speaker. Have you tried to connect it via 1611 and ML to see if it shows the same behaviour?
Yes, I first noticed that the time was displayed when I connected by Powerlink for that ‘trigger’ test on the other thread. I then connected in the normal manner (Aux to BL1611 to BL3500) and the time showed in the same way. I also tried the BL3500 with my older two-way (clock version) BC2300 and the time would also start/refresh on the hour. Again I couldn’t adjust the time due to being unable to find Beolink 5000.
Sadly I have to leave it for now!
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Subsequent posts about showing time on the BL3500 moved to new thread here: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/displaying-time-on-beolab-3500/
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I have decided to put my BL3500 time display investigations on hold – grandson visiting this week hence study/workbench reverts to spare bedroom. I have unplugged the power from the BL3500 several times, and each time I reconnect it has to wait until ‘on the hour’ to start showing the clock again (consistently 7 hours and 20 minutes behind British Summer time). This time signal can only be coming from the BC2300.
Hence I don’t have time to take the back off the BC2300 and put it in service mode – I am not sure that this would reset the hidden clock anyway. I think maybe quickly shorting out the backup battery (while the unit is unplugged from mains) may well reset the clock, but might also clear the FM offset, and it was a bit tricky to reset this when I replaced the battery so I’ll give that a miss.
But that got me thinking: If there is a hidden clock/timer in the newer one-way IR BC2300, then perhaps B&O just got rid of the two-way IR circuitry, hence it’s impossible to adjust the clock or set a timer with the Beolink 5000 remote? However, MCL equipment does support 2-way IR. So what about connecting my BC2300 via PowerLink to a BeoLink passive (ML/MCL converter) and connect the speaker terminals by MCL cable to an MCL2A (or 2AV) plus IR sensor, and then see if I can use my Beolink 5000 to adjust the time?
I had a quick look at the circuit diagrams and can follow the BC2300 PowerLink pin 6 (also Aux pin 6) to the extra ‘MCL’ pin on the Passive’s Left speaker terminal, and then all the way to the data connection between MCL2A and its IR sensor, so perhaps there is a way to shortcut this process by connecting an MCL IR sensor direct to the BC2300 to give two-way IR?
Anyway, I had a very quick look through my B&O box pile and haven’t a clue where my Beolink 5000 is, so any of the above tests are a non starter until I have time to find that. More to follow!
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I will now test my theory by connecting my BL3500 to my BV10-32 TV and leave running until
1300hrs1400hrs (delayed by faulty ML cable!) to see what happens!It didn’t work! Perhaps the BV10-32 (as a videomaster) doesn’t send the time over ML – possibly because it doesn’t have it’s own clock but relies upon the time carried by the DTV signal)
It would be interesting to hear if BC8500 or Beoport/Beolink PC2 do send/update the BL3500 time after being left for a full hour.
I am re-connecting my BL3500 to the BC2300 and might later try a system reset to set the clock to 0000 – but I think this just clears the radio presets on the BC2300. We’ll see!
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So I have just done one experiment! I unplugged the BL3500 and then plugged it in again. The time disappeared and I couldn’t get it to return.
So I left it running (actually playing radio) and the time magically appeared on the hour, to show exactly 1900hrs.
So perhaps the ‘hidden’ clock (in my BC2300) sends a time update over ML (actually over AAL -> BL1611 -> ML) every hour on the hour?
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Since Millemissen is curious as to why, not that it matters, at my end, I’m trying to undo Multiroom and then re-set it up as I’m not seeing the same image I saw earlier with the first set up in my B&O app.
How about a factory reset of the Essence? – this is explained in the relevant instruction manual, available here: https://support.bang-olufsen.com/hc/en-us/articles/360038206612-User-Guides-and-Software-Downloads
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So, it does seem that the time can only be got from an audio master. In your case though it doesn’t explain how it is getting an incorrect time from an audio master that doesn’t have a clock!
The older version of BC2300 (curved laser tracking, two-way IR) has a built in clock/timer, so perhaps the clock software was left in the newer version (not unheard of for B&O) but is inaccessible.
Now I’m imagining you resetting it at midnight, but twice a year due to UK daylight savings…
I did consider that! 😀 (but I do also have an older BC2300 with the clock/timer, plus a two way remote (Beolink5000) that is needed to adjust the time, so there is possibly a work around!)
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