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MadskpGOLD MemberIs it possible to make a setting to get notifications when a post has been edited?
I have seen more than one case where I come back to a thread and see that new information is added in an existing post, but I only see it because a new post was made or because I went back to look for some info.
I know it’s not a thing for all, and could also be irritating if the edit is just spelling mistakes etc. But would be nice to know if it is possible?
Thanks in advance
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberWhen you say that you were not able to control anything how did you activate the Essence in this case, via app?
I don’t remember for certain, but pretty sure I activated it with the app.
I would think that the Penta’s would display something, but i might not be the case with the MCL2AV in stand alone mode, but only work if the MCL2AV is connected to a Beomaster/Beocenter.
I didn’t think the Penta displays would ever work through an MCL2AV. We’re having work done in the house so my Beocenter 8500 is in storage, but when I get it back, I’ll have to test that!
Thanks for the update. I will update the first post accordingly
Location: Denmark5 January 2025 at 08:14 in reply to: Making BS9000 CD source accessible with BeoLink Converter NL/ML (BLC) #62299MadskpGOLD MemberMy best guess from all the information is to link the BV7-55 directly to another BLC. The BV7-55 resources will be visible in NL and vica versa the BS9000 resources are visible for the BV7-55 as if they are NL recources.
This could be a solution, but do you know that the BS9000 might be upgraded to a newer software that supports N.music and N.Radio from another source instead of using it’s own AUX connection?
This thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-9000-type-252x-from-april-1996-software-update/ mention something about which type numbers can have which software version, and there is also a guide on how to perform the upgrade.
I have no experience with this myself, but I think that might make it more simple to make your system work the way you want
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberMy RJ45-to-DIN fully wired powerlink cable arrived today from Sounds Heavenly (thanks Steve!), so I’ve started performing some tests.
Thank you very much 🙂
Test 1 – BS Essence > BL Penta – Pass This passed, with sound and display. The Penta’s came out of standby when I selected a source, and went back into standby when I put the Essence into standby. The displayed first showed LOAD TAPE when I powered it up, and also did that when I switched source between N.Radio and N.Music, but then after a few seconds displayed A.TAPE2, and the volume. It didn’t matter if I was listening to N.Radio or N.Music – both displayed as A.TAPE2 on the Pentas (Of course, I forgot to change the sound level settings in the Essence before I tested this, so now my entire village know the true power of the Penta!).
Interesting result with great information of what to expect from this combination.
Test 2 – BS Essence > BL Passive > BV CX50 – Pass Just a quick test to ensure that the new cable was able to power up the BL Passive, and drive the speakers. I connected a pair of CX50s. When I selected a source on the Essence, the BL Passive powered on and the source was heard.
Great that this works as expected.
Test 3 – BS Essence > BL Passive > MCL2AV > BL Penta – Partial Pass When I selected a source on the Essence, the BL Passive powered on and the source was heard. No display on the Penta’s here, but I wouldn’t have expected that. I was not able to control anything via the IR Receiver (the old rectangular type) with my BEO4, but the Mute button on the IR Receiver did toggle the sound on and off, but you had to press it twice each time to toggle! The LEDs in the IR receiver worked, including the Timer LED, but I didn’t test if the timer was having any effect.
From my other testing I would expect a result like this. Becasuse the MCL2AV can operate stand alone it is able to open up the sound path from the MCL cable, but the data is not going through to the Passive/Essence. Also I belive the thing you experience with the LED’s is normal behaviour for the MCL2AV even in stand alone mode.
When you say that you were not able to control anything how did you activate the Essence in this case, via app?
I would think that the Penta’s would display something, but i might not be the case with the MCL2AV in stand alone mode, but only work if the MCL2AV is connected to a Beomaster/Beocenter.
Test 4 – BS Essence > BL Passive > MLL2A > BV CX50 – Fail In this test I got no response – the LEDs did not light up on the IR receiver and I got no sound. BUT: this is an MCL2A that I have only just got my hands on, and this is the first time I have tested it – it might be faulty, but I used this one as it is already fully wired up. When I have more time I will wire up another working MCL2A that I already had (but it is not currently wired up) and perform the same test again.
Also I would expect this as the MCL2AV can not operate stand alone like the MCL2AV
Test 5 – BL Essence > BL Passive > BL 3500 Mk1 – Unable to test I have a BL 3500 Mk1 which has a DIN input for MCL, but I don’t have the right cable to test this and not enough patience or skill to create one myself, so this one will have to remain untested!
Quite ok. I think test 3 does suffice.
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD Membero my knowledge and experience all Beosounds / Beomasters will switch on the MC2P / Active / ML-MCL converter when connected with fully wired PL (even the BS Moment).
That would also be what I expect, but there could be outliers.
Note: never tested it on a BS5 or BS5e, but presumably it won’t work on a BS5 when “master” is set off.
Actually on my BS5 it had some weird behaviour as described above. It could be something wrong with my unit.
Also all MCL capable Beomasters will support MCL. That said: why use a seperate amp if the Beomaster is MCL ready (f.e. 4500, 6500, ….)?
Yes I know it is a little redundant, but my thought was to not only look at the outliers but get the full picture of Powerlink comptability in different products. Also could be workaround in case of a broken amp in the Beomaster/Beocenter
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberMy BC9500 works the same as BC2300 – turns Passive* on/off but no muting – see here . I haven’t driving MCL, nor have I tried the modified (pin 4 to 1) PL lead but will do so next time my BC9500 is set up.
Great info, thanks 🙂
My Essence Mk2 turns Passive on fine – fully wired RJ45 PL lead used.
It was actually that I had picked up from another thread, but I can see now that I have made the YES for the MK1. That will be corrected in the next version of the list
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberYou could try using an RJ45 to RJ45 cable to connect the Playmaker directly to your router, which should allow you to find it and set up further.
That what also what I had to do when I setup mine last year. As far as I remember you can select the wireless network to connect to from the webinterface when you get acces to it from the cabled network.
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberI’m still waiting for the adapter cable to arrive to connect my BS Essence to my Beolink Passive, then connect an MCL2A and MCL2AV to perform the other suggested tests – I’ll keep you posted.
No hurry. When you have the possibility to try it please post the result in this new tread I just made https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/powerlink-comptability/
Thanks in advance
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberOk, just so you know if you do have network cabling near the Beovision 6’s you might also be able to use that as Masterlink cabeling. Alternativly the NL/ML converter can be placed with the TV’s and the network cabeling can be used as network
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberMulticare er stadigvæk ved at få implementeret alle scannede manualer på siden. Prøv evt. at tage direkte kontakt til dem. De plejer hurtigt at få lagt specifikke manualer ind når man spørger efter dem (forudsat at de har dem)
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberYou may have to change the role of the NL/ML converter. Since you mention that you can acces from the Beolab 2000 by pressing Tape it sounds like you have set it up like a A.master or AV.Master. But your Beosound 3000 is probably also an Audio master (A.master) and there can not be 2 of those on the ML side of the converter.
Therefor I suggest that you setup the NL/ML converter as source center and then assign the Line in to either N.radio (PHONO on older remotes) or N.music (Atape2 on older remotes), and the use these remote commands instead.
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberYou do not mention if you have a Masterlink network where the Beovision 6’s are connected to?
The Beovision 6’s could be connected to the Avant via NL/ML converter and and play sources from the Avant that way. If you do not allready have it you may need some cabeling for this to work.
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberI do not have any 2-way equipment to test it with. I do have an MCL2A and MCL2AV, but the only thing I have to connect those to is a Beocenter 8500.
I might have confused you with the talk about the MCP5500/6500. The MCP 5000 you have will only control the Beomaster 5000
Still, even without compatible equipment, I can be confident the MCP5000 isn’t working, as even without compatible equipment, I’m sure the display should respond in some way when the buttons are pressed. There’s no display response at all.
I would also expect it to show something like no connection on the display or a red dot.
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberI don’t really need it to work with my BS4, I just want it to work, as it seems a shame that such a perfect pierce of design, in such great condition, is not functioning.
I do not have any repair tips for it, but one thing that has been mentioned in threads about these MCP units over time is damage of the PCB due to leaking batteries, so it might be worth to dissassemble it to see if this is the case here.MCP5500 etc will possibly work two-way with the MCL2AV and its sensor. I seem to remember testing this with a ‘stand-alone’ MCL2AV back when I used that for computer audio. I am not sure what the outcome will be if a one-way audiomaster is also connected to the MCL2 system.
Also happe new year to you, and yes thats correct it will work with the 2way MCL2 stuff. I had a MCP6500 briefly that I tested with a MCL2AV connected to my BC9300 https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/mcp-6500-behaviour/ so that is possible.
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberFirst of happy new year to you
Before you use to much time on it you should know that the MCP5000 will only work with a Beomaster 5000 as it use different IR codes than the newer Beolink 1000 compatible products.
If consider getting a MCP5500 or MCP6500 instead be avare that these will only work with some 2 way IR products like BM5500/BM6500/BM7000 (and maybe a few more), but not with 1 way IR products like the BS4.
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD Member1. serve the same purpose: drive my beolab and act as input for the room, even if there is no NL devices in the network?
This should be possible yes. I am a little unsure about the local input if setup as A.SLAVE though
2. Allow me to select which command on the beo4 selects the analog input, not only the PC command
Yes. Although only sources that are not in use for other devices in the ML network can be used. That means if you allready have a Audio and Video master your choises are limited.
3. possibly allow the local source to be available throughout the house, unlike Beolink Active?
I think the NL/ML converter has to be setup as either a Audio or Video master for this to work. This requires that you do not have the one or the other in the system allready.
Please let us know a little more about your current setup, then it is easier to give advice.
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberThere is also this recent thread regarding Beosound Century with some of the same issues https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-century-dead-cd-drive/
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberHello and welcome to Beoworld
This was continued in this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-ouverture-cd-not-working/
Although for my part I still have an issue where I have to press CD twice other members had luck with laser replacement and/or recapping of the servo board.
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberMany things could be wrong.
Maybe try to isolate the issue by disconnecting the NL/ML converter and see if the issue persist with just the BS3000 and the BL2000. Remember to power down the system before disconnection Masterlink cables.
Location: DenmarkMadskpGOLD MemberI think it might have to do with the sequence the plugs are inserted
I might have to ask if you do this with the system powered on? Best practice is to power down both the Main room system and the link rooms that has a local power lead to avoid mal functioning.
The Beolab 3500 upstairs is still being obstinate, though; it answers “Radio”, and reacts to volume change on the screen, but makes no sound.
Sounds like the data connection to the main system is missing. The older MCL compatible BL3500’s will react to source commands and show the source name even though they are not connected at all.
Maybe try to power down the whole system and first turn on the main room system, and then the Beolab 3500
Try to select a source on the main system first and then the Beolab 3500, just to see if at least the sound gets through. If not try the remote sequence Menu + 0 + 4. + GO (on a BEO4 remote). THis will open the sound input. If you have a Beolink 1000 the sequence is Menu + 0 + 4 +Play.
If you have any junction boxes where the cable is spliced check if the cables are firmly connected (do this with the system powered off in both main and link rooms)
Hope this is helpfull
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