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All back together now …
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:Quick photo of display with contrast too high (do I mean too low?) – only BBC R2, RADIO A and STEREO should be visible! It is much better viewed direct on, rather than at an angle.
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:I am now able to check my display in the dark and it is far too bright! (the non-lit ‘pixels’ are glowing too much which reduces clarity). I’ll re-adjust tomorrow, probably back to where I started. It’s a bit of a faff to adjust so I actually wish I’d never attempted. So if you can live with yours as it is then I recommend doing nothing!
On a positive note, I replaced both belts today – first time I have tried that and it was a bit tricky but successful. I also replaced the lithium battery – I (carefully) soldered a new battery directly rather than use a socket because the sockets I bought were a bit large and may have pushed against the upper shielding. Given that this is the first battery change in 20+ years I reckon that the replacement will probably outlive me. (Old battery measured 2.86V no load, new one was 3.2V).
I had to adjust the FM offset after the battery change. This didn’t work the first few times and I think there may be an error in the manual. It tells you to use TESTMODE, tune to a known station and then press GOTO, input correct freq then press STORE. I found that I had to press STORE twice before the display would show OK and it would register. I haven’t bothered with AM offset. (EDIT: I just checked Talk Sport on 1053kHz and it worked fine, so no need to adjust)
So other than re-adjusting the screen brightness and re-assembling I am finished. Apologies for hijacking madskp’s thread for the non-CD-related activities but I wish him all success in getting his Ouverture fully functional.
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:^ Funny you should ask – I actually did it yesterday!
Here’s a quick photo of the display board removed for access – the two adjustments are circled in red (one for each display panel):
I actually reconnected and powered it up to adjust. This is a bit tricky because you need to spin up the CD to get the track numbers to chow on the upper display – I pressed my finger lightly against the CD centre to keep it in place for initial ‘spin up’.
The potentiometers will actually turn through 360 degrees past the maximum point, hence needing to have the display powered for adjustment. I set mine to maximum, which is fine if you view the display head-on, but there is too much surrounding glow if you view from an angle. So I may well turn mine back down again before re-assembly.
EDIT: Some spotters may have noticed the rather ‘Heath Robinson’ screws at the bottom of the photo above. These are fixing the rear of the keypad in place, and came as part of the official B&O keypad repair kit (new dome foil etc) that was my very first ever B&O repair back in 2008.
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:So after a month of not working on my BC2300 I have today dug out my soldering iron and replaced the CD driver board capacitors.
Board after removal of SMDs:
And with the new capacitors, all Panasonic apart from the (blue) 330 uF which is a VISHAY. I had to be very careful to orientate the capacitors so that they do not interfere with the CD laser movement. The large VISHAY was tricky and I had to bend both legs into an L-shape in the same direction, soldering the hidden +ve foot first and then bending it forward to solder the -ve lead. It now fits nicely into a groove in the side of the CD mechanism.
And guess what? I put it back together and it works, and for more than 20 minutes this time!! It is a Good Friday! ?
Note the picture of Beoworld member yachadm’s soldered CD board on the PC screen behind which was used for inspiration (although I orientated a couple of my capacitors in different directions), and many thanks to madskp and Dillen for their help and encouragement. I have left the new Beoparts laser fitted but will keep the one that I removed (as it is probably serviceable) for future repairs of other kit.
I will be giving the BC2300 an extended test before full re-assembly, and potentially do the other jobs (belts, adjustment of display brightness and battery replacement).
EDIT: Links to capacitors used, for reference:
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:Excellent news! I have had similar experiences with BeoCom 6000s not registering for ages, and then suddenly connecting out of the blue!
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:I don’t recognise that model of DC supply but I am not familiar with what may have been supplied to the US market. I am surprised that it does not have a 15V output, but if it worked previously then perhaps 12V/500 mA was enough.
Have you measured the output of the DC supply with a multimeter? You might find that the voltage is a bit higher than the rated 12V. Despite stating 15V, the one that I pictured actually reads 23 V when it’s not connected to the MCL2AV.
If you do have to buy a replacement DC supply then make sure that the connector has the correct polarity; unusually the B&O one requires the centre to be negative, outer positive as you can see on the little diagram on both our adaptors. A good electronics store should be able to supply a similar adaptor to the one you pictured – I can’t recommend any particular US supplier.
Also check the connections inside the MCL2AV – the cable that comes from the BM4500 may have disconnected from one of the terminals. And check the connections to the IR sensor/transceiver that you replaced – are you able to refit the old (faulty button) one to see if it will see work?
I wouldn’t rule out a faulty MCL2AV – they do fail, and this thread is an example where madskp had to do some fault finding and repair: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/mcl2-av-no-55v/#post-15498
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:Hi and welcome to Beoworld!
The MCL2AV shown in your first picture should be powered by a 15V DC supply that usually comes from a mains adaptor. This little disconnected plug at the top of your first picture looks like it has become disconnected, so that could be your problem.
The MCL2AV will be getting some power (voltage) also over the MCL connections from the BM4500 (but not enough power to work properly), so that could account for the 2v that you have measured.
The UK mains adaptor looks like this:
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:25 March 2024 at 08:39 in reply to: ML/NL converter used with only ML products, just to give access to Beo APP #53802Further to Madskp’s link above, I asked a similar question a while back and a Beolink Gateway was suggested as a better alternative. The thread is here: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/app-control-of-masterlink-products-using-beolink-converter-nl-ml/
I didn’t take it forward – it’s on my list for a future upgrade! ?
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:To upgrade the BL3500 software you actually need to replace PCB 3 which is the Microprocessor and memory all in one module. These modules are very hard to find, so you may be better off replacing the BL3500 with one with the newer SW fitted.
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:Hi and welcome to Beoworld!
You need to get hold of a Bang and Olufsen remote – preferably a Beo4. B&O use a different (higher) IR transmission frequency which very few universal remotes are able to replicate. When looking for a Beo4, try to find a newer one where the second row of buttons read DTV DVD CD as this will be most useful with that age of TV.
I think the module being referred to is possibly a BtB module, meaning ‘business to business’ – i.e B&O supplying a TV to a Hotel chain. These are usually removable but it is possible (not definite) that new SW will be required for the TV.
Try to get hold of a B&O remote first, and then have a play to investigate whether a BtB module is indeed fitted.
Come back here for more help if required.
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:There were originally (yesterday!) some photos in the link to lausvi’s post but they seen to have disappeared. Hopefully they will re-appear as I recall they were quite useful.
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:Have a look here: https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/189/270504.aspx#270504
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:I have one of those! Yes it’s just an on/off switch with figure 8 connectors as you describe.
I think it was made for those who like to power down their devices when not in use – i.e they don’t like leaving them in stand-by. This could be linked to legislation in some countries but I am not at all sure.
EDIT: And see Peter Pan post here: https://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/p/311/290767.aspx#290767
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:It’s thread drift for this thread, but I am helping a relative sort out some tech/AV gear and have a Google Chromecast HD for a few days. I just tested it with my BV10-32 and realised that you can setup the Google Chromecast remote to control the TV’s volume in the same way that a siri remote does! The Chromecast menu also offers the facility to turn the TV off/on (I could only get ‘off’ to work) and to change inputs, but I couldn’t get the latter to work.
I am quite impressed that such a cheap device (£35 in UK) has the IR codes to control a Beovision!
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:I think I’m going to have to find someone with a Beoline2 base so that I can try to connect the Beocom5. That way I’ll at least have a little more information – if it works, then the problem is my Beoline2, if it fails, then it’s more likely the phone. Mark
That’s a good plan – or you could try it with any of the compatible bases shown in the table. Beoline 2 should be the most straightforward, however.
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:Hmmm … I think I would try a base reset next. I am not sure but perhaps you can transfer the numbers to be stored as a Personal Phonebook on one of the BC6000s, and then transfer back to a Common setting where numbers are shared later. This is within Settings, Handset, ‘Handset Type’ but check the manual to be sure – and maybe write all the numbers down (or take a video as you scroll through the phonebook).
If you do reset the base, try registering the BeoCom5 on its own first.
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:The list of registered phones viewed from a 6000 mk II (pressing the INT button) has only three slots used (1, 2 and 4).
Try going into the Settings menu from the centre button. Scroll to ‘Base’ and then ‘Remove Handset’. Using the wheel will then scroll through all the registered handsets. Pressing INT and scrolling will only show the handsets currently connected.
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:According to the compatibility table they should work together:
From the Type number I assume that your base station is a Beoline EU Mk2, so you need to read note 2 above.
Two things to check:
- Are you opening up the Beoline to registration by powering it down and then up again? I think it stays open for 5 minutes.
- Are you 100% sure that no other handsets have been registered to the Beoline – I think the maximum is either 6 or 8?
Location: Warwickshire, UKMy B&O Icons:I can only assume that those sheets would protect from scratches caused by opening the plastic ‘hinge’ beyond its normal range of movement.
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