Tuesday 25th will be the delivery and installation day only interrupted by a partial solar eclipse at high noon. My dealer was wise enough to order a few units in advance.
There are many rabbit-holes with BR1. First….what TV are you using? I can only compare to eclipse but assume the workflow is the same in any BT-controlled TV?
Hi, Im putting out a request to see if anyone has either the Eclipse assembly instructions somewhere or links to YT training videos? This is the screen/soundbar pairing – not the stand pairing. Thank you 10
Im putting out a request to see if anyone has either the Eclipse assembly instructions somewhere or links to YT training videos? This is the screen/soundbar pairing – not the stand pairing.
I went to see the Theatre in a store yesterday. The intent is to replace an Eclipse 65 Gen1 and hopefully have something that can “keep-up” with screen development. Having spent an hour and a half being demonstrated to me I would bullet point the following from my perspective.
The sonic capabilities for visual playback are impressive. I think this BS/BL can be used as standalone without much complaint.
It will be interesting to hear how this unit will hand-off and compliment my BL90s. I think it will take substantial load off them for visual material. Definitely not anywhere as “good” as the 90s but can see the argument that BL28s not required upfront as valid.
I did not hear a room calibrated Theatre as the Dealer had basically butchered a Gen3 65 Eclipse to demonstrate the Theatre. Out of the box is good.
I was blown away by the LG C2/G2 screen clarity. A lifetime away from the Eclipse Gen1 screen.
Still dont like the LG menu setup. B&O need to get a grip here and have their APP completely skin-over the LG interface.
The whole setup of the Theatre is done via the APP. I was told that the BL50/90 keep their own calibrations but the Theatre “manages” the DSP for visual playback. Music playback is not changed and relies on the BL90/50 calibration.
I dont like the motorised floor stand – either design, price or functionality. It assists in consuming too much space for the TV.
I dont like the oak lamella frets.
The shape and material quality of the Theatre is very good.
I made it clear I though B&O were taking a joke on the cost of add-ons. A motorised stand which is +£1300 more than the Eclipse stand, price of the wings and VESA mount etc….
Also made it clear that B&O have to stop making products with specialist parts that have limited life (BS5 Encore power, Moment screens, Gen1 Eclipse Screens etc..). Its a big haircut to have a product binned and to repurchase. This has been heard loud an clear apparently.
Im sure however, this is a good solution for people with Gen1 Eclipse’s and they will sell many of them.
That’s the same as with the Eclipse and Harmony. The Beoremote One BT act as an 2 way remote. Options are send into the BR1BT. Under listing of TV/Music you will get the different sources. And under List you’ll get the different options/settings.
My biggest concern is that we get all of that 2-way functionality with the Beoremote One paired with the Theatre without an LG screen.
That’s the same as with the Eclipse and Harmony.
The Beoremote One BT act as an 2 way remote. Options are send into the BR1BT.
Under listing of TV/Music you will get the different sources. And under List you’ll get the different options/settings.
No need to go crazy – your 5’s seem to work great……with PL. A connection with a receiver 1 is – with the 5’s – not possible. At least I know of noone, who has made that possible. MM
A question which did came up last weekend.
B&O still sells these receiver 1’s.
The question is whether these receivers work with BL5’s and directly to let’s say a Harmony, Eclipse or Theatre with Wisa. I know that the BL5 needs the powerlink data to start. Otherwise they switch on but you will have no sound.
Are there different revisions made?
This is an interesting question. Im going to have a look soon at a Theatre to see if it is worth it. I dont like the stand options and I am still “burnt” from the uselessness of the Eclipse
Specialised LG Panel which no longer available
The LG Interface and operating parameters rather than pure B&O which could be more of the same.
The Soundbar of the Eclipse cannot keep up with the BL90s. Better to mute the Soundbar and use BL90 phantom. Works much much better. Will Theatre keep up?
The marketing seems to suggest yes and seems to indicate it has a DSP which can maximise desirable sound dispersion. The question would have more to do with distance/direction and quality of the front loudspeaker vs the Theatre. I think a pair of BL90’s as fronts and 1.5-2m apart from either side of the Theatre should (according to marketing) interact better than say Bl4000/BL17/BL3, 0.5m apart from a Theatre.
(EDIT: Moved from theatre thread to avoid thread drift!)
355F,
I have had similar problems with an Eclipse Mk1. Under warranty, I had the internal HDMI cable replaced (the one in the impossible space between the screen and the sound bar. This seemed to work for awhile but soon started back up again to the disappointment of the Dealer.
I don’t know your circumstances, and what is connected to the BV, but by accident, I believe I found a cause. Our habit of traditional BVs and BSounds is to play say TV, then to flick to say CD or Video. The BV takes care of all the standby routines so only one source is active.
With LG app, music player can stay on all the time and I think this overworks the internal LAN receiver and causes a brief disconnect. The manifest is reduced BT control (both The BV and remote options) and a hard reboot, unplugging for 3 minutes etc is the only way it goes away for a while.
I have used the curser control to ensure the blue X is presses off in the LG music player app if ever used. (Because with LG, a number of sources can run concurrently). This seems to have eliminated the problem. I think this is an LG/B&O compatibility problem and something B&O should have sorted but it seems difficult to replicate somehow.
Im sure it is more complicated than this…..but what drives me nuts on the Eclipse (Gen1) is the LG interface, with the Beolink control of sound etc…..it is total cr@p and very un-B&O.
Therefore, the error with all B&O TVs and Soundbars is the lack of video engine and tuner. I thinking if they had done this, the monitor part would have been irrelevant and B&O would have full control and upgradability rather than have a product which is totally subservient to the 3rd party monitor.
The BS Theatre continues this approach as far as I can see with limited screen compatibilities. I wonder if the BS Theatre will work on an LG 65 G3 or G4? I’d wager it could have difficulties.
If it’s any consolation, the messages and problems you are experiencing sound almost identical to the problems we had with our Eclipse 65″ when we bought it a few years back. It came from B&O Winchester and it took a couple of visits from their engineer but they sorted it out in the end and it has behaved perfectly for the last three years (touch wood!)
What I’m saying is – keep try and don’t give up. Not only is the end worth it but this is a premium product so be polite but firm that you want it sorted out.
I purchased the Eclipse only 5 months ago from Bang and Olufsen in Cambridge.
When purchasing it i was informed the MK2 had been developed to accept future LG panels for some considerable time- in fact four months later the MK 3 comes out, so clearly that was not correct
I contacted the CEO but never had a response!!
Since day one the eclipse would show a message indicated in the enclosed picture that HDMI2 had disconnected and almost immediately another banner stating it had reconnected ; unfortunately upon doing so one looses all sound and loss of control from remote and the app states the TV is offline.
The only way is to continue to remove the mains supply repeatedly until it operates again; increasingly now though all one gets is no picture or sound and a green flashing light on the front stand LED and a white flashing light at the back of the sound centre.
Most of the individuals i know who bought B&O in the past have deserted the brand; I however have stayed loyal to it but these issues are something i have never encountered in other products. I sold the Avant for this after having had three video boards replaced each time taking weeks and weeks to fix.
Unfortunately, Disney doesn’t consider the first generation Eclipse as a LG branded set and refuses to provide the app. Possibly B&O would have to pay a license to Disney to have the app provided.
If you want the app, you will have to buy an Apple TV and run it from that device.
ich habe einen Beovision Eclipse 65 mit der Software 03.60.60. Leider schaffe ich es nicht die Disney Plus App zu installieren, da ich sie nicht im Content Store finde. Im Internet habe ich aber gelesen, dass die App ab WebOs 3.0 installiert werden kann. Meines Wissens nach hat der Eclipse WebOs 3.5?
Thanks for the post, and your impressions more or less match mine, when I heard the Theatre on Sunday.
I have 50s as left and right front speakers, and am used to a very wide (some would say massive) soundstage. And coming from that starting point, and desire, listening to the Theatre on its own the soundstage, while noticeably bigger than the Eclipse (for example), was not wide enough for me.
It is wide enough though, and good enough, to me that I can see that starting with the Theatre alone, the first sensual addition is for rear speakers rather than adding front l/r. That to me is the difference between the Theatre (as sound centre) and the Eclipse (or other prior BV’s) where the first addition would clearly be front l/r speakers.
But like you, music is much more important to me, so the 50s up front will remain, and will continue to be fed directly (via RCA) by my Linn streamer/DAC and turntable.
Good luck with your setup though – sounds mighty capable, whether you put your upcoming 28s besides the Theatre up front, or as rears. My experience of that setup – the triangle, with 28s as rears, and Theatre only top front, was extremely good.
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