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MillemisGOLD MemberHallo Dark_Aqua
Generel ein sehr schönes Setup.
Wäre interessant zu wissen welche Lautsprecher an Moment bzw an Essence angeschlossen sind und in welchen Räumen die Geräte verteilt sind.
Daraus könnten sich eventuel einige Empfehlungen ergeben.Ja, BS Moment ist ein Auslaufgerät – daran wird bestimmt nicht mehr gearbeitet…..es ist aber immer noch möglich ‘Ersatteile’ zu bekommen….ganz vergessen ist es von Seiten der B&O nicht.
Es ist was es ist – manche benutzen es immer noch gerne.
Es gibt keinen direkten Nachfolger davon.Essence MK2 ist die Generation 2, ja!
Im Gegensatz zu MK1 ist diese 2. Generation Beolink/Multiroom-fähig und wird immer noch mit Updates versorgt.
Ich habe zu Hause mehrere MK2’s in Betrieb……möchte sie nicht missen.
Der Nachfolger davon ist BS Core, aber der Unterschied zu Essence MK2 is nicht gross. Ein Austausch lohnt sich meiner Meinung nach nicht.
BS Core ist jetzt auch schon etwas älter – ein Nachfolger davon ist nicht in Sicht (man weiß aber nie mit B&O ?).Die Beovision 11-46 ist immer noch ein sehr schöner (und nützlicher) Fernsehen….mit einer Fülle von Möglichkeiten.
Es lohnt sich durchaus zwei (oder gar mehrere) Beolabs daran anzuschliessen.
Eigentlich eignen sich alle – es kommt auf den Geschmack, die Möglichkeit diese vernünftig im Raum zu plazieren, der Wunsch nach wie viel mehr ‘Klang’ und nicht zuletzt von dem Budget an.
Es müssen keine neuen Beolabs sein, können einige vom Second Hand Market sein.
Nicht zuletzt weil diese dann für Netradio, Spotify/Airplay-Streaming genutzt werden könnten, wäre es sinnvoll extra LS an BV11 zu haben……vorausgesetzt natürlich, daß der BV11 in das Heimnetzwerk eingebunden ist.
Um Empfehlungen zu geben, muß man mehr über deine/eure Wünsche etc wissen.MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberIf “this is not used anymore since airplay 2 was introduced” was true, the app (in this case the Apple Music app) would have indicated, that it was sending to multiple devices…..that is how AP2 works.
However, that was not the case….it was sending to (one of) my Essence boxes. From there the stream was distributed through the B&O Multiroom network.
Otherweise it would never have reached my V1 tv, which certainly does not has support for AP2!!!Airplay 2 has been supported on the B&O devices for several years now.
This is good for people prefering that – essential for people with non-B&O devices, that they also want to play to via AP2.
But that certainly does not mean, that AP over B&O Multiroom/Beolink is “not used anymore”.MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberVirker Volume kontrol egentligt fint med ARC forbindelse til Hall devicen?
Ja!
Yes, I did not notice any problems there.
Just use the remote of the tv.MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberThere must be some kind of misunderstanding there – probably on the side of the ‘support’.
No problems here either – works as usual, as intended.
Honestly….this would be a deep cut into the B&O Multiroom experience.See picture – this morning I started airplaying from the Apple Music app to an Essence, then joined in on my V1 (with Beo4), then expanded via the app to multiple devices (one of which is a Mozart product/BS Theatre).
All perfect and in sync.If you have further conversation with ‘the support’ please direct the guys to this thread.
Should there be any changes coming for this, I expect an official explanation/an announcement from B&O….not just something, that someone in ‘the support’ writes!
MM
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MillemisGOLD Member@Guy
Oh sorry, my bad ?It really is about the 7-32.
All I found was this….
….but that does not seem to work with the 7-32 of Stotty.There might be differences in the different versions of that tv.
It is too long ago that I had to deal with those BV….I do not remember anymore.MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberI guess those are questions for ‘Rotel’ experts…
You do not need to be an expert (a Rotel expert) for setting up the speakers.
Looking through the manual of the 1570 (page 41-44) reveals a pretty basic/normal/manual setup procedure like you find in many (older) A/V processors (no fancy automatic sw like Audyssey or Dirac Live there).You set up the speakers as ‘small, big….’, you can determine a specific crossover frequency for the sub and you have a section with a test tone generator (best used with an SPL meter) – that is all.
MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberAnyone with a BV10-32 at home….please comment!
MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberHi millemissen There is no audio master in the system that is why I wanted to upgrade the older Apple to a newer 4K mk2 that way they have they can watch all the tv shows and movies, and then play music via AirPlay to the main tv, but listen to the music on the passive kits they have round the house ?
Ok…..
……another option would be – after you have the new ATV installed and ready – to keep the old one (which has toslink out).
You can connect that via HDMI and use the toslink out to a converter to RCA.
The RCA (L/R) from the converter can then be connected to the analog input of the tv and this configured as a source.
This means that you will have sound, that is distributable on the ML, if you activate it (play to via Airplay) and push the choosen command on the Beo4.
This command should also activate the sound from the old ATV in the linkroom/s.By the way – you do not need the newest ATV version, an ATV/HD (if you can get one) will do the job on a BV10.
MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberI can assure you that the Hall device ‘sounds good’ – I have set up a few of those.
I still have the one I originally bought for testing – although no need for it at the moment, I will keep it…..just in case.Just use a splitter cable – which can be ordered with the device, if you’d need one.
Basicly, adding a sub like the BL2 needs a bit of experimenting to find the right spot in the room in order to minimize room mode problems.
MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberYou must be talking a ‘very’ old ATV……assuming that one has a toslink out.
Is there an Audiomaster in the setup?
If yes, that old ATV could be used as an Airplay receiver connected to the Audiomaster (using a toslink to analog/RCA adapter)……for distributing the sound over ML.And replace the ‘very’ old ATV with a newer – version 3 – ATV for video content on the BV10.
MM
Location: Flensborg————Danmark
MillemisGOLD MemberThe Beolab 18 are – as you say – powered speakers, but must be connected to a volume controlled line out of the amplifier/preamp.
That should not be a problem, if you want to use them for 2 channel listening.
I suppose you also aim at using them as the fronts in a multichannel setup.
This will require a good deal of calibration of the system (adjusting the output level for all channels etc), but should be doable.The BL18 have a wireless option, but they are not ‘smart speakers’ in the sense, that you can play directly to them – you will need a player (with volume regulated line-outs) or a device connected like you already do with your existing devices.
The wireless option is for transmitting sound from a WiSA enabled sender (like that in the B&O tv products or from 3rd party).
Please note!
The BL18 have 3 wired input connection – these can all be used……there is a priority.
This way you could have your preamp connected via RCA and run a toslink connection from a (volume regulated) 2 channel source (for streaming e.g. Spotify).Please have a look at this Q and A on this website (you will find that there by scrolling a bit).
MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberHi, What are the best options to connect Beolab 18 to LG C1 TV?
Wired or wireless???
MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberNimm nur die MK2 Version…..es sei denn du bekommst eine MK1 sehr billig und bist darauf eingestellt zu testen, ob es funktioniert für deinen Zweck ?
Die MK2 ist die ‘moderne’ Ausgabe, die noch upgedated wird und funktioniert (ich habe 4 Stück davon in Betrieb bei mir).
Die kannst du auch mit weiteren neueren B&O NetworkLink-Geräten verbinden…..falls mal noch welche dazu kommen sollten.Die BeoRemote One kannst du leicht selber einrichten.
Das ist alles gut beschrieben auf der Homepage bzw in der App.
Nicht vergessen…..du brauchst die BT Version von der BROne!Du kannst aber auch deine Essence MK2 mittels der App von B&O bedienen (die brauchst du eh zum Einrichten/konfigurieren). Die BROne brauchst du nicht unbedingt!!
In der Sektion für Ton dort mußt du auswählen, daß die Essence Box an einen Beosound angeschlossen ist – danach den Ton/die Lautstärke wie gewohnt über deine Beosound 4 regulieren.
Du kannst gerne hier nachfragen, wenn es so weit ist und du weitere Hilfe brauchst.
MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberI am looking forward to learn how that will work on a daily basis.
So, please post the results here.MM
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MillemisGOLD Member@Guy
The ‘fixed BS9000 line-level output to the BT transmitter’ worries me.
How would you control the volume for the headphones in that case?MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberYou already have the cable needed for connecting the Beogram to the 9000…..unless this was changed!
It is the normal datalink cable, that is mounted on every BG6500 (DIN 7 pin).I do not know of any such device – as said……..plug in and out manually, when needed.
These BT adapter (transmitter with minijack for the headphone connection) can easily be found online.
I am not sure how good they are, though!MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberWhy not connect the Beogram directly to the 9000?
Then you’d need only one connection to the line-in of the Moment.As for the BT question – if you ‘only’ want to send from the 9000/Beogram, you could use a BT transmitter with the 9000 headphone connection (which you’d – of course – would have to plug in and out).
MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberThat is the normal behaviour, when you have ‘Quick Start’ activated (as the name says).
That goes for all sources!When you want to see the logo (and save a few pennies for power), then just avoid the Quick Start.
Setting the ATV to ‘always on’ makes the ATV screen appear right away.
MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberAnd you can ‘expand’ to other Network Linked devices using the B&O app.
MM
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MillemisGOLD MemberThat is for the built-in DVB Tuner.
Sort of an afterthought, since it/that version originally only had an analog tuner.MM
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