[Madskp]

Thanks for your observations.

For some reason I can not see the picture you have inserted. I know that there was an issue with inserting pictures yesterday that Mark fixed, so maybe you could try to insert it again?

 

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Hello

You can not use the A.AUX command with the input on the 1611. The A.AUX input is as far as I know for the USB analog audio input converter.

However Any video command like TV, DVD, V.MEM, V.Tape etc. will open up the audio input from the AAL connector on the 1611 converter provided that correct wired cable is used.

Hope this helps or else feel free to ask again

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Multicare wrote:

“\nMadskp wrote:\nI don\u2019t know if it is related to this update\nThere was definitely an issue with adding images in the post. I have just resolved it. \ud83d\udc4d\n\n\u00a0”

👍

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Multicare wrote:

You can still add images to this content box by selecting the image icon.

I don’t know if it is related to this update, but I just got an error (red bar) saying that I could not post a replay without content (maybe not that excact phrase) when I tried to post this https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/what-are-you-working-on-now/page/8/#post-64051 with the picture inserted. I tried several times and got the error each time until I tried posting with the picture attached instead.

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Recapping the crossover in my Beovox RL 45.2. I wonder if I am able to hear a difference

 

 

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Reading this post  https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/low-budget-multiroom-setup-for-ceiling-speakers/#post-64021 by Steve from SoundsHeavenly I am wondering if there is something we have overlooked regarding the Esssence ability to active a Beolink Passsive /MCL2P.

@CharlieWednesday you dit mention that you only tested it briefly, but @Guy have you used the MCL2P with the Essence over a longer period of time?

 

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[Madskp]

I just did some testing with an MCL IR eye connected to a MCL2AV. WhatI see is a voltage drop from 4.97 V to ~3.68V depending on the command when pressing af key on the remote.

With the Ir disconnected I also measure 4,97V on the data screw terminal the MCL2AV, so must be that voltage the IR eye I trying to pull down.

Measuring on the IR eye without connection to the MCL2AV I see1.57V that is pulled down to ~1.3-1.4V depending on the command when pressing af key on the remote.

Hope this is usefull

 

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kirin wrote:

Hi Madskp, I agree, you can see sonsor and signal on the picture, however, maybe I got a modified IR sensor. I do own 3 others, which were sold together, I will check the others as well. Best regards

If it is any help I can also try to check the signal on one of my MCL sensors with a logic analyzer. Maybe tomorrow

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[Madskp]

I know there is still a lot of work getting the product pages updated with all the scanned manuals and other information.

But I have some suggestions for further addition of repair resources on the product pages.

1)

Picures from the inside of products and/or pictures of PCB’s (preferable both front an back) could be added. This could make it easier to explain where to look for something and compare if something is missing or have exploded. Also different PCB versions or MK version of a products could be reflected this way. This would probably rely much on users taking pictures when repairing products.

2)

Software for at least older products that could be downloaded and programmed to Eproms. Of course this will only be for the few to use as most do not have the equipment for programming chips, but could be a way to get a repair center to help upgrading a product. I do not know if the software is copyrighted in a way that this is a no go, so might not be viable.

Also software like Beoplayer could be a thing if copyright is not an issue.

3)

Diagrams for products where this is not available in the servicemanual, and updates to diagrams in the servicemanuals.

I have in case of the Beolab 3500 MK2 tried to trace the diagram for part of a PCB to better understand the differences compared to the MK1. In this case the diagram was available in the servicemanaul for the MK1, but not for the MK2.

Also I have seen more that one case where the diagram in the servicemanual has small errors, like wrong pin numbering. The right info could be shown with red text to reflect that it is updated information.

Again this would rely heavily on user input, and not many would actually do this, so maybe a very marginal area.

 

I know that the above will be a great task, and will  rely much on user input, so fully understand if it is not a thing that is not prioritised but now you have the idea.

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kirin wrote:

as I am just playing around with some toys (Beo4, IR sensors, arduino) I just have to revive this thread, as I found out that the wiring stated above seems not to be correct regarding the MCL IR receivers (I hope that is the correct „type“), it may be another at that VX sensor: 5V power supply – green ground – brown data – white

I can confirm the colors in regards to the rectangular MCL IR eye. In case of the MCL IR eyes you should be able to count on the wire colors being correct as the connection to MCL2A and MCL2AV is with srew terminals where the wire colors are printed on the PCB next to the screw terminals.

For the Newer round type IR eye where the conenction on the IR eye is with screew terminals the color coding can vary depending on the product type it is used with and wheether a twisted pair ethernet cables is used for it, so in case of these IR eye’s it is better to look up a wirering diagram than depend on the color coding. This might also apply to the VX sensor IR eye.

kirin wrote:

The white will emit data: the pulses are high to low with a voltage of ~1.5V (instead the 5V of more modern IR eyes)

That sounds odd as the IR data signals are compatible across the different IR eye’s as tested in this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beolink-passive-ir-eye/

 

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Tignum wrote:

Hi, I bought a truly as new BeoCom 6000 mk2 handset, to use daily. It must have been rarely used: the texture of the back cover feels really new, and the white texts on the buttons is really white still. I put a new battery in it and it works fine. Happy with it!

yeah the Beocom 6000 is a wonderfull landline phone. I had one as my primary phone for several years, but in the end it was not used anymore and was given away to another forum member.

Got two again recently that was part of a larger LOT of B&O. They are just placed as art pieces in my Beocave, but I might get to utilising the built in volume control

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[Madskp]

You are very welcome, and glad to hear that it did help even though it was not logical why.

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I just did some testing both with a Beolab 3500 MK1 SW 2.0 and a Beolab 3500 MK2 SW 3.1 connected to my NL/ML converter setup as V.Master. I assigned the PC source to the Line in on the NL/ML converter. I used a Beolink converter type 1611 to power the ML network.

In my first testing I could not get sound, but then after changing the role of the NL/ML converter to A.Master and back to V.Master it now works for both Beolab 3500.

So it is possible use the PC command, I was just in doubt.

But one thing that came to mind, Which components do you have on the ML side of the converter besides the BL3500? Do you have a ML audio master, or a ML Powerbox or as I did here a type1611 converter?

Just asking to be sure as I don’t know if this is a setup you had for a long time or a new setup.

 

 

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Frog wrote:

The role of th NL/ML converter is V.Master (I have a beosound 5 in the system too. In the NL/ML gateway, I assigned Line In – and I know it works because the Beosystem 4 can stream. I’ve tried assigning it to PC and while I can switch the beolab to PC, it doesn’t stream.

I am actually a little unsure how the Beolab 3500 handles the PC command. I can try to do a test of it tonight.

Do you know if your BL3500 is a MK1 or MK2? MK1 has the MCL engraving under the 8 pin DIN connector on the back?

Have you tried assigning another video source to the Line in that is not in use on the BS4 (provided the BS4 is in the same room)?

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KolfMAKER wrote:

I am not sure if I understand your question correctly. But if you want to stream with a Chromecast through a BeoLab 3500, it is possible. If this is what you want … I do this via the DIN-connector and a Mini-Jack-to-DIN cable. In this case you need a cable that connects the right way to the pins in the DIN-connector. Then you have to use the Beo remote to activate the ML on the BeoLab 3500, and streaming works.

The soultion you are refering to is for stand alone use of a Beolab 3500 with a Chromecast directly connected to it. What Frog is asking about is a usecase in a combined NL and ML network where the chromecast should be available to more than 1 device.

 

Frog wrote:

what I can’t do though is get the Line-In output to play out on any ML device. I know that the NL/ML converter configuration is fine as I can select it from the Beosystem 4 – just can’t get a Beolab 3500 to stream.

What role have you given the NL/ML converter?

Have you assigned a source to the Line in that is visible on the ML network and is not used by other sources on the ML network?

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It makes me a little worried if your Penta’s are connected to both the BM7000 and the BV7 with Powerlink. This could potentially make issues. Has it always been like that?

If the BV and the BM7000 is in the same room best practice is to connect the Penta’s to the BV7 and let the music from the BM7000 be played though the TV.

 

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[Madskp]

You will still need the preamp. The beolink converter only convert the signal types, no amplification

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Roderic Vaalsen wrote:

So cable-wise there is some hope but remote-wise it’s a different story? The fact that there’s no online evidence of someone who’s been able to pull this off on an old unit like this, seems like a bad sign.

Right. Of course there might be somewhere inside the control center were it can be switched on, but that would require both the service manual an some understanding of the circuits to figure out I guess.

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lenhi wrote:

With a cable to the other Penta, and that one connected to the other one, they suddenly work

Do the displays also work or is it only sound from them? If no display then It could very well be a fault on the datalink circuit on the Beomaster 7000. There is a transistor and a diode that can fail.

lenhi wrote:

I am beginning to suspect theat there is something wrong with the Masterlink; according to your drawing, the powerlink is not used at all here, so I pulled that out when I needed the second plug in the Penta to connect to the other Penta. Since then, no sound at all from the BV7. And I have nowhere to connect it.

Remember my drawing is just how I imanginge that your setup is/was connected based on what I can read in your post’s to better understand your problem. As I have not seen your connections I can have misinterpeted some information, so the drawing is best guess based on how things usually are connected  Therefor the best would be for you to try to verify if the drawing resemble how your system was connected before the problems arised.

About the BV7 that should be connected via Masterlink so conenction to the Black Beolink converter Box. You might have a junction somewhere on the Masterlink connection where it is split to the BL3500.

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Guy wrote:

I have just been experimenting with a NL/ML Converter connected to BC2300 via BL1611.  I can start the CD and skip through tracks, but my BC2300 also starts in a muted state.

I think the reason for this behaviour is that the way the NL/ML converter connect to a B&O music system is in many ways how it would work with a connected Beovision or a Link room where it is the speakers on the controlling unit (in this case the NL/ML converter just controlled via App or another NL device instead of a remote) that is started and not the speakers connected to the the music system

Guy wrote:

Unlike you, I can then use the Beo4 remote to unmute and control the volume

Do you still use the Beolink Passive for local speaker? That may give an other result than “real” Powerlink speakers

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