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I think this does warrant a new forum on Beoworld General Forum? It can be relatively complicated and there is a multitude of 3rd party add-ons as well as B&O compliant devices.

I dont think we will be serving ourselves well bolting on a automation topic to a Theatre thread, or other linkable devices?

The new post from B&O Manchester at the Barcelona IES 2023, also highlight potential with the KNX Automation platform as a compliant system.

Maybe the mods can have a think about this?

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I dont know. But I have always assumed that the Theatre has zero integration outside of the usual loudspeaker/remote and (almost) headphones.

The BR1 has the placeholders it seems to do more integration but there appears to be very little if any in the BeoApp? I was always under the impression that Khino (£750) and the Pro licence (programming – £650) were what you had to do (BL Gateway now EoL?) to enable other non-B&O home automation.

The Theatre has I am told the latest wheeze – “Matter”, but just like Atmos, it doesn’t seem to support any specific B&O equipment to really build a system with?

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Millemissen wrote:

However, I tend to agree with Severed hand……, that the following discussion would have a better place in the long ongoing Theatre thread. This is where these things belong in order to be easily searched for. Also there is great danger that small threads will ‘die’ after a while – smaller threads seem to disappear in the myriad of posts here. It is much more likely that the long Theatre thread will continue and this way can be kept at the top of the list of the postings for longer.

As I indicated previously, newbies are coming on to site, have specific questions they want answered and don’t have the time, patience or knowledge to go through nearly a thousand posts. The Search on Beoworlds is not good and big threads are more of a problem in getting information out easily.

I don’t think having a condensed thread for the sake of the “old-hands of the forums” convenience and “cleanliness” is the way to go. Ergo, we also don’t keep to the same standard with other topics whether its a BG4002 or a BL5 or a Beosystem 5000 or whatever.

If I look at the posts in the general Forum over the last 4 days (there was a period of two days with virtually no posts), there are perhaps 30 – 50 posts overall? I think I account for 30-50% of them helping on the theatre the best I can. The forum is not very good traffic-wise (General Forum baseline) and I don’t think that is good for anyone and certainly not for Beoworld.

What may a good half-way house is we have a lot less of members dictating how the forum is managed from their perspective and allow the Moderators to combine threads as the traffic to that smaller thread diminishes?

But lets help people who need or request help. We cant close ourselves off.

I have no further comment to make on this sub-topic in this thread.

 

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cant help with stand or light control. No experience from my side.

Speaker setups.

… >> Product Setting >> Connected Speakers >> WISA and or Powerlink

Then Listening position, Roomsense and microphones

Main Menu, Listening Position >> three bars >> Create New > Start From scratch >> Create >> Follow onscreen instructions.

 

 

when you select a source, pressing LIST (not TV LIST – which is what I thought you meant originally), those buttons are not editable but flag-up depending on source. So if you have like I do, 5 Listening positions:- video, Centre Only, BL90 wide, Narrow, Omni), those will come under “speaker>” and selectable in alphabetical order.

I would have thought (but cannot test) that Stand positions comes up on the main page of the App below listening position? Changing stand position is then programmed like “Listening Position”.

I think that’s as far as I can take this enquiry due to my setup limitations but will help further if I can?

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It’s not a bug……it’s a feature

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Ok,

… >> product settings >> source startup >> select source behaviour and toggle “include in list”

then

… >> product settings >> remote >> select remote >> remote list, slide sources up and down in order of preference.

to slide, long press and hold in the middle of the grey bar until it moves, slide in to position

 

 

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I think we help those who need help – wherever it may be required

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I think what has happened (I changed batteries on an old BR1 two days ago – 14weeks from commissioning the Theatre) is that there was a software request that the BR1 was slow to respond (wakeup) with the Theatre after a period of inactivity.

The Theatre is what I would call two-way Control (not Comms) and heavily BeoApp dependant. I think to speed-up remote response, the BR1 has been “opened-up” channel-wise to be responsive for longer (A bit like 30min sleep on a PC). This will go through battery PDQ.

I suppose the solution to this would be for a) B&O to get the BR1 and make rechargeable with a USB-C dock (an add back-light while they are doing it) or b) get the Halo sorted out as a viable remote option.

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There does not seem to be a way to configure the List menu of the remote. No way of reordering, rename, add or remove menu items to optimize it for your use-case. This would be useful to get rid of stuff you don’t need, especially in the Light and Control menus (which I use with Home Assistant); these have pre-populated items with very specific names that you can map to automations, but without being able to rename them most of them make no sense for my setup. It’s a minor gripe but a weird omission, given how configurable the BeoRemote is when used with a legacy product.

It is relatively easy to customise the list menus – but there are two main problems:- 1) its done in different parts of the App and 2) rename something too many times, the BR1 locks up and cannot be changed. Only a full Theatre reset can put this right.

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The name of your theatre would have been something like BS Theatre – 00serial no00 >

As you can say, you can change/rename. However, i have not notice this before on my Unit

What I have noticed that if you rename the TV list or Radio List in the remote setting too often, it will reset to say HDMI A and cant be changed. Only a Hard Factory Reset can then change it.

I suspect its something about the BeoApp and the Theatre 2-way control which hangs up. I have raised these points with Beocare…..and maybe one day they get around to fixing it?

 

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Thank you for contacting Bang & Olufsen Customer Care.

We appreciate your feedback to consider supporting DTS on top of Atmos, & we will gladly look into this for you.

We at Bang & Olufsen strive for the best when it comes to our customers and supporting them.

That is why customer satisfaction & feedback is essential to us; we understand where you’re coming from and we really appreciate the feedback.

We’ll pass this on to the corresponding team; we appreciate your patience & understanding.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you have further doubts or other questions.

Kind regards,

 

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I find the batteries in the BR1 variable – even with market-leading brands over those cheap ones that always ship with OEM products.

I’ve seen BR1 last 4-6 weeks and sometimes over 6 months ++.

I think the Bluetooth side of it (with 2-way control) eats a lot of power inherently.

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My opinion is the BL18/19 won’t get near the 5’s.

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Just to add, Ive just interrogated the my Kaleidescape system on the audio porting.

So it looks like zero support on the Theatre for DTS so the Kaleidescape (and probably all decent BR-Players), pump-out what they can handshake with up to 7.1PCM 192/24

 

 

 

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Hi,

I’ve just done a test on one of the few non-Atmos films I have at the moment. I tested Gravity in BR quality.

Now natively, this should be played as DTS-HD but the BeoApp Signal is showing 5.1. I cant tell if this is piping an SD Dolby format (one of the back-tracks I had in the download) or if it is emulating DTS-HD? And to be hones, Gravity is a film with few booms and bangs to judge.

It sounded OK, but Im not 100% certain if it was the genre of the film or the decoding but sounded a little like 4.0 sound-ish? If it were not for the BL90s, Im also not sure if the LFE channel was delivering discretely.

My view is something like the UB820 should be able to handle both DTS and Atmos but as you suggest, if it is instructed to pump-out 7.1 from a DTS sound format, the Theatre should pick that up and distribute the sound as either 5.1 or 7.1 PCM.

An ideal sound card for the Theatre would be one with both Atmos and DTS encoded natively?

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Ive seen two pairing modes on the Theatre.

On H9’s ,it seems to be handled via the Theatre. I think if your H7’s are in the BeoApp, this should show on the List >> Headphones on/off

On the Portals, the pairing was via the LG pairing system – which was irritating because if the Mrs was watching TV and I was on my iPad, the LG/Portal would take over the TV sound. I unpaired that connection quickly.

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I think a lot of the decision making is what your living space can accommodate? I have BL90s is my living room – which I can and do live with.

However, I would not contemplate additional column speakers or even BL4000 or BL17 as surrounds. I choose BL3 only as the most compact solution as not to be overwhelmingly a B&O showroom.

My philosophy would be to get the most powerful Beolab fronts (90 > 50 > 28 > 5 > 20s etc..) you can afford/accommodate and get the most discrete surrounds that suit your individual tastes. I would not worry too much about sonic matching of surrounds. They bring atmosphere first and foremost.

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Bang & Olufsen Powerlink RJ45 Splitter (3132047)

then RJ45 to RJ45 powerlink, or RJ45 to DIN powerlink in and out

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I agree. However, there are two issues I see. On one hand, knee-jerking to individual solutions into the app can lead to more problems, on the other, some issues can be annoyance and brand-diminishing until they are fixed.  The last update (barring the new 2.5.3 which few have received) was November 22nd 2022. An update every month would be a good compromise?

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etype76 wrote:

I get it now. I just started all over again and see the + sign. It’s late so I’ll sort it out tomorrow. Thx Mr. 10 percent for pointing me in the right direction.

Our last replies just crossed over in the interweb.

Glad you have something to work-on. If you have issues – as I say, repost with some more info (and screen-shots) and I’ll try and help.

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