[Madskp]

The problem here is that the problem can be both software or electronics.

If you want to dive in to the electronic side of it I might have a hint here.

Since there are not schematics of these kind of newer products I have been looking at the schematics for Beolink Active and Beolink Passive just to see if anything obvious shows up.

It seems that for those the IR signal is connected to the microcomputer with only a resistor in between. The resistor is not likely to fail. However these units also has a protection diode to ground, and that could fail. A screenshot from the Beolink passive service manual to clarify what I am talking about

If you can locate a diode with the same purpose in the Essence you can meassure if it has continuty in only on or both directions whre the latter would indicate a failed diode.

Hope this can be usefull for the further proces of fault finding

[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

(But I still can’t get IR control to work – annoyingly!)

Did you ever get any answer from B&O support regarding that issue?

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Multicare wrote:

The link wont work. it is on beoworld.org rather than forum.beoworld.org, it is from an old test part of the site which should not have been accessible.

Ok that explains the layout, but vierdly enough both me and the other member had acces and was getting notifications

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Multicare wrote:

Madskp wrote:

I have a thread that doe not have the correct page layout, and does not appear to be in any forum catgory. However I am getting notifications when a new post is made in the thread, and so must the other person posting do. The thread is here https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beocenter-2-cd-tray-belt/#post-29706

This has been resolved now

Thanks, I can find it now with the search funtion. But it looks like some of the most recent posts in the thread is missing, and therefor the direct link from before is not working anymore

[Madskp]

I have a thread that doe not have the correct page layout, and does not appear to be in any forum catgory. However I am getting notifications when a new post is made in the thread, and so must the other person posting do. The thread is here https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beocenter-2-cd-tray-belt/#post-29706

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CharlieWednesday wrote:

You were right – the DIN connection was quite poor because of the recess in the casing. If I pushed it in more firmly, it gave a better connection.

Good to hear that was also the case with yours and ended up making it better

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CharlieWednesday wrote:

Oh, that looks cool. That’s in my bookmarks now, hopefully they will bring that to market. That’s exactly what I need, and if I understood it right, might also be able to bring datalink controls back to the Beogram 3000 I have connected to by Beosound 4.

Yes it will be very interesting to see what they might bring to market. The possibilities are endless, but in the end it may rely on a buisness case how many variations they end up making

[Madskp]

Not much knowledge about the Beosound Moment, but have noticed quite a few threads about dead tablet which might be a dealbreaker.

As for updates and software support for streaming services I would not count on it.

However if used with a NL/ML converter it is possible to t define which ML source the NL sources will be. So music from the moment can be set to be N.Music, or also a Video source which will free up the N.Music for other sources on the ML network

If you are patient I think Hall Audio is working on something togheter with Polyvection that could be what you are looking for. I am not sure if it has been mentioned much her on Beoworld, but there was an episode about it on the Beotalk Podcast on youtube not long ago https://www.youtube.com/live/_9yRGFLIepY?si=mdYDLxA3iMGvTSPy

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Based on this post the outer ring in the DIN connector has a separate wire on a Beogram 2000, so pretty sure that must be a ground connection https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/how-to-wire-7-din-plug-to-beogram/#post-53422

My parents has the same cheap Riaa amplifier as you have (you mentioned in another post). I remember  the  first time I connected it there was some hum. I noticed that because the DIN connectors on the RIAA is recessed the outer casing on the wire DIN plugs can be a little fidely to get into the the connector. It was like it had to be alligned very precisly to get the connector get to the bottom. Hope that makes sense

I know your problem is not hum, but a bad connection can make all sorts of trouble, so maybe worth to try

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pilatomic wrote:

Even then, despite the Datalink protocol being design to have a Beogram and a Beocord on the same bus (only from a data bus point of view, not the audio), I don’t think the Beosound has kept that capability in its firmware.

It has the capability. That is what I have tested without the audio signals as mentioned in the first post. I think B&O has made it this way so datalink will work wheether the AUX connection is used with a Beogram or a Beocord, although only one at a time.

pilatomic wrote:

Datalink sources always drive the audio lines, and it’s up to the receiver to select which source to listen to.

Which means a simple “Y” cable can not be used to connect 2 sources, it would require an active device, that would select which of the sources audio is sent to the to Beosound.

And this missing source selection caused by only one physical AUX input might be the reason for this not to be a good idea to use with an Y-cable.

It could be interesting with an external datalink controlled audio selection switch for this purpose, but the number of people who would use it might be very limited since this scenario only applies to Beosound Ouverture and Beocenter 9300 as far as I can figure out.

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Guy wrote:

Normally I’d refer you to the service manuals (avail to Silver & Gold members), but here are screenshots from the relevant sections. I am not convinced that it is straightforward but if you can get it to work please come back and let us know how! BV11: BV10:

I would no be to sure that these stands are compatible. 12V on one vs 14V on the other. Two wires with twoway communication on one vs 3 wires with one way communication on the other.

You have to be very sure what you do if you try to combine these

[Madskp]

It looks like attaching STL files is not working on Beoworld based on some other threads about 3D printed parts

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XavierItzmann wrote:

Is your BC2 a Mk1 or Mk2 version?

I think it’s a MK1 (no DAB and no sound when touching the buttons)

The Head unit is Type 2801 and the socket unit type 2811. SW 1.3 (both on the labels and in the service menu), manufactured 2004, so probably an early one.

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Jackson_db wrote:

Did you find a solution, similar issue with AV5 and Oveture

I guess the described solution can also be apossibility for you with the exception that the Ouverture might not be able to be in option 6 depending on the age of it

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Manbearpig wrote:

I try to link a Beocenter 2 to a Beocenter AV5 via Masterlink. I have additional speakers connected to the Beocenter 2. What is the correct option setting for the Beocenter 2 and the Beocenter AV5? Normally it would be 1 each, but this results in both CD players turning on when pressing CD. Therefore, Beocenter AV5 in option 2 and Beocenter 2 in option 0 or option 5 seems right. However, using the AV button to transfer sound from one source to the other doesn’t work properly then. Any ideas how I can get that configuration to work properly, if any such configuration exists?

I can’t find any manual describing this scenario, neither any description of how option settings works for a Beocenter AV5.

I have a Beocenter 6, 22″ with Built in radio myself and have tried to see how that react to different option settings, so my answer is based on that, and things might work differently  on a Beocenter AV5.

On the Beocenter 6, 22″ the video option settings seems to have effect for both the video sources and the radio source.

If it set it to option 1 (or 5) I can only control the video sources when controlled locally

If I set it to option 2 (or 6) I can control both the video sources and the radio source when controlled locally

If I connect a link speaker I can only control the sources from that if the TV is in option 1 or 2.

Based on that I think that the Beocenter wil work as both and audio and video master at the same time when in option 1 or 2.

 

So to solve your issue I guess that you have to setup either the Beocenter AV5 or the Beocenter 2 as a link room in order to avoid conflict with two audio masters in the same system.

For example you can set the Beocenter AV5 in option 6 and the Beocenter 2 in option 0. That way you can control the sources on the Beocenter AV5 with normal commands, and the sources on the Beocenter 2 with Link + source commands. Downside is yo do not get sound out of the speakers connected to the Beocenter 2, and you can not distribute sources from the AV5 to other link rooms.

An other possibility is to set the Beocenter AV5 in option 2, and the Beocenter 2 in option 4, and no masterlink between them. That way you can control the sources on the Beocenter AV5 with normal commands, and the sources on the Beocenter 2 with Link + source commands. Downside is that one system is not linked to the masterlink network.

Hope this helps figuring out a way to use the system.

 

[Madskp]

I can also confirm after a test that with a combination of BC2 (A.Opt 2)  and Beoport (Opt. 0) I also get the the metadata showing on the BC2 display

[Madskp]

Here is a shot of my BS5 and BC2 combo where the BC2 shoes the metadata of the music played on the BS5. I will asume the data is displayed nearly the same way on the BS4

The BC2 is set as master (A.Opt 2) and the BS5 as no in Audiomaster

[Madskp]

Take a look at this thread

https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/35714.aspx

The problem sounds like the one you have, and at some point the original poster confirms that he used a wrong cable to start with, and the right cable solved the problem

[Madskp]

Sometimes a thread can really work fast when you are busy with other things 😀

Nice to hear that it all seems to work out even with the age of this device 😀

 

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CharlieWednesday wrote:

This is useful, thanks. I bought another MCL2AV from eBay but ‘untested’ as it was just the unit – no cables, power supply or IR eye. I thoight it was worth a shot though as it was only £10 and I already have the cables and IR eye from my old MCL2A. I’d like to test if it is working – I have a bunch of old power adapters, the closest one is 12v 1.25A – would that be risky given the higher amp rating? I’s have to reverse the polarity on it too but that’s simple enough.

I would not worry much about the higher ampere rating. The circiut should not draw more amps than needed unless there is a short circuit.

The polarity however is more crucial as that can kill the unit.

 

I have now tested 3 MCL2AV’s with the 12V supply without any issues, so pretty confident that a 15V supply is not needed.

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