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That’s good to know – hopefully all this information will be useful for someone else one day, not just us geeks!
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Madskp wrote: I just wonder why this does not work with the BV8 and BV10? Perhaps because BVs 8 and 10 (unlike the BC6-23) were introduced when digital TV tuners were around, hence the availability of what should be a much more accurate time signal with the TV signal. It’s a shame that this signal will not update attached ML devices, both audiomasters and BL3500.
Technology change could be a reason yes, or maybe going away from the timer function. But yes a shame.
I think that the advice from B&O would be to turn off the time display on the BL3500!!
Yes, a nice and quick fix 🙂 Alternativly take it to the dealer to have the time updated.
Yet another aside/thread drift: The CD player is starting to behave erratically on my older two-way BC2300 – some (not all) discs turn then make noises and spin rapidly backwards! It has the older CDM-4, curved-laser-path CD mechanism and a bit of research suggests that it may be worth replacing C100 on the servo board (the BC2300 equivalent of C2103 on other models). It’s 47uF according to the Service Manual and I know from other threads that I must fit a blue axial Philips/BC – can anyone link me to an exact item that I can click to purchase in UK? I checked Danish Sound Parts and can’t see a capacitor kit for the BC2300 CD board, but I am sure that I have read somewhere that BC9300 was basically a re-packaged BeoCenter 2500 so I wonder if there is read-across from other kits.
Searching google I can see that it is possible to find the blue axial Philips caps in 47uf value, so maybe just buy and try.
Funnily enough, whilst swapping CDs between players last night one of my BeoSound 1s suddenly decided to refuse to play CDs! I simply put it in Test Mode and ran through the CD tests to ‘exercise’ the CD mechanism and it started working perfectly again! That suggests a sticky CD mechanism to me and it probably needs cleaning/lubricating, or just using more frequently!
That is indeed interesting how much effect old sticky lubrication might have on these CD player issues in case of the linear laser mechanisms. Maybe I should try to look into that on one of the defect Ouvertures that I got recently, but thats for another thread 🙂
The older (two-way IR) BC2300 behaves exactly like the newer one. I connected it just to the BL1611 and BL3500, and at 1104hrs the time appeared on the BeoLab, showing 1900hrs.
Do you think it is coincidence that it shows a on the hour clock to start with or is there something else going on? You should be able to set the clock in the two way BC2300, right? Can you see the time on the display of the BC2300 to verify?
added the NL/ML Converter temporarily to the mix just to update the clock in the BC2300 and then removed it. I powered down/up the BL3500 and the time disappeared, only to re-appear at 1200hrs (showing 1200hrs), clearly having received an ‘on the hour’ clock update message from the BC2300.
And interestingly enough if the clock gets updated in this scenario where you should be able to set the clock on the two way BC2300 (if I am right in my earlier question?).
As an aside (thread drift) I have noticed that with the system at stand-by, when selecting BC2300 sources in the link room, the speakers in the main room are turned on as well (in this case actually a Passive that clicks into life). Option settings are correct and this happens with both BC2300s, and with a different BL1611. It may be a limitation of using the BC2300 with a BL1611, but seems strange so I will investigate further.
This is a side effect of the Passive being able to support MCL rooms (I think we had this up in another thread) so it is waked up by the powerlink signal on pin 1 to be ready to serve MCL link rooms.
So the passive is not optimal for driving passive speakers in the main room. Might be solved by making an adapter that switch pin 1 and 4 in the powerlink cable though.
Madskp wrote: So my best guess is that the MCL2AV does not establish a data connection with the 1611/BC6-23 before it has been initialised, which in this case first seems happen after the TV has activated the MCL2AV a couple of times.
This must be why it stopped working for me, then came back to life.
Looking through a user manual for the MCL2 system I noticed this passage:
Not sure if it has to do with the issue we have experienced, but it sounds like the use of a local source on a MCL2AV has some first time initialization when used with a MCL master. I wonder if this affects how the local source is interperted when there is not an MCL master present, and if that could cause the non responsive behaviour.
Getting back to my Ouverture project I have now per Guy’s suggestion in another thread tried to play a CD which use the full 74 minute playtime. I have played it several times, and the Ouverture can play the whole CD without problems. The problem that I have to press CD twice to get the CD spinning remains however. I have tried to reflow alle the new capacitors just in case one of them had a bad connection, but that did not make any difference. The updated part of the servicemanual for the CDM laser available at Beoworld has this passage which might very well be what I am experiencing:
However section 5 is not in the update for the servicemanual, and the procedure described in the older servicemanual is for a PCB with two trimmer potentiometers which is not on the PCB in my Ouverture 
So I wonder if a newer version of section 5 in the servicemanual is available? Also I would have to get hold of the described test CD to do these adjustmentsIn trying to fix this I picked up two defective Ouvertures hoping that another CD servo board might make a difference.
I disassembled my own unit and the one of the defective ones only to discover that they have another type of servo board (and also laser I guess).
Dissapointed I reassebled my own unit, and discovered that now the CD starts playing at first press on CD button both on the front panel and the remote.
So this endedup being a succes, and I got some other spare parts out of it 😀
Now I just hope this will last.
One thing I notice on the defective units is that the have software 1.4 where my original unit have 1.2.
Not sure if it makes sence to upgrade it?
I read in an old thread the option 5 and 6 is available from sw 2.1 which could be interesting,
