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Dillen
ModeratorWill the Beocord play back tapes recorded on other decks/factory recorded tapes?
Does tapes recorded on the Beocord play back correctly on another deck?Martin
Dillen
ModeratorCan we see a photo of your Beogram with the platter height visible?
Martin
Dillen
ModeratorA very low platter/subchassis setting can often cause wow.
Reason: A 12″ record is a larger diameter than the platter and the wow comes when the record touches the
surrounding surface – gradually increasing as the tonearm and carriage move inwards, shifting the subchassis’ center of gravity.
First tracks play fine, later tracks not.
The solution is to tighten up the suspension a little at the left/rear.Don’t overdo.
Make sure the subchassis is still able to move freely.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorFrom same territories, generally, yes.
Refer to the part numbers in the service manual and the 4-digit type numbers found on the serial number labels to make sure.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorIs the amplifier sections powered at all?
Bad relay?
Blown fuse?
Cracked solder joints where leads go to the relay board?
Open ceramic resistor on the relay board?Martin
31 August 2022 at 16:37 in reply to: Beomaster 8000: Would there be any advantage to screwing a heatsink to TR211/207 #38749Dillen
ModeratorNo! It’s made like this and it’ll work fine.
(Actually the best and most stabile operating temperature for many semiconductors of this sort is 60-70 degC).Set the idle current as adviced in the service manual.
Final adjustments are done with the Beomaster under normal working conditions (warm).If the idle runs astray (keeps increasing, also after a few minutes) there is a problem
somewhere, – most likely lack of thermal coupling from the output stage darlingtons – or from the temp. sensing transistor in the constant current generator – to the cooling fins.(Never run an amplifier like this without the cooling fins – it’ll do a thermal runaway).
Martin
Dillen
ModeratorThe rush-in current at power up is quite substantial. Not all voltage converters like that.
A dead prescaler usually won’t affect the function of the tuner. It would merely mess up the displayed frequency.
Check the cables to the tuner boards, at least the screened one that goes to the CPU board
is easily pulled off inadvertently.
Check also the solder joints at the two tuner boards interconnecting plugs.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorKeep in mind that the record is typically thicker around the perimeter than in the actual playing area,
– to ensure the needle moves inwards in order to find the groove – rather than outwards.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorNo, these are not ICs you would enjoy replacing just for the fun of it.
Put a scope on the control pins and see if everything goes to binary plan when you run the volume up and down.
If it does, swap the two ICs to see if the problem moves to the other side.
If it doesn’t, find out where the missing bit went missing, bad connectors, cracked solder joint, broken cable etc.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorMissing bit to one of the volume control ICs.
Or a bad IC.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorThere are several, slightly different, versions.
Three of the ones shown here have different transistors, and the last one is an entirely different (earlier) version, mainly seen in 41FV and 42FV.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorCould also be a Siemens SAB8032A-P or a third type I don’t recall right now.
You will have to look inside.
When you know the type ask at Beoparts-shop. Even if not listed, quite often old stock can
be found there which is much better than buying asian counterfeits off Ebay etc.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorSounds like a Beocenter 7000 rather than a Beomaster 7000.
Martin
Dillen
ModeratorDifferent transistors and diodes were used in production.
Indeed OA81 are found in some versions.Mexking, I still have your RIAA here, remember.
– And it actually has OA81 fitted.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorThey are not 22uF.
A 1960s 22uF film capacitor would be the size of a beer can.
Look again. Rotate it or lift one end away from the PCB.
I’m sure it says 0,022uF.
That’s quite normal. As is 22000pF, which is also 22nF.
Just like the one next to it says 1uF if you cover the “0,”.Some of the most reliable capacitors on this planet, those “Mullard mustards” are.
Martin
Dillen
ModeratorSure it doesn’t say 0,022uF?
That would be 22nF.Martin
Dillen
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OA70 are germanium diodes.
Not schottky! (No schottky in power supplies).2 and 3
They are styroflex capacitors.
If you cannot find styroflex, you can fit polyester capacitors for 2 and ceramic for 3.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorFor the older products, there is no link between serial numbers and production dates.
Beomaster 8000 was produced 1981-83.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorFrom serial number 2554003 the monitor function was moved from TP1 to TP2.
This required a change to the slave CPU, the preamplifier and the socket panel.Martin
Dillen
ModeratorIntersting indeed.
0:37 Not Beomaster 4000 but Beomaster 1100
0:40 Beomaster 1400
0:44 Beomaster 900
0:48 Minette 609
1:03 Hifi Stereo Amplifier 608
1:05 Minette 512 (x2)
1:31 Master Deluxe 42K
1:33 Grand Prix 41
3:34 Beovision 500
3:38 Horisont TV 609K (not a 609T because it has no carrying handle on top).
3:42 Capri TV 611 SJ FM
3:49 Grand Prix TV 513 S
3:53 Master Deluxe 606 S (21″)
4:48 Still not sure this is a B&O
5:09 Building furniture series.
Top left could be a Record player Type GS, a storage cabinet Type A or something else – will have to open to know.
Top right Grand Prix 606.
Bottom 2x Speakers. Could be type M. Not sure.
5:30 Could be Beovox 5000
5:31 Type S
5:32 Type M
5:34 Two speakers on top of eachother could be Beovox 1100 or Beovox 2200 (they are not Beovox 1000)
To their right could be two Beovox 2700 or Beovox 2702.
5:54 Replica Hyperbo 5RGS. Not a genuine B&O product.
7:22 Not B&O. The sliderule that inspired Beomaster 1200 (and Beomaster 1001).
7:34 The middle one is a Beomaster 3000 early series (FM to 108MHz).
7:39 Beolit 500
8:10 Grand Prix Present Stereo 609K
9:16 Junior 38
9:21 Master 39K With custom pushbutton station arrangement
9:48 Standard 506RG
10:05 Master Deluxe 39RG
10:25 Beosystem 5500 on F1000 Audio & Video Storage System
10:39 (Not Beovox M100). Could be Beovox S55, Beovox S80 or Beovox S80.2. Can’t tell if they have alu trim round the back.
10:57 Beocenter 2300 DAB with Beolab 2500 speakersWhat I could find time for today.
Martin
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