[Madskp]

Very handy unit indeed. Have seen one advetised locally at one time for around  66€ which was to expensive for my taste though

 

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[Madskp]

Great testing of the different IR sensors. It makes sense that they are compatible over the different versions as the remote signals has been the same over time.

Apropos Beolink Active I just got a good deal on three of the including IR sensors and some ML cable and not related adapter cables.

 

Interestingly on of them seems to be updated to SW 1.6 as the 6 is handwritten on it.
The IR sensors are in very nice cosmetic condition. For some reason one of them is wired up with an RJ45 cable. Have to figure out what pinout is used.

 

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[Madskp]

Madskp wrote:

and on the MCL2AV the yellow and the grey wire seems to be connected on the screw terminal (will have to double check that on the actual unit)

Just did check this. The terminals are connected when measureing with a multimeter. Can’t see the trace on the PCB though

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[Madskp]

In the process of soldering adapters to use the round IR eye with the BLC NL/ML (which works with ground, +5V and IR, but no the other wires) I came to think if the round IR eye could work with for example volume buttons if connected to a MCL2AV.

Tried that out this evening, and no. It works as an IR sensor with ground, +5V and IR, but no lights, and no button functions, so no cross comptability there either except for the IR functions.

 

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[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

Excellent – control of a datalink device from NL without a datalink audiomaster! I am sure NL users who want remote control of a BeoGram turntable will be very interested.

Yes indeed. I’am also looking for a reasonable priced Beogram with datalink for myself.

Guy wrote:

I am looking forward to the new BLC thread.  I did ask a few NL/ML converter questions here, so perhaps you’ll be able to provide new information once you investigate more: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/app-control-of-masterlink-products-using-beolink-converter-nl-ml/

I will defenetly look into the app control part and see what is possible.

 

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[Madskp]

I just found that I still sort of have the sensor IR eye. It’s been lying in a box with other electronic stuff, so it’s a little scratchy:

And the inside is not what it used to be.

The original PCB has been replaced by a USB hub, and an USB IR sensor (B&O compatible) and was used for a hidden mediacenter PC I had at one point connected to a LX 5500. The button on the side is for turning on the mediacenter PC.

As far as I remember the IR sensor software is only for windows, so when i replaced the mediacenter PC with a Mac mini it was not usefull anymore, and ended up in a box where it has been for the last 12-14 years.

I think I will keep it even though it will not be usefull for it’s original purpose anymore

 

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[Madskp]

Just a quick update to this thread. I recently bought a NL/ML converter and today I had half an hour to play a little arround with it. So I set it up as ML source center, and  made integration with my Beoplay V1 on the NL side, and connected the  Beolink converter 1611, MCL2AV and my Beocord 3500 on the ML/datalink side:

Beoplay V1 – NL – BLC NL/ML – ML- BLC 1611 – datalink -MCL2AV – datalink – BC3500

I setup the Beoplay V1 to use A.MEM for the A. MEM on the BLC NL/ML, and what do you know. Full control of the BC3500 from my Beoplay V1 in another room.

There might be many detail I have overlooked in my short testing, but generally it seems to work through the whole chain.

I will of course make some more extensive experiments, but I will put that in a separate thread as it might be more focused about the settings in the BLC NL/ML

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[Madskp]

Glad to help and great that this was an easy solution for you

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[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

I also found this in a box – the VX sensor that I had previously used with my Beoport (see earlier photo). It seems that I also kept the useful yellow Post-it from when I made the little adaptor. I think that the connections are even correct!

interesting that they kept the pinout on the minijack the same for the VX and BS3/Beoport sensor even though the wire coloring is different

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[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

So despite hurting my back yesterday mowing the lawn I have today commenced the great box search! After four hours of careful extraction, unwrapping and disappointment, I have uncovered the very last box and saw this red writing on the top: (I was organised after all!)

great that you found the part even if it was the last box. Hpefully it wasn’t all disapointment looking through the boxes? At least you find the two IR eyes we were taking about in the other thread.

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[Madskp]

Yes that was the one I had excluding the BM7000 cable. Looks to be in near mint condition

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[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

Any unboxing photos will be of me sat in the middle of a pile of cardboard and wrapping with my head in my hands, wishing that I had been far more organised when I packed it all away!

Haven’t we all been there 🙂

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[Madskp]

Looking forward to unboxing pictures of all the B&O black boxes you have in these large boxes  ?

jokes aside I hope you find the spare part somewhere in there

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[Madskp]

Yes thats the one. in the BM5500 diagram all 6 pins seems to be used. Same pin numbering though.
It should be noted though that these 6pin DIN connectors can not be used with a 5 PiN DIN plug, which might be why they are not following the traditional numbering convention

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[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

– BS3 sensor (as ML but with no button markings – 5 connections possible but only three used to 3.5mm plug)

And this sensor is probably also the same as used for Beoport

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[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

Good conclusion – if I do try anything similar with the BC9500 as a source I’ll post it here, but it’s only really the ‘timer’ functionality (with rectangular sensor) that may be worth testing. I vaguely remember having problems trying my BC9500 with a BL1611 and Passive many years ago but can’t remember what sensor I used. Performance may be related to the SW version of the BC9500 source of course, so I’ll check the config tool to see if there are any relevant notes.

Always great with extra input if you find the time for it.

Guy wrote:

It may be worth deciding terminology/names when talking about IR eye/sensor types. I tend to think of the four main types as follows: – MCL sensor (normal rectangular type with Timer and Mute buttons – 5 connections hard wired) – VX sensor (as MCL but no buttons – 3 connections only to 3.5mm plug) – ML sensor (normal round type with Timer, Vol and Play button – 5 connections – usually via 7 pin DIN) – BS3 sensor (as ML but with no button markings – 5 connections possible but only three used to 3.5mm plug)

That is a really good idea, also as it seems like type numbering of MCL IR sensors seems to be the same as the MCL boxes, and therefore can be more confusing to use.

I once had an IR sensor for BM5500 with a 6 pin DIN plug. It was looking like the VX sensor, so it might be the same type, but with more connections.

Guy wrote:

Looking forward to the new thread!  I expect experimentation with all the above sensor types and full MCL/ML/NL integration – just think of the number of permutations once you add in Converter configuration settings!!

Yes that’s what I am going for. Gonna be lovely keeping track of settings. Might also end up in a big cable mess 😉

Guy wrote:

PS:  It could be worth getting hold of some of these if you do want to try different sensors: https://www.amazon.co.uk/PENGLIN-Terminal-Ethernet-Extender-Connector/dp/B0BTYH9726

That’s an interesting solution, I might have the parts for making something like that myself. Thanks for the inspiration

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[Madskp]

Hello. No knowing if it is possible to modify the internals another idea comes to mind.

If you do not have the BS4 connected via Masterlink to a Beovision TV this solution should be possible:

Connect a Beolink converter type 1611 with a Masterlink cable to the BS4. you can then connect a audio cable with 5 Pin din plug (audio signal conncted to pin 2, 3 and 5)in one end to the AAL connector on the 1611.

The BS4 should be put in option 2, so it can receive both audio and video commands.

With a Beo4 remote, press Standby button (the red dot) and List at the same time. Press list again until option is shown and press GO. press list until A.opt is shown. Press 2 and Go

You should then be able to activate the input on the 1611 converter with any video command (TV, V.MEM, DVD etc.)

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[Madskp]

In conclusion my BL Passive / Ml-MCL converter seems to work for all functions 🙂

Next subject is my new NL/ML converter, and I probably will test the IR receiver with that also, but thats for another thread

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[Madskp]

Madskp wrote:

On the setup with the MCL2AV pressing the play button on the round IR eye again will activate the Beolink passive, but not the BC3500.

Did this test again, but this time with the MCL2AV type 2026 with the newer software.

This time it will reactivate the BC3500 when the play button on the IR eye of the BL passive is pressed, so functioning as described in the manual and as it is when used with the BM5500.

So it seems the newer MCL2AV software version functions better for this setup

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[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

Madskp wrote: BL Passive – ML – 1611 – datalink – MCL2AV – datalink BC3500 Got it! I was just being a bit slow about the 1611 -> MCL2AV connection from earlier trials!

It has also been a while, but yes the same setup just with the passive instead of the BL3500

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