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That model has many electrolytic caps that by now have started to fail. That is usually the cause of it spinning backwards. You should start by replacing them in the power supply and motor/coil section. Once you’ve confirmed correct and stable voltages then you can see if there are other issues.
I would continue to check for the proper power supply voltages to the different modules. Even though all the fuses are fine, a unit this old can have failed or failing electrolytic capacitors. I believe the tuner section has at least one rail dedicated to it (12v) and you also will need +-33 to the chip power amps.
You have one foot still attached on the front right about 6″ in. I believe they are bigger than those for the Beograms but you can compare their part numbers in respective service manuals.
While I have not done it myself, the screws as seen in the parts figures are not threaded but keyed. Since they depend upon gravity to drop down, they could be simply stuck and once in the proper release orientation be pried downward with a spudger.
You may have not gotten an answer earlier because your question is confusing since the Beogram 8000 control panel is made of plastic so scratches do not reveal a different color. I know of no way to fill in and blend this that will not make it visually worse due to the matte finish.
If you want to get rid of the hum then you have to take action.
- Try the connection with/without the ground connection and report the results.
- The ground wire needs to be connected to a solder lug on a screw terminal under the back right top plate that you can remove by pulling the wood trim forward.
- From that same lug, there should be a connection to the black multi-pin connector.
Please see the excellent video by Beolover
As I stated don’t even bother with sourcing a DIN cable. For the RCA one, they can either take quality bulk cable such as Mogami or Cardas and terminate one end with quality RCAs or you can buy a premade RCA-RCA cable and they can remove/cut the connectors on one side.
Unless you are connecting the table to a unit with a DIN input you do not need to put back the DIN cable. While that is a cheap RCA cable it is one that B&O used on later 4004s and many others. If the hum does not change when using the ground wire to your phono inputs it’s likely that it’s not properly grounded internally. I have replaced many of these and it needs to be done correctly since the DIN cable has a double shield system. Are you comfortable with soldering? If not a competent tech can do this but I would simply use a higher quality RCA cable.
Sorry, there was a typo in my response. I meant 88cm.
This is not recommended due to the risk of condensation shorting out or corroding the electronics. I would recommend you bring them out only when you are enjoying the good weather and views.
Martin: Do you know what that preset time would be?
This time is not adjustable and is only a few seconds sufficient to close/open the drawer. The issue is that the motor should not be continuing to run. Since it is seeing 13v when closed, the OpAmps are active. Since the drawer does open and close, the signals from the two pins of 1C8 are working, but may not be resetting.
Thanks Martin. This then means you need to check how long those pins are active in each direction. If the go back low once the drawer closes then I would look at the OpAmp driver circuit to see if there is a bad cap for example that is keeping the output latched.
Those relays are not likely your problem as they only govern pre-emphasis and end up simply bypassing a resister. Your best bet is to try and trace a test tone from a CD. If you don’t have a scope an AC multimeter can work if your tone is a bass one.
17 April 2022 at 02:17 in reply to: Restore or upgrade Beolab / Beovox Penta Crossovers MK1 vs MK2 #34220It is not recommended that you switch topology types as many of those changes are in notch filters and B&O likely had different drivers or a different batch that needed compensation. As far as parts quality, since all bands are in parallel and there are a lot of parts, I would focus on replacing any electrolytics in the mid and tweeter circuits with poly caps as it does not appear there are any iron-core inductors in there. Check out either the Dayton or Fast PA Series from Solen. I have had excellent results with these.
My recommendation would be to add an RIAA board inside such as https://www.ebay.com/itm/185373986428?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=i_P7_Iv4Tsu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=WrB3U2kWQBO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY. This is just an example of one that can run off of the +12v single supply. I’m sure there are higher quality ones if you scout around. You can find the user and service manuals on Beocentral.com.
I know the muting board had the additional pattern so it could be the same for the main board. It is easy enough for you to check. In any case the newer sealed ones are your long term solution.
There is no switch involved. The direction and action is controlled by two pins, 21 and 22 on IC8 that provide a differential voltage to dual op-amp IC9. I do not have access to the service manual that may explain how end of travel is sensed.
There are two springs that govern the damped closing of the cover. This is discussed at the end of the service manual at https://beomanuals.com/manuals/Beocord/Beocord%205000/Beocord_5000-Service_Manual-version4.pdf.
I am afraid you need to open the top to get to the adjustment for the photo sensor. It’s described in the service manual available at https://beomanuals.com/manuals/Beogram/Beogram%206002/Beogram_6002-Service_Manual.pdf. You can also view a video on how to open it on Rudy’s site at https://beolover.blogspot.com/2017/07/beogram-8000-opening-beogram-to-service.html.
I’m afraid you are going to need to open it up to access the adjustment. This is explained in the service manual at https://beomanuals.com/manuals/Beogram/Beogram%206002/Beogram_6002-Service_Manual.pdf. You can also check out Rudy’s video on opening it up at https://beolover.blogspot.com/2017/07/beogram-8000-opening-beogram-to-service.html.
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