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DanteM wrote:

Yes, but my point here is about using other speakers to improve the sound coming from a different speaker.

I think Geoff mention something like this in the past for B&O, but Dirac launched it first?

This principle is not new, not an invention of B&O.
However, they were the first to implement this in a speaker concept (the BL90).
Now this has become a part of the Theatre setup concept too – along with the other advantages that Mr10% summerized above.

I am pretty sure that B&O had opted for Dirac, if that was better – if that could be the solution, that they need/wanted to offer.
Obviously it isn’t!

MM

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beojeff wrote:

I do wonder if the LG’s home control could be added to the Theatre’s list on the Beoremote 1. Just trying to help a bit.

Don’t get me wrong – I do appreciate that!
I was just trying to explain my reasons for not knowing (or maybe not wanting to know) what LG Home Control is about.

Apart from this it might be a solution for someone else reading here.

P.S.
If that could be added to the BROne, it might be interesting, though.
So I am looking forward to your findings.

MM

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@Beojeff
No – I hardly notice anything LG, when I use my Theatre setup.
My sources (which are connected to the Theatre) are my ATV, my bluray player, a Chromecast Ultra dongle (all devices that I had and used with the previous Avant 1st gen) and occasionally the internat tuner of the C2.
And of course the usual Beolinked audio.

I am comfortable with the apps of the ATV – it integrates well with my other ATV’s and my MacOS/iOS devices – I had/have no intention getting lost in the WebOS jungle. I never see that for my daily use.

BUT – I will have a look at that anyway………curious as I am ?

Untill maybe some day the Beoremote can take over from my new Hue-based solution, I and the wife are fine.

MM

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If you have video source/tv in between or just want to have a funtioning stereo imaging from where you sit, the speakers should not be too far apart.
The further they are apart the harder it will be to find a sweet spot for listening.
If you have a video source/tv a center channel will help.

MM

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Beojeff wrote:

I suspect that you’re partly true — and that might be enough. The article in the link indicates the we could control devices with Matter with the Beoremote One favorite buttons. This would make it pretty simple to trigger light scenes. E.g., Bright, Relax, and TV Viewing scenes with Hue. Just a handful of scenes can be very useful and maybe enough for most people. However, I wouldn’t expect to see the type of deep control that you can get with a BLI — such as being able to control the light level of each lamp. I could be wrong. Maybe adding Matter support to the Theatre would give us a new sublist under List on the remote for “Hue Lights” that would give us a list of all lamps and scenes.

Exactly what I would hope for – and all I would need.
Maybe that would be enough for quite a few other B&O users too?

MM

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Sandyb wrote:

I wouldn’t count on any of the Mozart devices as being able to act like a hub.

Your Apple TV (being pretty recent I think?) though will act as a hub for Matter enabled B&O devices.

We still know too little about the Matter integration of the Mozart products.
However – like in my case with the Hue setup – you’ll need the Hue Bridge in any case.
And this is Matter and Thread compatiple as far as I know.
Apart from this – I guess – my AppleTV 4K could do the job.

Interesting days ?

MM

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Emilos88 wrote:

From Christian, on the Discord channel ChristianK — i dag kl. 08:38 Without having had a look in the crystal ball, I would say: probably not. Matter can potentially be the “saviour of simple automations”, but deep product specific features (let’s take the overlay functionality on Mozart as an example) will probably not be exposed via Matter. To me, a good, local, open and preferably well documented API will win over Matter-compatibility any day. Don’t read this as “Matter is baaaad!”. I think it will make it much easier for “everyone” to do more stuff with their devices in general suing Matter, but if you like the nitty-griddy stuff like me, I don’t think it’s superior.

Sure, no doubt about that.
But if you just want to be able to control the light in your room/, it might be a different question.
Then Matter alone might be enough?

MM

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Just to end this thread, that I started, here is how my solution became as of now.
Maybe someone with similar questions can benefit from this.

 

First a big thank you too all, who participated…

Since I am not into any kind of automation, the money for a BLI or a BLGW and the time and efford to set this up, seemed to much for me – I went for the easier solution.
As stated earlier I was only interested in a solution for having control of multiple lamps and having different light scenes in my rooms.
The ditching of the old LC1/2 with the oldschool lamps was overdue.
Not just because of energy saving, but also the fact that slowly the Beo4’s  have become Beoremote Ones (ir -> bt).
When you get a Theatre setup in the main room, Beo4’s are finally of no use anymore…..and furthermore I did not want to keep these just for the sake of having the old LC-controls (yes, I know I am late to the party).

Every old bulb/lamp that previously was B&O LC-controlled now have become Hue lights…….set up in 4 rooms here.
Luckily a new Hue controller was launched not long ago – this has 4 programmable favourite buttons and a general dimmer function, which is all I need.

Ok, it certainly is not the solution, that I would have prefered – much nicer would be to be able to use the Light functions or maybe even the MyButtons on the BROne.
However it works and it works well!

Maybe some day the coming Matter integration of the Mozart products could allow for the use of the BROne/Light controls with the Hue setup?
The Hue Bridge seems to be Matter and Thread compatiple.
Could be a nice solution for someone like me, who, ‘only’ wants to be able to control the Lights and has no need for other automation stuff.

 

MM

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This could – at least theoretically – mean that, if you are not into the automation stuff….and just want to control e.g. Hue lights, this might be possible with the BROne/Halo using a Mozart product as the hub.
No need for a BLI in that particular case anymore, then!

Or am I expecting too much?

MM

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Hi Lonnie

Welcome on the new forum.

You can post pictures, if you use the ‘Visual’ tab and tab the little picture icon on the left (under ‘Paragraph’) – no need to use ‘attachments’, if it is about a picture (these are more meant for files).

And yes – I also have to listen to some Jeff Beck – RIP – today.

MM

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Mbee wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

P.S. Still a mystery to me what Matter support for the Mozart products will mean/bring us for our daily use MM

Simple : Matter is a standard, so if everything goes well, you won’t need any box like BLI or anything to control it (and create automations) via any home control system (Apple Home, or others)

That is kind of my understanding as well.
But why would we then need a new BLI version?
Maybe for mixed setups or???

MM

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@Emil
What you mean, can only be that the BLI also will support Matter (?).
But, does that really need a new version (BLI MK2) – or will that be done through sw update.

P.S.
Still a mystery to me what Matter support for the Mozart products will mean/bring us for our daily use ?

MM

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[Millemis]

Well done!

MM

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[Millemis]

You should be able to find the answer to your questions (and more) here:
https://cdn.webshopapp.com/shops/98396/files/334286248/beolink-converter-nlml-ver-14-beomac.pdf

MM

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@Mark
I do not know, if or how you use the MyButtons?
However, you could use one of these to start tv watching with just the Theatre.
Anything else stays as is.
That would simplify things even more.

MM

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[Millemis]

Also see:

Beosound Theatre: Virtual loudspeakers

MM

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@Hiort
Was that an update just for your BS1 or is it a general one?

MM

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beojeff wrote:

There could be a different solution for you. I’ve been considering the project of using a spare 3500 above a jacuzzi in my bedroom. For my project, I’ve considered using an NL/ML Converter with a ML Power Box — that’s the very tiny box that you must connect to the NL/ML Converter when there is no ML Audio or Video Master present. This would give you the AUX input of the NL/ML Converter as well as any sources such as Deezer, TuneIn, etc. that you get if you have any NL product such as just an inexpensive Beoplay M3. This would give you a great deal of flexibility of source buttons to which you could map the sources. Now that I have an extra NL/ML Converter and ML Power Box I have everything that I would need for the project.

That is a sophisticated setup – but probably a bit over the top of what Matador has aimed at.
Looking forward to hear about it, when you get it finished.

MM

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It is a long time ago since I played with these kind of setups and I don’t have the opportunity to try it out right now.

Using the A/V function/button before you hit a video button however, means that you adress an audio source.

Again from memory……..why should a ‘pure’ audio command not work?
After all the converters were meant to be used from an audio system to a videosystem (MCL respectively ML) and also the opposite way.

I you have an old MCL-based audiomaster (BM 4500/6500 etc), you could try out the 1611 with that to see if it works with audio commands from the 3500.

P.S. The 3500 should be in Option 6, which is factory setting.

MM

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To my knowledge there is no option of configuring the 1611…….
……..other than is has to be turned on by the mains as the last device, when setting things up.
Sort of self-configurating.

MM

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