[Madskp]

I think I know the buzzing noise you are mentioning. When I have had issues with this it has been related to datalink issues, in some cases experimental cable connections.

So a hint could be to disconnect everything that is datalink connected (which also counts Powerlink and MCL connections) and check for loose connectors. Also maybe connect things one at a a time to see if a specific device trigger the buzzing.

Hope this can lead to a solution

Btw. you mention SW 1.6 in the BM4500, but to my best knowledge that should not work with two way remotes, but I might be wrong.

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[Madskp]

Supplementing info. It looks like my post in the Bsys3 Bsys4 thread came thru after all but with the quotes not functioning correct, so something is wrong. Also in the above post I tried to link to that thread with the same error which is why I have not linked to the thread

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[Madskp]

I have issues answering threads. I get a Error establishing Redis connection if I have links or quotes in the post

 

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Rolf2 wrote:

@Madskap: Thanks a lot for the link to the respective thread. I will check with my dealer, if this cable will be still available. If not, maybe Steve can help. From my experience, the DVD 2 needs both connections, HDMI and Scart. The BSys 3 seems to connect them together automatically, if you choose the right connection plugs (in my case HDMI-In 3 and Scart 3). I do not know, if the BSys 4 does put the mini-AV and HDMI „XY“ automatically together, very likely not.

I just tested on my Beoplay V1 (that is based on the Bsys 4 platform), and I am not able to setup a connection where I combine the AV socket with a HDMI socket, so I guess you would depend on using the analog video signal for the DVD2 if you want to be able to control it with the remote.

Rolf2 wrote:

@Madskap: Thanks again for hinting me to the Beolink handbook. Did not think about that. The panel has a built in IR receiver, so I prefer to establish a direct connection between the BSys and the panel for IR control. There is also a specific cable for connecting the BSys 3 (Monitor control) and the panel. In this case I would need a rj-45 to DSUB9 cable for connecting to the BSys 4. I can find one from Panasonic on the internet, but it seems to be available on the Japanese market only, and I do not know, if it will be the right one.

Ok so does that mean that the IR has a separate cable between the BV4 and Bsys 3? In that case a converter cable could bed made, but probably as a DIY solution if the Pinout can be detected.

Rolf2 wrote:

BeoMedia 1

The Beomedia 1 could probably be connected via a VGA to HDMI adapter. Note that there are simple cable adapter for the other way, but in this case It has to be one that converts the analog signal til digital. I can see that some of them also can get sound from the “PC” to HDMI.

For control as you mention yourself an external IR eye, and then setup the HDMI connection on the Bsys 4 to PC command. I guess that should work.

 

Rolf2 wrote:

I am thinking of connecting the BSys 3 as external source to the HDMI-In of the BSys 4. The question will be, how to start the sources connected to the BSys 3, once it is selected via BSys 4?

If the Bsys 3 can be set in option 4 all commands will be Link + commands with will not interfere with the Bsys 4. That way you could control it, but not very user friendly.

 

For your Beolab. speakers you will also need some DIN to Rj45 adapters.

Also do you connect to a Masterlink Network? Then you will also need a NL/ML converter in the mix

with all these extra cables/adapters, and the risk of limitation on your sources you might have to consider what benefits you gain from the Bsys 4 compared to the Bsys 3. Is it worth the upgrade when you keep using the BV4?

If you just need it to be NL compatible you could add an NL/ML converter to your existing setup.

 

 

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[Madskp]

Glad to hear you figured it out.

Testing stuff that is not fully assembled can sometimes introduce veird anomolies

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[Madskp]

In the Beolink Handbook ver. 2.1 (available in the Beotech section) the whirring for the IR eye for both Bsys 3 and 4 is shown for IR eye’s bot with and without auto contrast. From what I can you should be able to replace the existing cable in the IR eye with a standard network cable instead following the whirring diagrams in the Beolink handbook.

Also in the Beolink handbook is the part numbers for the two types of 9 pin mini DIN to start cable. There is both one with a Female and a male scart. part numbers in the screenshot below:

 

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Rolf2 wrote:

– Is it possible to connect my DVD 2 to the BSys 4 and how?

For connection of the DVD2 you will have to use the AV socket on the Bsys 4 in order to control the DVD2. B&O made a 9 Pin DIN to start start cable for this purpose. Not sure if that is available anymore. More info about this can be found in this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beoplay-v1-connection-old-stuff/

Other old thread suggest that you can also use HDMI to connect the DVD2 to a TV, but you will still need the start connection in order to get control. Not sure how this is setup on the Bsys 4 connection menu.

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[Madskp]

Not sure what it could be, but maybe a hint for fault finding. Does it do it both with the automatic function when you place it on a table, and when the manuel move on the setup menu is used?

If it is only in automatic mode it could maybe be related to the activation switches.

 

On another note belt size and tension can  be very important. I was advised about the belt size in this post for reference: https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beolink-7000-belt/#post-66838

 

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

As ever, thanks for all the invaluable help, Madskp.

You are welcome, and glad to hear that it worked for you. I also became a little wiser about how this integration of the BS5 with an other audiomaster works. Till now I have thought of the option of Audimaster = 0 as the same as a link room, but it seems to be the way to integrate it with an other audiomaster, but you will loose the possibility for Spotify and A.AUX sources on it.

 

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[Madskp]

Just did a little test with my Beossound 5 (AM = NO), Beocenter 2 (opt. 0) and Beocenter 6-23 Tv (opt. 2).

This seems to work, although the first time I selected N.music I had to activate it manually on the BS5 buttons after I had activated the source with the remote (which did activate the BC2, BC6 and got the picture showing on the BS5). The controls might not be optimal, and as mentioned earlier I have yet to see an official setup guide for this combination, so might not be a fully supported scenario.

One issue that came up while testing, and might only be related to a failure in my system: at one point the music started to be scratching like a bad radio signal and after that I never got the music playing again, although still having full control of the BS5 with the remote.

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[Madskp]

Before you tidy the wirering to much you might want to check how the BS4 and BS5 behave togheter with the overlapping commands

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[Madskp]

A way to test the BS4 is to set it in opt 1 and connect it to your Bl3500 and see if that will work together

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[Madskp]

There might be some indicators of how to set the BS5 in this post https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/making-a-beosound-5-an-auxiliary-to-a-beosound-9000/#post-51322

Besides that I guess the BS 4 should be set to opt 0 since the BS3 has the IR control (opt.2)

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

So, I tried putting the Beosound 5 into Audio Slave mode and putting the Beosound 4 into A.Opt 0, with my Beosystem 3 in V.Opt 2, but then no audio source worked at all – only video sources worked via my Beo4 or Beo6 remotes.  It I played a CD direct from the BS4’s CD button, it played, but no sound.

Hmmm yes this is tricky since you have the BS3 receiving the IR signals. That means that maybe both the BS4 and BS5 should be in option 0. But Again not sure how the overlapping sources will work.

Slave mode should not work as far as I can tell since a link room can not share it’s sources with the main room.

I might be able to do some tests on my system tomorrow

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[Madskp]

The BS4 and BS5 might be able to coexist in a ML network as mentioned in this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-4-and-5-together/

However I have not seen any official setup guides for this, but BS4 can work with Beoport with the N.music and N.Radio sources.

However the BS5 slso has A.Aux and A.mem (spotify), and CD if a ripper is connected, so not sure how and if these overlapping sources can be handled.

i might be able to try some setups with my bC2 and BS5 to see how things are handled in that setup

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

Thanks for the info.  I think I had misunderstood how to use the service tool.  I had hit the 3 buttons to update the firmware, btu I had not realised I also had to hit ‘Clone Entire HDD’ in order to install the latest software (and also reset it to factory settings).

I now have 7.00.00.0511, and I see there are several updated features, including Music Services (for Spotify), and the option to use my NAS for music storage, which is really useful as my music collection is already on there.

Great to hear that it was possible to get it updated 🙂

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I have my speaker connected to my Beosystem 3, and I also have my Beocenter 9500 connected to that same ML network (via a 1611 converter).  I know that Spotify will only work on the BS5 if it is set as the Audio Master, so does anyone know, is there any way to set my BC9500 so it can still be used, in the same room as the BS5?  It’s important to me as I like playing vinyl, and my BG9500 is connected to my BC9500.

I am afraid you are back to the issue we have been discussing in other threads that only one Audio master is possible in a ML network, and since you both wan’t the BS5 to be a master and the BC9500 can only be a master (through the 1611) you will run into problems.

My best suggestion as also mentioned in this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/a-aux-link-masterlink-and-network-link-3-bo-generations-together-3/#post-65064 will be to get 2 NL/ML converters and make two separate ML networks and choose via the converters which sources can be used where.

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[Madskp]

I am pretty sure that I used the software package and tools from post #47089 at the top of this page, and I have version 7.00.00.0511

I don’t remember which version was on my BS5 before I restored it, so I can not be sure if there could be issues if you update from an older version. However I belive that you should be able to restore to an empty drive from that tool, so should be possible.

Have only been doing the restore once to be sure that all was factory reset, so not much experience with the tool.

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[Madskp]

Good to hear it worked out succesfull 😀

As an added bonus you can use the 2 other connectors for an extra source (computer, phone, MP3 player, Record player etc.) that can be activated with the TV command if needed

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Josef Schnieders wrote:

That adapter looks like a solution, I’ll have a look if it’s available in Germany (or EU).

 

It should be. I just searched for 5 Pin DIN 4 RCA

 

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[Madskp]

A cable like this  https://www.amazon.co.uk/kenable-Degree-Phono-Female-Sockets-Red/dp/B06XDXJLHR  can be an easy way to utilise both inputs on the 1611 converter

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