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Hi Stan,
You need the A1 mk.1 if you want to use an analogue wired input, as there is no way to do this with the mk.2 version unfortunately.
Kind regards, Steve.
Thanks 69er!
Kind regards, Steve.
Thanks Paul,
I appreciate your support and I’m grateful for you taking the time to respond. Any questions, please feel free to get in touch.
Kind regards, Steve.
Thanks MM,
I appreciate your response.
The people I spoke to at B&O admit that they made an error, but they corrected this as soon as it had been found. As this error was restricted to the limited access Beta programme, their hope was that this wouldn’t be leaked onwards into the public domain.
Neither I nor Beoworld are blaming anyone for sharing the information, or wanting to deny anyone their right of free speech. All we ask is that Beoworld isn’t used as the place to leak details of unreleased B&O products, regardless of the source of the information.
I hope that Beoworld members will understand that this is a B&O fan site that wants B&O to succeed, so that they can continue to make products that we will want/need to purchase long into the future.
Thanks for your understanding.
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi carolpa,
Sorry for the delayed reply, as I needed to make the other moderators aware of the situation.
I received a request from B&O yesterday to remove a post that contained commercially sensitive information so I had no option but to delete this immediately. Beoworld has to comply with legal requests and applicable laws. Ultimately, this site exists to promote our shared love for the B&O brand. The site moderators work closely with B&O in cases where information has been shared that was only made available to a select group of people (in this case Beta testers, who are most likely under a non-disclosure agreement with B&O).
I apologise for not being able to update the thread in the manner that you suggested, as yesterday was my daughter’s exam results day, so I was away from the computer and had to deal with the issue on my phone screen.
Freedom of speech is an important issue and any post deletion is not done lightly. However, Beoworld needs to ensure that we are not at risk of liability when privileged information is shared in public on our forum.
Thanks for your understanding with this sensitive issue.
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi carolpa,
You have a PM.
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi 69er,
You will need the B&O Transmitter 1 connected to the 9000, then a B&O Receiver 1 connected to the Beolab 2. Please use two RJ45 to Powerlink cables for the connections (one for each device):-
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi Rene,
Yes, the cable that Olivier mentioned will become available for European delivery during September to allow a turntable to connect to the Beovision 11 AV input (I apologise that I am currently having to take time off work to care for a family member who is unwell and this severely limits the service that I can offer to customers).
Thanks for your patience, please feel free to get in touch via my sponsor link at the foot of the page in September in you need help with cables for delivery to Europe and I will be happy to help.
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi Beoldn,
Basically, everything is possible, however the key here is to decide what you want to achieve from the setup. Can you tell us the model number of your non-B&O amp please and if there are any other music sources and/or speakers that you also want to use in the same room?
This will help us to better understand what you need and help you to get the best setup.
It is worth noting that the input switches on Beolab speakers are quite fragile, so they won’t last long if you regularly move them from one setting to another. For this reason, I suggest connecting only one device directly to the speakers (eg. the Essence) and then linking other devices to this to share the speakers via the one connection.
Please feel free to reply here or to get in touch via my sponsor link at the foot of the page if you need any help connecting your B&O products.
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi MM and Pindsen,
I hope to be able to ship to Europe again in September, so not long to wait. Thanks for your patience.
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi Pindsen,
This cable links a Beogram with a pre-amp (eg. Beogram 3500) to the PlayMaker RCA inputs:-
For the Powerlink version of Beolab 4 with 8 pin sockets fitted, two of these cables will link the two speakers to the PlayMaker:-
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi,
Yes, I get asked this question a lot (ie. most days!). The simple answer is No. Don’t try it.
Why? Beolab speakers (with a few exceptions listed below) don’t have their own volume control, they rely on a connected music system to adjust the volume for them. The speaker is effectively fixed at full volume.
If you connect a fixed volume device like a turntable directly to a fixed volume speaker, the result is that you get a burst of massively loud sound which often destroys the speakers (and sometimes also damages your ears) within a few seconds. Not recommended…
The answer is to connect a music system with a volume control (eg. a Beosound, Beocenter, Sonos Port, or other amplifier) with a volume control between the turntable and the speakers to give you the ability to turn down the volume. Pretty much any combination of turntable, music system and speakers is possible, please click on my link at the foot of the page if you need help with connecting specific products.
The exceptions to the rule above? Certain high-end Beolab speakers (Beolab 5, 28, 50 and 90) have their own volume adjustment, so they can directly accept a fixed volume input. For all other Beolab speakers, it is a definite no-go without adding a volume controlled device in the middle of the chain.
Hope that helps!
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi Dan,
I will let others comment on the remote control question, I can help with the cables. Yes, you can use your Beolab speakers with the Theatre, plus any brand of powered subwoofer. Whilst it is possible to adapt existing RCA cables linking the speakers at present, this is far from the best option.
If you are looking to spend £6,000+ GBP on the Theatre, then a bit of effort to get the cabling right will give you a great improvement to the sound of your speakers. Using the correct RJ45 to Powerlink cables will give the best sound and control of the speakers:-
To add a non-B&O subwoofer with RCA inputs, simply connect the cable and adapter in the links below from a Powerlink output on the Theatre to the RCA input on the subwoofer:-
If your subwoofer has two input sockets, please connect both plugs on the cable, otherwise either plug can be used if the subwoofer only has one input socket (Please use the Line In sockets, not the LFE Sockets). Set the subwoofer volume to approx. 50-75% and then adjust it as required to match the level of your other speakers. The subwoofer volume can now be controlled automatically from the TV remote along with the other speakers.
If there is no way that you can change the existing cables, please feel free to get in touch via my link at the foot of this page and we can look at options for adapting these without too much loss of performance.
Kind regards, Steve.
Thanks Milva1,
I always enjoy reading Tim’s articles, he is a very knowledgeable B&O enthusiast and a nice guy too! Great to see that the response to the Beogram (and indeed the new Beosystem) has been very positive in the press and on other B&O fan sites (Discord, Facebook, etc) as I think most people get the concept that this is a niche “halo” product to showcase what B&O can do and to celebrate their history.
I fully understand that this isn’t for everyone, in the same way that bespoke coloured Beolab 90s will never become a mass market product. Beosystem 72-23 makes me excited to be a B&O fan again, just as the original Beogram 4002 excited me as a teenager in the 1980s.
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi Olivier,
Normally the cables are more neatly routed, but I visited very soon after the system had arrived, so they didn’t have time to get them tidy… The cable that I supply to B&O links the Beogram 4000c to the 3.5mm line input of the Core.
As well as the Core, there is a Transmitter 1 in the shelving inside the top of the cabinet for a wireless connection to the speakers. However, the guys at Houten have cabled the speakers, so they have added an RJ45 splitter and RJ45 Powerlink cables as well (these aren’t usually in the 72-23 setup). There is also a Qi wireless charger in the top panel of the cabinet for the Halo as you mentioned.
Kind regards, Steve.
Thanks MM!
Hi Adam and Chartz,
I have been led to believe that any Beolab speaker can potentially be paired with this system and colour matched accordingly if required, including Beolab 50 and 90. Beogram 4002, 4004 or 6000 can be used as the starting point of the turntable (the original 4000 is more complex and hence often considered to be less reliable than the later models).
While the 8000/8002 Beograms are undoubtedly the high point of B&O’s turntable development, in real world use they offer minimal audible gains over a well set-up 4000c, but they are far less “timeless” in their design which I suspect would make them harder to sell to new customers once refurbished.
All in all, I think this is a superb system, combining some of the best and most attractive B&O products from the past 50 years in a stylish, high quality system that can be expected to play for another half a century. I understand the negativity that some traditional B&O fans may have towards retro systems of this type, but I think high-end setups of this type are essential to keep B&O in the public eye and to restore their financial stability. If we can get 100 people buying a £55,000 B&O system, that would have the potential to bring B&O’s finances back on track and give them funds to make more “everyday” products that we can all afford and enjoy.
I can only dream of owning a system like this, but seeing and hearing it makes me happy to be a B&O owner. I’m also proud to be a very small contributor to this system, by building the cable that links the Beogram to the Core inside the cabinet.
I am pleased that B&O made a striking product to divide opinions and generate debate, instead of following the crowd and doing what everyone expected. I’m excited to see what they will do for their 100 year celebration product!
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi MM,
I agree that this product isn’t for everyone, but getting high-end, exclusive products into luxury homes will be the key to keeping B&O alive for the future, so they can keep on making things that us Beofans all want to buy for many years to come.
This Beosystem includes the highlights of B&O’s product range from the past 50 years, made into a unique and stylish system that would grace any luxury villa or royal palace.
I can’t afford this setup, but I can still dream… 😉
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi Beoworlders,
Time to tell the full story… I made a 1,500km journey to hear Bang & Olufsen’s rarest and most exclusive music system so that you can hear how it sounds! All is revealed in this video…
Kind regards, Steve.
Hi guys!
This is a combination of a rebuilt and upgraded product, paired with new items. The end result is really quite stunning… The record brush is just one tiny part of the system, included with lots of other parts 😉
Full video review (and sound test!) to follow in the next few days on my YouTube channel!
Kind regards, Steve.
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