[Madskp]

Hello Sergio. I have tried contacting you a couple of times through the private message function regarding sending the package with the Audiokit for the AV 9000. So in case you haven’t got any notifications about these messages here is a heads up.

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[Madskp]

I guess it comes down to the number of available sources in a Masterlink setup, and the workarounds we tried in that other thread is not enough to overcome this fact.

One extra possible workaround that comes to mind is if the Moment can be set to something like Option 4 where it only responds to Link + commands. I do not know if that is even a thing since it is a NL product. But if that works you could use it through the Tape 2 input without double commands.

I know other members have taken the more equipment heavy route with seperate NL/ML converters for each ML source. An example of this is this post where user Tignum has a drawing of his system with several NL/ML converters https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/possible-to-use-two-ml-nl-converters-instead-of-ml-cable/#post-62861

That way it is possible to rename sources across the converters and choose which sources are available where, still with the limitation of the max number of available ML sources in each ML subsystem.

I have not tried this myself, but there are several threads with examples like this on the forum

Hope this helps solving the issue

 

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[Madskp]

You might be able to find some hints in this guide that also has a lot of pictures and recommandations for capacitor replacements

https://beolover.blogspot.com/2021/06/beogram-cd50-typical-restoration-steps.html?m=1

• This reply was modified 1 week, 4 days ago by Madskp.

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[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

Use Masterlink to connect the BS4 to a Beolink Active 1636 (and IR sensor – the ‘hockey puck’ type) co-located with the Denon amp.  Then use a cable like this to connect the BL Active’s Powerlink output to the Denon amp’s aux input.  If the BS4 and Denon amp are in the same room, put the BS4 in A.OPT 0 and remote control it through the BL Active’s IR sensor.  You will have a double volume control situation, able to control volume with either the B&O remote or the Denon amp (but not via the volume buttons on the BS4).

I would also suggest that spolution as a possiblity. One way to avoid the double volume control is to use the fixed audio output in the PC connector on the Beolink active (only type 1636). This will need some custom cabling at the pinout of this conenction is not the same as the Powerlink outputs. See this thread for more info about the pinpout https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beolink-active-1636-pc-input/#post-43100

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[Madskp]

Hakan kutluk wrote:

Hallo friend

I have exactly the same problem. I have changed the optical laser, nothing has changed, this time test code shows the “7” wich means data transfer problems.

CD spins but doesnt play. Next thing I’m going to do is to recap but I’m not sure if it’s gonna work.

Hello. I did not have any error codes as far as I remember, but changing only the laser did not solve my initial problem that it could not play a CD.

After recapping it started playing CD’s again, and based on other members experiences a combination of both recapping and laser replacing might be needed.

Hakan kutluk wrote:

Did you have any success in the mean time?

Well my problem where I have to press CD twice has re appered. I have tried to clean all the gears and reapply new grease, but that did not change anything.

I have found out that one of my other defect Ouvertures has the same servo board so I might try to make some mix and match to see if anything changes.

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[Madskp]

Madskp wrote:

Also I recently found a servicemanual on Archive.org that among a lot of MCL2 link equipment also cover the Audiokit for AV9000.

Here is a direct link for the servicemanual on archive.org https://ia904506.us.archive.org/11/items/manual_MCL2AV_SM_BANGOLUFSEN_EN/MCL2AV_SM_BANGOLUFSEN_EN.pdf

It describes how the Audiokit should be setup in regards of option settings

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[Madskp]

Not sure if you are asking for help or just being frustrated.

But regarding the PUC list for Beovision 10 this has never been user upgradeable to my knowlegde, so you might need to find a dealer who can help with upgrading the PUC list to get the Apple TV PUC on your set

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[Madskp]

The manual library on site is not yet fully updated. But if you contact @multicare I am sure Mark will look if any other AV9000 documents are available

Also I recently found a servicemanual on Archive.org that among a lot of MCL2 link equipment also cover the Audiokit for AV9000.

 

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[Madskp]

Also worth noting is that the BC9500 has both a phono and a tape2 connection where the BC9300 use the same connection for both of these commands

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[Madskp]

Take a look at his thread that seem to have a lot of info regarding differences between the two

https://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/t/31120.aspx

I have a BC9300 and am very satisfied with it. Might miss the 2 way though as I acquired a Beolink 7000

Link capabilities are the same (MCL and datalink) so should make no difference compared to your BC8500

Some of the BC9300 has the newer linear CD mechanism which might be more prone to laser failure than the older types.

 

 

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[Madskp]

Actually never tried to get a source from NL to ML, only the other way. If I find the time I might try how it workswith a source from my Beoplay V1 TV to some ML equipment

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[Madskp]

Just noticed  that you mentioned IR mapping settings. Have you tried the sources mapped to ML in the NL/ML converter settings?

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[Madskp]

Oh and just remebered that the direct control from the Beocenter buttons also require the BV7 to be Video master, so willnot work with my suggestion to put the BV7 in v.opt 6

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

“Thanks for the suggestion, but alas, it didn\u0027t work.\u00a0 The results were the same.\n\n\u00a0\n\nI also tried removing everything else out of the network – just the BV7 and the BC8500 connected together (via the 1611), and found something unexpected – if I select a source on the BC8500 panel, the speakers don\u0027t power on.\u00a0 They\u0027ll only power on if I select a source on the remote.\n\nI assume this is a limitation of the 1611, and that won\u0027t work for me, so I\u0027ll go back to using the BS4 in that room, I think.”

The direct control from the BC8500 buttons will only work if you also connect a powerlink cable between the 1611 and the BC8500.

That however does not explain the other issue

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

“Today I attempted my experiment using both a 1611 converter and an NL\/ML converter in the same system.\u00a0 It didn\u0027t work.\n\nThe 1611 is doing its job – my speakers are connected to my BV7 TV and if I select Phono (or N.Radio) as a source, my BG8500 starts up and I hear it, and I can control it by remote.\u00a0 Therefore the 1611 is doing its job – taking the A.Aux link from my Beocenter 8500 and bringing it into my ML network.\u00a0 And yes – I did ensure everything else was already connected before I powered the 1611!\n\nHowever, I cannot get sources to play from my Essence Mk2.\u00a0 I have tried using the NL\/ML converter\u0027s options to make it work but it won\u0027t.\u00a0 For example I have tried mapping source DVD2 (which was unused) to the Essence for N.Radio, but when I press DVD2 on my Beo4, I get nothing.\u00a0 I\u0027ve tried the same with N.Music too – but got nothing.\n\nUsing the B\u0026O app (on Android), if I start to play digital music from my NAS, or B\u0026O radio, it shows as playing in the app, but I get nothing else.\n\nThe NL\/ML converter has a log page and all I am getting is this, when I try to select DVD2 as a source:\n\nMar 16 10:06:02 (none) BLC[1141]: [info]:Client disconnected. Message: Socket error. Error: Broken pipe, ErrorCode: 32 [Notifier.cpp:233]\nMar 16 10:06:02 (none) BLC[1141]: [info]:Dismissing HTTP Response due to errorState [Http.cpp:349]\n\nSo, it\u0027s looking like the BL Converters from two generations aren\u0027t going to talk to each other.\u00a0 Shame.\n\nI\u0027ll leave it all wired up for now in case anyone has any questions, solutions or ideas!”

I guess that your BV7 is setup as V.master (opt. 2), and if you have also setup the NL/ML converter as V.master they will conflict.

If you do not need to share the sources from the BV7 you could try to set it up as a link room (v.opt. 6) which can then get the sources from both the Audio master (1611+BC8500) and video master (NL/ML converter).

Hope that is usefull

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[Madskp]

Multicare wrote:

“\nMadskp wrote:\nquote the first post in af forum thread\nI am aware of an issue with the quote system, I am currently writing a replacement which should work better that the version currently installed.\nI hope to have it released by the end of next week.”

Great, thanks 😀

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[Madskp]

Just noticed a strange issue. For some reason I do not seem to be able to quote the first post in af forum thread.

Just noticed it in the thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/advice-needed-bought-a-new-house-and-want-to-use-bo-speakers-left-behind/#post-64505

But it also seem to be the case in other threads I look at

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[Madskp]

Madskp wrote:

CharlieWednesday wrote: I got my BC8500 and BG8500 out of storage this weekend, so was able to carry out one more test: Test 5 – BC8500  > MLL2AV > BL Penta – Partial Pass Connected via PL Mk2 cables so they will transmit the display data, but no display on the Pentas.  Sound was fine, but no display. Thanks or taking the time to test it. I thought for sure that configuration would work with the dispays on the Penta’s.

I did go through all my MCL2 documentation but did not find any mentioning of the speaker display data not being showed with a MCL2AV.

Can I ask if you did have the equipment in the same room when testing and if so if the  BC8500 was in option 0? Reason for asking this is that the soundpath will work even if there is a problem with the data connection between the BC8500 and MCL2AV, and both units would be activated by your remote presses thus giving the impression that it works as intended

 

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[Madskp]

A couple of hopefully useful hints/clarifying questions from here

• A Beolink Passive amp is not needed for the speakers you have mentioned as these are active speakers
• You do mention that the Beolab 3500 shows the clock. Is that before or after you connect the Beosound 3000? The reason for asking this is that the clock is supplied from the main system and I wonder if there are any hidden components that you might not be aware of.
• The Beolab 3500 is a link speaker and can not be activated directly from the Beosound 3000. You do need a Beolink 1000 or Beo4 remote to active the Beolab 3500. However if you already have a source started locally on the Beosound 3000 you should be able to join that by pressing the mute button on the Beolab 3500
• Is there an IR eye in the room with the Beolab 4000’s? It is most likely a round silver metal puck with some black plastic buttons on https://beostaeren.dk/cdn/shop/products/B_O_IR_eyes_740x.jpg?v=1578725603 If there is this is most likely setup as a link room and the same control issues as mentioned for the Beolab 3500 applies here.

So like Millemissen mention, get a B&O remote control if you do not already have that will probably be the best advice for starters.

Hope this helps

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I got my BC8500 and BG8500 out of storage this weekend, so was able to carry out one more test: Test 5 – BC8500  > MLL2AV > BL Penta – Partial Pass Connected via PL Mk2 cables so they will transmit the display data, but no display on the Pentas.  Sound was fine, but no display.

Thanks or taking the time to test it. I thought for sure that configuration would work with the dispays on the Penta’s.

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I know that the BC8500 will want to go to Phono while the Essence will want to go to N.Radio in response to the PH remote command, but I should be able to get around that using the IR Mapping capability of the NL/ML converter.

Yes probably you can make some workaround, maybe an unused video source can be used. However I am unsure how it will work with the BV7. Probably ok if that video source is not setup to a connection on the BV7

 

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