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  • YannChris
    FOUNDER Member
      • Location: Brittany, France

      Jon,

      If it may help, I placed my 4000s in order to have their bottom at aproximatively 2/3 of the room’s height.

      There is a couch in front of them, so they are a bit high but it’s an annex system and the result is not so bad.

      I guess they would be OK in front of a dining-room table.

      Regards,

      Yann.

       

       

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      in reply to: Bang & Olufsen App – Beta version 5.x.x. #49116
      YannChris
      FOUNDER Member
        • Location: Brittany, France

        Today’s new version did not bring any improvement for the missing ML sources.

        So I rolled back to 5.3 version, but only 39 days left 🙁

        BTW, I noticed in 5.3 that ML sources are present in Core but not in Theatre.

        Kind regards,

        Yann.

         

         

         

        in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49638
        YannChris
        FOUNDER Member
          • Location: Brittany, France

          Hello Geoff,

          Good idea, you have PM.

          Yann.

          in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49636
          YannChris
          FOUNDER Member
            • Location: Brittany, France

            Thanks Geoff,

            I’m relieved with your confirmation. The technical guide was (for me) a bit ambiguous and I was confused.

            I checked 196 kHz listening with several sources: Flac files downloaded from Linn Records, Qobuz Hi-Res streams and also the test tone sent by my streamer.

            None of them are played, 96 kHz files work fine.

            Streamer is connected to the BL50s by a 5 meters digital cable which came with my previous BL5s. I checked with another cable with the same result.

            Yann.

             

             

             

            in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49634
            YannChris
            FOUNDER Member
              • Location: Brittany, France

              Thanks Sandyb,

              I also googled but problems were about the optical connexion, which is limited to 96 kHz in the BL50.

              Yann.

              in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49632
              YannChris
              FOUNDER Member
                • Location: Brittany, France

                THAT said, I definitely made the comment about personal preference. Just because something is measurably “better” (e.g. more like the original – whatever that is/was) doesn’t necessarily mean that you’ll like it more. Better for you is not necessarily better for anyone else.

                I admit that personal taste is a prominent element in the perception, which is source to endless debates.

                My concern is to eliminate any digital “filter” bewteen NAS and BL50s, in order to have them in charge of the restitution of the digital signal. Is it impossible?

                To Geoff:

                I have a problem with my 50s, as they seem to be unable to play 192 kHz files from the coaxial input.

                I noticed in the technical guide that specification, for that input, is stated “up to 192 kHz”, vs “up to and including 192 kHz” for USB Audio.

                Should I understand that coaxial input does not support 192 kHz files?

                 

                Yann.

                 

                 

                in reply to: Bang & Olufsen App – Beta version 5.x.x. #49108
                YannChris
                FOUNDER Member
                  • Location: Brittany, France

                  Brrr!

                  This looks like a very difficult moment with Moment’s bugs!

                  Yann.

                  YannChris
                  FOUNDER Member
                    • Location: Brittany, France

                    Here is an extract of BL50 technical guide (available on the B&O website):

                     

                    Appendix 1: Recommendations for Critical Listening

                    14.1 Loudspeaker Configuration

                    The Beolab 50 provides you with an
                    extremely wide range of parameters
                    that can be used to adjust the timbral
                    and spatial presentation of your
                    recordings for various listening rooms,
                    loudspeaker placements and listening
                    positions. However, it is always best to
                    start with an optimal configuration in
                    your listening room.

                    First consider the relationship between
                    the loudspeakers and the listening
                    position itself. The two loudspeakers
                    and the listening position should be the
                    three corners of an equilateral triangle.

                    This means that the distance from
                    each loudspeaker to the listening
                    position should be the same as the
                    distance between each loudspeaker.
                    This also means that the loudspeakers
                    will be 30◦ away from the front, centre
                    location, directly in front of the
                    listening position.

                    Figure 14.1: The centre of the sound
                    beam in the vertical plane is level with
                    the top edge of the acoustic lens when
                    raised (at a height of 108.7 cm from the
                    floor).

                    Secondly, the two loudspeakers should
                    be “toed-in” by 30◦. This means that
                    they should be slightly rotated so that
                    they are both facing the listening
                    position. This is shown in Figure 14.2.

                    Figure 14.2: A “perfect” loudspeaker
                    configuration with Beolab 50’s. Both
                    loudspeakers are aimed at the listening
                    position. The distance from the listening position to each loudspeaker is the
                    same as the distance between the two
                    loudspeakers.

                    If possible, the height of the listening
                    chair should be set so that the
                    listener’s ears are level with the centre
                    of the vertical beam, shown in Figure
                    14.1.

                    The next consideration is symmetry
                    within your listening room. It is
                    commonly recognised that the best
                    stereo imaging will be achieved if the
                    listening configuration (the triangle
                    formed with the listener and the two
                    loudspeakers) is placed in left–right
                    centre of the room. Therefore, the side
                    walls will both be the same distance
                    from the listening position, and the
                    loudspeakers will have the same
                    distance to its adjacent walls. This is to
                    say that the distance from the left
                    loudspeaker to the left wall is the same
                    as the distance between the right
                    loudspeaker and the right wall. The
                    distance to the front wall (behind the
                    loudspeakers) should be the same for
                    both loudspeakers, but certainly does
                    not have to be the same as the
                    distance to the side walls.
                    Figure 14.3: An optimal placement for
                    the loudspeakers with respect to adjacent walls. Note that the distance between each loudspeaker and its closest side wall are identical, and that the
                    distances from the loudspeakers to the
                    front wall are also matched.
                    Figure 14.4: An less-optimal placement
                    for the loudspeakers with respect to adjacent walls. Note that the distances
                    from the loudspeakers to the front wall
                    are matched , however, the distance between each loudspeaker and its closest
                    side wall are not identical.
                    Figure 14.5: Another example of a lessoptimal placement for the loudspeakers with respect to adjacent walls. The
                    distances from the loudspeakers to the
                    front wall are matched, however, the
                    right loudspeaker and lacks a side wall
                    nearby.
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                    in reply to: BL50 Coaxial input #49656
                    YannChris
                    FOUNDER Member
                      • Location: Brittany, France

                      It’s 5 meters long.

                      1st test made a cable supplied with Beolab 5s, connected to the SP/DIF out of a Beocenter 2, as I had no problem with this cable with this configuration.

                      So I suspected the cable and bought a brand new one, with the same lack of result.

                       

                       

                      in reply to: BL50 Coaxial input #49653
                      YannChris
                      FOUNDER Member
                        • Location: Brittany, France

                        I did, but no solution.

                        Most posts on the subject are optical-related.

                        🙁

                        in reply to: BL50 Coaxial input #49651
                        YannChris
                        FOUNDER Member
                          • Location: Brittany, France

                          Thanks Mr 10%

                          Yes, everything is configured as you stated. Wiim is configured to a maximum rate of 192 kHz on Coaxial out.

                          I do not use Optical for this test, as this connector is limited to 96 kHz on the speakers.

                          With 96 kHz file, the coaxial input works normally. With a 192 kHz file, no sound.

                          The BL50s switch-on on both files.

                          I checked with a brand new cable, same result.

                          Kind regards,

                          Yann.

                           

                          in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49628
                          YannChris
                          FOUNDER Member
                            • Location: Brittany, France

                            Bits are bits!

                            MM, that’s exactly what I think.

                            But so many people are stating that Core is easily blown away by such or such 3rd streamer that I would like to understand what happens to these poor 0s and 1s 🙂

                            in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49626
                            YannChris
                            FOUNDER Member
                              • Location: Brittany, France

                              Sandyb,

                              I do not plan to replace my Core for the reasons explained in my previous post.

                              But I want to get the best of my 50s.

                              So, if the Core has no impact on the digital flow send to the 50s, I’m happy with it.

                              But if there is an impact, I may think to an hybrid system as yours.

                              I tried Roon some time ago because it hosts Qobuz but did not keep it, as on long listening session the “more of the same” automatic playlist following an album was a bit boring.

                              Yann.

                               

                               

                              in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49625
                              YannChris
                              FOUNDER Member
                                • Location: Brittany, France

                                Thanks MM,

                                I agree with you for the benefits of the core in a extensive setup as mine (several rooms and products of all generations), because any product can reach the others in terms of content and control.

                                Especially with a NL/ML converter in the game.

                                In fact, I do not plan to remove it.

                                I don’t use Tidal, but Qobuz which is unfortunately not natively integrated in the app, as it has been done for Deezer.

                                I can understand that a streamer can have an impact of the sound for analog to digital conversion. But this is not my concern as all my music is stored as digital files and the Core is used as a hub for streaming and NAS access.

                                In a nutshell, the question is to know if the Core is perfectly transparent (or not) in a totally digital signal path.

                                Yann.

                                 

                                in reply to: BL50 and Core, please explain me :) #49622
                                YannChris
                                FOUNDER Member
                                  • Location: Brittany, France

                                  You are right, the Core replaced a few years ago a Moment used for playing music stored in the NAS and Net Radios to the rest of my setup (I was not confident in the Moment’s lifespan although it was a nice product).

                                  I appreciate its integration in the B&O ecosystem (until the 5.4 version of the app).

                                   

                                   

                                  in reply to: Bang & Olufsen App – Beta version 5.x.x. #49100
                                  YannChris
                                  FOUNDER Member
                                    • Location: Brittany, France

                                    To Mr Andersen,

                                    As an addition to MM’s answer, here is the list of sources available in one of my products.

                                    My setup includes Theatre and Core, NL/ML Converter and Beocenter 2..

                                    By the way, it would be great if the source list could be manually ordered.

                                    Kind regards,

                                    Yann.

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                                    in reply to: Bang & Olufsen App – Beta version 5.x.x. #49097
                                    YannChris
                                    FOUNDER Member
                                      • Location: Brittany, France

                                      Thanks MM,

                                      I’ll wait.

                                      in reply to: Bang & Olufsen App – Beta version 5.x.x. #49095
                                      YannChris
                                      FOUNDER Member
                                        • Location: Brittany, France

                                        Hello Beoworlders,

                                        A new version has been released a few days ago but did not dare to download it.

                                        Did you notice any improvement?

                                        Kind regards,

                                        Yann.

                                        in reply to: About Beolab 50 #46268
                                        YannChris
                                        FOUNDER Member
                                          • Location: Brittany, France

                                          I agree, but I have to deal with HWMBO 🙂

                                          Let’s hope that Geoff’s magic made a miracle.

                                          Yann.

                                          in reply to: Update Beosound Theatre 3.2.1 #48999
                                          YannChris
                                          FOUNDER Member
                                            • Location: Brittany, France

                                            Hi Sandyb,

                                            I’m also concerned if the solution they are working on is just a “gain” setting.

                                            I noticed that the sound level changes tremendioulsy from one TV channel to another, so a setting based on the source will not help.

                                            In my opinion, changing volume when changing the source is less annoying than changing it when changing from one channel to another.

                                            So the solution which seem sto be in the pipeline is not adressing the source of the problem. It’s just a a bandage on a wooden leg.

                                            BTW, how did you roll back to the previous version of firmware?

                                            Kind regards,

                                            Yann.

                                             

                                             

                                             

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