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GOLD MemberLooking forward to hear about what you’ll find out.
There is no doubt that you can adress both these parts in the app – e.g. by activating the Core/BL11 and then joining on the Level pair.
However – and that is what I meant above with “among other things” – you have no option of controlling the crossover between the BL11 and the Level. The BL11 only offers a minimum of settings there and the Level has its own ABL based bas management built in….meaning that this is variable = dependend on the SP of the device/how loud you play.
This may lead to dips or peaks in the frequency response of the setup.However, if you can live with that or even enjoy the result – it will also very much depent on the room, where you listen and the placement of the BL11 – why not do it!
Also the handling of the playback will be somewhat inconvenient – especially if you want occasionally to move one Level to another room and back etc.
All in all not a setup that I would want……..or recommend!This said – I hope you’ll come back to tell about your impressions in case you make the setup.
MM
Location: Flensborg————Danmark
Honestly I never thought that I should be answering such a question ?
I’d agree with the simple short post from Hiort….not possible!
The only option I could think of is – like you mentioned – adding a CCA directly to the BL11 and then create a group of all devices.
N.B. You’d need a trigger solution for the 11 as well.However, I am pretty sure that this among other things would cause delay issues between the 11 and the Levels……but testing is better than believing.
Furthermore you would be limited to using Chromecast for streaming to the setup.
And chromecasting means using the CC function within the source app – no way to integrate the Bang & Olufsen app there!
The “simpler or more elegant soltion” would be to get a Core (or an Essencense MK2) and some plain Beolabs to run along with the BL11 ?
MM
Location: Flensborg————Danmark
Apart from maybe upgrade from 6000 to 8000, not much to improve there.
And I am not even sure that would bring ‘the significant more’, that you seem to wish for.
Only going from two channel to three – or rather to 5/5.1 channels – will boost your sound into a “more theatrical and powerfull” experience.
However, that would require some radical changes to the setup.The current setup seems to be a decent solution……..if you can live without a center channel.
What is it that you are missing now?
MM
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At some point there was a change…
It is possible to set up a B&O device without using the Google path.
See this:
By the way – one of the biggest drawbacks using a GVA product is, that you are not able to use the line-in connection as you please…..but that is another theme.
MM
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Interesting….worth investigating!
Anyone with a MK1 here to test it?
MM
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Have you tried to disconnect both and reconnect?
Tried pulling out the ML cable (sorry, I know that is cumbersome)?
Please do check the ML wire.
Do you have a junction (box) somewhere along the way?
MM
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Sure….that is well known (amongst those in need of datalink).
In retrospect it is a pity, now that the Beogram/vinyl players have become so popular.If you don’t need Masterlink, you could however, use the Phono socket on one of the older Beomasters (3500/4500/6500/7000 etc).
Also see:
https://www.beoworld.org/article_view.asp?id=64
MM
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None has datalink – as far as I know.
MM
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Part of understanding this is the wish to take part in the big current market for headphones – homeworking.
MM
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Maybe you are right….or the design is similar!
P.S.
This is the source of the picture:
BANG OLUFSEN BEOPLAY 500 Wireless Active Noise Cancellation Over Ear Headphones User Guide
MM
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Yet another pair of headphones.
Fairly easy to find a picture on the internet.
MM
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Ich stimme trackbeo zu – der BV11 hat das beste von beiden.
Von den zweien wäre V1 meine Wahl……übrigens – ich finde den nicht ‘ugly’.
Aber wenn du noch Masterlink-basierte Audioprodukte hast – und die unbedingt behalten möchtest – wäre BV10 schon noch zu überlegen.
Mit eksternen Lautsprechern angesclossen gibt es eine gute lösung.Das grösste Problem da meiner Meinung nach ist, daß eine PUC-lösung (für Steuerung von externen Geräten z.B AppleTV) nur durch ein Update vom Techniker möglich ist.
Aber vielleicht reicht dir ein Chromecast-dongle.Das ist alles viel einfacher mit dem V1.
(Der hat auch noch Netradio eingebaut).MM
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Hi yael and welcome to the forum.
You could start reading this thread from the old forum:
https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/6533/91292.aspx#91292
MM
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I can easily reach (and play from) my Beosystem 7000/CD on my Essence in a linked room.
The setup is Beosystem 7000 -> Beolink/ML Converter -> NL/ML Converter -> into my NL products.
Why shouldn’t that be possible with the Sound Center……which is a NL product?
It is all about how the setup is configured!
MM
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Hallo Matthias
Eigentlich gibt es 2 Möglichkeiten.
1: die kompliciertere und bessere.
Du brauchst einen (B&O) ML/NL Konverter um deinen BM7000 bzw den Masterlink Konverter mit einem NL-basierten Setup (Eclipse und eventuelle andere NL-Lautsprecher im Setup) zu verbinden.So kannst du den BM7000 inclusive Beogram ungefährt so bedienen wie vorher mit dem BV10.
2: die einfachere/günstigere, aber nicht so bequeme Lösung.
Ein (DIN-)Kabel vom BM7000/A.Aux oder auch vom PL zu Minijack/Line-Eingang am Sound Center/Eclipse.
Hierbei wird einfach das, was am BM7000 abgespielt werden über die Lautsprecher/Eclipse, hörbar. Die Quelle/BM7000 muß manuell/Beo4 ausgewählt/kontrolliert werden. Die Laustärkeregelung erfolgt über den Eclipse.2a: falls es dir nur um den Plattenspieler geht, könntest du einfach diesen mittels Adapter DIN zu Minijack mit dem Line-Eingang am Soundcenter verbinden (der BM7000 wird dann nicht benötigt).
Der Beogram muß mauell bedient werden/Lautstärkeregelung über Eclipse.Hoffentlich hilft dies ein wenig!
MM
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OliverC is right…that is the signal chain (which also includes a MCL to ML Converter in order to integrate the MCL Beomaster to the ML chain).
The Beolink Gateway (as well as the newer Beolink Intelligence) makes the voice controlling possible.
Means no magic……but clever programming combined with the linking possibilities built-in to the Bang & Olufsen products.
Something that you would want that more B&O dealers would/could showcase!In the cinema room they are using a Trinnov Altitude audio processor (unless they have changed that lately). This advanced processor – amongst a lot of other things – makes it possible to set up several different speaker groups like we also know it from the BSys4 respectively the Sound Center of the newer BV’s.
This way B&O can showcase different multichannel Beolab setups in the same room.
The Trinnov processor can also be integrated with the Beolink Gateway for creating different scenes (lightning, screen etc) as Steve told us in the video.All in all that room is a further development, a perfection of what a B&O setup has been able to since the days of the Beosystem 3/cinema options.
@Steve
Thanks for the video – I have been looking forward to it ?
MM
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Of course there is a DAC inside, but that is part of the signal processing, that is responsible for any signal going into the BL5’s.
Many people claim to hear a difference using the digital vs the analog input.
IMO it is hard to a/b testing, since you will have to have exact the same SPL for both.
Besides external DAC’s which are part of both solutions, are mostly (quite) different – using different filter settings etc.
You normaly do not know everything about each signal chain!In my view it will be impossible to compare ‘your DAC’ and the DAC solution in the 5’s!
So choose what you like best……..…or skip the hassle with using an external device, if you already now don’t notice a significant difference.
Enjoy the music.
MM
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As far as I remember the BM4400 has 5-pin input connections (one for Phono and two for Tape).
Basicly you can use any CD player – in some cases you’ll have to use an adapter (R/L to DIN).
If you want vintage B&O….go for a CDX/CDX2 – which one is better the vintage specialist here may tell you.
There you have options for controlling directly on the device.
MM
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That is not going to be an easy task.
I’d lay it on the back with a lot of blankets/cushions to stabilize.
Or rather…..I’d go looking for someone with a bigger car so that it could stand upright.
MM
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Here is another one of my favourites.
Bear with me – much more time to listen for time being ?
The Mary Fahl album Live At The Mauch Chunk Opera House from 2014.
Since it is a live album, I let the TrueImage processor upmix to 5.1.
MM
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