[Carolpa]

Reprobeo wrote:

Tijdens een BeoLink Multi-Room sessie met mijn beosound shape en de Stage samen, toont het schermpje van mijn BeoRemote van zowel de Shape als de Stage het speaker symbool en niet het pauze symbool. Dus kan ik alleen het geluid van de betreffende speaker uitzetten maar de muziek niet pauzeren. Het pauze symbool is wel zichtbaar als ik alleen muziek afspeel op enkel de Stage of de Shape.

Juist bij het kiezen van van de speaker icoon lijkt het een “mute” opdracht te zijn. Echter toch wordt de bron gepauzeerd totdat je weer deze icoon hebt “gedrukt”.

Zeker lijkt dit verwarrend.

Het gaat wel “mis” als je via dlna een eigen cd hebt gekozen, deze volledig afluisterd en de cd nogmaals wilt beluisteren. Dan heeft de speaker icoon geen zin, je moet dan terug naar de “music” opdracht!

[Carolpa]

Erwinvdl wrote:

Thanks! I don’t have a router from Unify, but gave every speaker a fixed IP. The 2.4ghz recommendation is interesting, because I just tried to boost the 5 ghz for problem solving. I’ll try this by switch off the 5 ghz for a period. I already use fixed channels (not automatic) this gave indeed more stability, but not a 100% fix.

did you try the system already with the router’s wifi switched off?

does every AP it’s own name? Or do they have the same name?

[Carolpa]

Since three months I use a Unify router with already installed AP’s. Although most (if possible) B&o is LAN connected. That said an Essense and two M3 are WiFi connected. Until now I have hardly to none sync problems.

General try-outs to reduce sync problems (AP’s are integrated part of Unify setup):

1. Set  fixed IP address
2. Use only 2.4GHz band
3. Set on predominant channel.

note: I myself use these settings

[Carolpa]

Hiort wrote:

I wonder if anyone experience the same problem. Scenario: My M5 is started in the morning using the timer. A bit later I go down to the kitchen and tap on my BS1 GVA. By that I join the source on the M5. After that I may add M3 in my bathroom and/or M3 in my office. When I later leave the house I close all devices by using the B&O app, shutting all devices to standby. Problem: When I come home, I then tap my BS1 GVA and expect that to play from its own source. It does not. It starts playing from the M5, and the link symbol is shown in the app. Sometime the BS1 does not play at all, and I have to use the app to start the play. It appear as the “master” does not release the “slave”. Its the same if I use M3 as the Master. Anyone else see this behavior? I think this started with the latest ASE platform update.

Hiort, your right! All my devices do show this behaviour after a minor updates.

For example: yesterday evening I played the BG400o on my Shape connected to a BLC. If I give a play command on the Shape today (white triangle on the black player ribbon) it starts the last played source, the BG4000.
It works with all sources this way now: so also BLC connected sources. But for some, to me unknown reason, some sources are more persistent then others. On a strange way the “a.tape7000” starts unexpectedly.

I’m still figuring out, how the system exactly reacts.

 

 

[Carolpa]

geoffmartin wrote:

A general comment: It’s incorrect to infer that a system or device is lossy or lossless based only on a sampling rate and bit depth. For example, an MP3 decoder can spit out 48 kHz / 24 bit audio. That doesn’t mean that it’s lossless.

oeps, that’s right, never thought about it that way.

so what would be the correct criteria?

[Carolpa]

Leosgonewild wrote:

Here is what the Beosound core is capable of handling: MP3, WMA, AAC, ALAC, FLAC, WAV, AIFF Standard sample rates up to 192 kHz, stereo and up to 24 bit End-to-end rendering path on the optical interface: 96kHz/24bit My goal here is to get this into the core and out to my Beolab 5’s. I know the Beolab 5 also has its limit to what it can handle. To clarify; I am mor e than satisfied with the sound of Airplay 2 at 16/44 for daily use.

if it is your own collection in your network, you can stream to the Core directly by using Audirvana.
streaming Apple Music isn’t supported by Audirvana (up till now). it supports Tidal and Qobuz though.

[Carolpa]

Millemissen wrote:

Carolpa wrote:

Again technically speaking if he want to feed the Core with a higher resolution music files from his Apple ecosystem, then he has, to my knowledge, skip AirPlay altogether and use the toslink connection.

But Leo asked: “is there any other way to get a lossless Apple Music signal into the Beosound core?” And that was the question, I tried to answer.

We both did – skip Airplay: do it, as you propose, with an external DAC  connected to an iDevice or use the the Mac.

I guess a lot of people prefer a wireless version (AirPlay) and also not many use a Mac as the daily music driver.

I prefer LAN connections; so everything, when possible, is LAN-connected. That said of course I use (DLNA) controllers much. For example I use Audirvana to stream Qobuz directly to B&o devices.

For me the bigger question though, is whether the difference matters – and if not the convenience of wireless is worth it? That is a question, that only the actual listener can answer.

Maybe the mastering quality, the listening room and the speakers (and ones hearing ability) are the more important factors! MM

You do, as I do, listen to “the Harmony Codex”. “Abbey Road” and DSOTM in Dolby Atmos (correct me if I’m wrong). But in the end, I completely agree, its up to the listener.

“Hires” is a hopeless discussion, because everybody’s senses, tastes and preferences are somebody’s own; atop of the physiological and technical discussion.

I did set my preferences on my experiences.

regards

[Carolpa]

Millemissen wrote:

Carolpa wrote:

Leosgonewild wrote:

If I have understood correctly, Airplay 2 is not lossless. This means that if I am using Apple Music on my iPhone and transmitting to my Beosound Core via Airplay 2, I am not listening to its full potential. what I have done is that I run a toslink cable from my Mac mini into the Beosound core. I could also run a toslink from my Apple TV into the Beosound core. is there any other way to get a lossless Apple Music signal into the Beosound core?

Technically speaking Airplay 2 is lossless because it supports formats up to 24bit and 48kHz (= above the resolution for CD). to my knowledge the best method to play higher resolution with the Apple ecosystem will be the use of the toslink connection between the Core and the Mac mini

This is not a question about higher or standart resolution. AirPlay 2 is always lossy – in order to have less strain on the wireless network and a better sync between the receivers. A higher resolution distributed through APE2 would also be lossy (using ALAC). MM

Again technically speaking if he want to feed the Core with a higher resolution music files from his Apple ecosystem, then he has, to my knowledge, skip AirPlay altogether and use the toslink connection.

[Carolpa]

Leosgonewild wrote:

If I have understood correctly, Airplay 2 is not lossless. This means that if I am using Apple Music on my iPhone and transmitting to my Beosound Core via Airplay 2, I am not listening to its full potential. what I have done is that I run a toslink cable from my Mac mini into the Beosound core. I could also run a toslink from my Apple TV into the Beosound core. is there any other way to get a lossless Apple Music signal into the Beosound core?

Technically speaking Airplay 2 is lossless because it supports formats up to 24bit and 48kHz (= above the resolution for CD).

to my knowledge the best method to play higher resolution with the Apple ecosystem will be the use of the toslink connection between the Core and the Mac mini

[Carolpa]

Millemissen wrote:

Carolpa wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

I sure know which one I prefer to look at in my rooms/home. MM

What an immense difference …….. with in my opinion more objective pictures. It shows an evolution in three generations of the B&o app. To me the latest UI is the easiest to operate……whereas the first is the most complex but very nice even after all these years.

I get your point – the second one looks nice when playing. My ‘problem’ – maybe – is that I hardly ever see the app on my iPhone. I was talking about an app, that – like mine on iPads – can represent a missing display for the actual devices. I do not use the app much for controlling….and do not carry my iPhone with me, when I am at home. And even if – I do not agree with you that the latest UI is the best for navigating….it is still too unfinished imo. I add/remove rooms with my BROnes respectively on the device. For me the multiroom section in the new app is way too present. Again – this might be just me and my use case. Others might carry their phone with them all the time and do not have/use a BROne. MM

Concerning the new iPad interface I do agree with you. The amount of info presented is way to much and the overall chosen colour pallet makes it worse.

Although the multi-room and playlist can be closed, it is annoying that both are opened when the player is selected. Also the previous and next Album covers shown make the iPad experience unpleasant.

The iPad version need for sure some sophistication!

[Carolpa]

Millemissen wrote:

I sure know which one I prefer to look at in my rooms/home. MM

What an immense difference …….. with in my opinion more objective pictures. It shows an evolution in three generations of the B&o app.
To me the latest UI is the easiest to operate……whereas the first is the most complex but very nice even after all these years.

[Carolpa]

I’m presume the setup was / is (please correct me if I’m wrong):

NL Beovision with speakers connected – Beolink NL/ML converter (BLC) – BS9000.

so the most obvious first thing to do: disconnect everything from the mains, wait a minute or two and reconnect everything.

If this doesn’t do the trick, tell us more about the BV and please post pictures of the BLC setting.

[Carolpa]

i would disconnect the BLC completely.

restart the BLC by only connecting the mains.

press the  setup button as described.

 

[Carolpa]

lechatsurletoit wrote:

Hello everyone, I just bought a second-hand beolink converter 1790 NL/ML, I’m afraid I got scammed and it’s broken despite being sold as working. When I plug it in, I can’t see it either on the setup app (iPhone), on my computer internet browser or on the computer network when it’s connected directly as stated in the documentation. The led is a solid green, and when pressing on the reset button nothing happens. When I plug it directly to a PC, sometimes I get a flashing green/red led but it doesn’t do much more and the reset button remains unresponsive. I also plugged it in my Masterlink network but not much happens. Does anyone out there have an idea of what I could try, or do I need to go directly to the shop? Thanks all!

first do a factory reset, then (re)connect the BLC to your network. Find the correct IP address of the BLC (Beolink NL-ML converter). Open your browser and connect to the IP of the BLC.

[Carolpa]

Sandyb wrote:

B&O, when it comes to control UIs, dont cater well for NAS stored music, so you’re right to look elsewhere for that part.

I can agree to some extend for the Moment. But on all other players (BS35, Essense, Shape, Harmony, Theatre, BL28, Balance) the control of NAS stored Music is heavily dependant of the DLNA server used and the ability to tweak the settings of this server.

[Carolpa]

YannChris wrote:

Hi, Made the test too as release notes mentioned NL/ML Converter. I did not notice ANY improvement in ML sources availability. Back to 5.3 ! Yann.

same over here, still missing ML sources (A.Tape and Phono).
But I can still access them using my Halo’s with the BLI programmed button(s).

So not back to 5.3, just getting to learn the latest build some more (and I still like to use the volume sliders (especial those of the multiroom); more accurate).

[Carolpa]

No discussion – in this case choose the BV11

[Carolpa]

Hockey44 wrote:

Maybe I missed it, but can the Bluesound work over a network and not wifi and with a Synology DiskStation NAS? I am trying to find a ‘simple’ approach as the whole B+O Moment was a nightmare in so many ways and a product dead on arrival– although aesthetically lovely. Thanks

did you start the Synology DLNA music server already OR did you install and started a DLNA music server on your NAS already?

if this is running a Node or a WiiM or the Moment is capable to pick up the DLNA server if it runs on the same network as your NAS (undependably on WiFi or on cabled connections)

[Carolpa]

Millemissen wrote:

Why not just connect the Note/the WiiM to the line-in of the Moment? I suppose that the Moment has auto sense there just like other newer products. MM

or to the line-in (A.Aux) of the BS9000 or BC2 (and skip the Moment, Hockey44 doesn’t seems to be enthusiastic about the Moment (sarcasm))

note: my LAN connected Moment just does fine as DLNA music streamer (with time to time an odd failure of the Jukebox though)

[Carolpa]

Hockey44 wrote:

Hello, I am trying to find a method to link a large NAS (16tb) with my existing system: Beolab5; Beolab 9; Beosound 9000; BeoCenter 2 and Moment Ideally have the NAS remote and the speakers on a network and work “like Sonos” with App or similar to select music and location. Moment is I think useless and never seemed to work. What options can I pursue as I am building a new house and now is the time to specify wiring for cabling speakers, network etc. My dream would be to have 9000 in same room with Beolab 5 to play cd’s and Beocenter2 in room with Beolab 9. Ideally link tv sound to Beolab 9 as well. Big dreams– any guidance greatly appreciated. So far no support from BO. I am moving south of Lisbon so if any one has a good contact to help, please let me know. thanks again

1. can you listen on your ML-sytem to something playing on the Moment?
2. if YES; the Moment is quite essential to your wishes.
3. install a DLNA music server on your NAS (maybe it already has even software available; I would recommend Minimserver)
4. chose “add your content” then “DLNA” in the Moment. Select your  NAS DLNA server and let the Moment “rebuild” its database.
5. if finished, you should be capable to play this Music; your NAS music on your ML-system

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