[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I’ve tried every other conceivable option setting but none of it works – I either get nothing, or limited functionality.  It seems so strange the B&O would build IR mapping into the Beolink Converter, but not allow for the full setup to work via only that one IR Eye?

I think the reason for that is that the Beolink Coverter (besides being a converter between NL and ML ) works more like a link room with it’s own speakers. So when you activate a source from it it activates that source directly through the link cables (in your case the Aux input on the BS4) and has no need to activate the BS3 for this function to work, and also do not need to activate the BS3 speakers.

Your option settings on the products  mostly has to do with what type of IR commands your product accept (no IR/audio/video/audio and video/link+), and does not define how it reacts to commands from a link room.

 

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I tried having both the BLC and the BS3 in Opt.1, but that way the BS3 only responds to Video sources, not Audio sources.  My speakers need to be connected to the BS3 because I have a full set of surround speakers (front, surround, centre, sub).

What exactly do you mean by ‘Powerlink Switch’?

Both Almando and Onermote has these. They have two powerlink inputs and one output for the speakers. One of the connected inputs is always connected to the speakers, but when the other product is turned on it will switch to that product instead.

In your case it could be inserted between the front speakers and the TV/Music system

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I have however experienced another issue.  Because both my BS3 and the NL/ML Converter have IR eyes connected, both are responding to remote commands, so for example if I hit 1, I get 11.  I tried setting the BS3 to Opt.0, but if it’s in Opt.0, it does not come out of standby at all when I select a source.  If I set it to Opt.1, it only responds to video sources, not audio sources (My Beosound 4 is set to Opt.0, and I’m sure that’s the only right option to use there, as my speakers are connected to the BS3). This feels like something there should be a solution to, but I haven’t found it yet!

One possibility could be to connect the speakers via a Powerlink switch and set both the BLC and the TV to option 1.  This way the speakers can be shared between the TV and the music system and none of them react to commands form the other.

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[Madskp]

Great to hear that you finally got a working solution for this, although a complicated one 🙂

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I also connected a Chromecast Audio to the TV/Aux input of the BM7000, so that if I do select A.Aux by remote, both the BS4 and the BM7000 go to A.Aux as a source and I can cast music from my phone or tablet.  The BM7000 has therefore also allowed me to add an extra source too.

But how are the A.aux command mapped in this situation? Or is that not going through the NL/ML converter?

CharlieWednesday wrote:

My Beomaster 5 remains connected (set as an audio slave) and it does not seem to have been adversely affected – it still responds to the N.Music command from my remotes.

But what about N.radio? Is the BS5 not responding when you use that for the redcord player scenario?

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I’m guessing that means that the N.Radio signal from a Beoremote One is different somehow?

Yes something must be different, although I cannot  say what that could be.

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

Disregard – I solved it, but I don’t know how.  I disconnected everything, reconnected everything, changed a few settings, and I’m pretty sure I ended up with the same as I started with, but now it’s working!  Maybe I just had a loose connection somwhwre.

Then nevermind my comments. But I would be interesting to hear the settings you did to achive this?

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[Madskp]

If I should guess you are trying to get the BS4 Aux input activated with the PHONO/N.RADIO command by trying to change the command in the NL/ML converter?

Good thinking, but I am not sure that it is possible. If I understand the manual for the NL/ML converter correctly the IR mapping features is for choosing which source name a ML source should have on the NL network:

Not sure if that also applies for the Converter IR eye too. Others might know better. I can also try to test it at one point, but it might take some days before I have the possibility to do so.

Just to be sure what you are doing:

– What role have you setup the NL/ML converter to have?

– Is the IR mapping setting you are mentioning like this:

?

 

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[Madskp]

You are welcome, and great that it worked.

Btw. you mentioned in your first post that you had to press link CD on the remote to get the CD playing.  Can you do that by pressing just CD now?

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[Madskp]

I have now tried to test with the Beoplay M3 instead of the Beoplay V1, and with Both the BC2 and BS Ouverture I can get the Beoplay M3 to start playing. The sound is for some reason very bad (it works great when I do  airplay), but the functionality is there.

Only thing I changes was to make the Beoplay M3 the primary and secondary product to connect to in the NL/ML converter setup.

Please let me know if this calls for any other testing scenarios

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[Madskp]

I have now tried the same test with my Beocenter 2. At first it did not work. I could start it from the Beoplay V1 and control it, but if I used the buttons on the BC2 it could not start the TV. Later I found out that was because I had speakers connected to the BC2. When I disconnected them I could start the Beoplay V1 TV by pressing the DISC button on the BC2.

In my previously testing with the BS Ouverture there was speakers connected to that, but that did not seem to matter for this functionality, so there might be some differences in how different systems do this feature.

I also checked settings on the TV again, and I am not sure if this is something I have set manually, or if it wast automatically set based on the settings in the NL/ML converter, so here goes (disclamer my menu language is Danish, so translation might be different with english menus):

In the menu Product integration ->Connect to other products

Product 1: Beolink Converter NL/ML

Speakers to: Beolink Converter NL/ML

If this has to be set manually it might make a difference in behaviour

 

carolpa wrote:

BS7000 – BLC –  NL : start cd with button on BG CD7000 – NL source doesn’t start this evening (but I’m not sure this was the same before I powered everything down this afternoon, but forgot the Beosystem 7000 and the T1611

Do you have a Powerlink cable between the Beomaster 7000 and the T1611 along with the 7 pin DIN cable? That is required for buttons on the music system to control connected Video Master in ML systems.

And for your setup that might be the problem since this feature is from the ML world where it would activate the TV in the setup. But you connect to a music systems (the Core) in the NL world. Not sure if this has impact when the NL/ML converter is translating. I will try later to see if I can do the same with my Beoplay M3.

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[Madskp]

Yes it is. You will have to use the connectors marked Powerlink and connect to the speakers with Powerlink cables

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[Madskp]

I have just tried now with Besound Ouverture (A.opt. 0) – NL/ML converter – Beoplay V1 (V.opt. 2)

The setup of the NL/ML converter is as follows:

Pressing CD on the BS Ouverture starts the Beoplay V1 and the music is playing through it’s speakers. So it works, at least with the Ouverture.

I have quick start timers activated on the Beoplay V1, not sure if that makes any difference, but just for the full picture.

I might be able to do some more testing later in the week with other music system, and also with a Beoplay M3 as the NL source to see if that works just as well.

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[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

When using just an ML connection there is no ‘speaker on’ signal that I am aware of, but you would think that the ‘data’ connection would cover this requirement.

I have not tried this with a Masterlink music system, so agree that it could function in another way. I can try to do a test later thisweek with my BS Ouverture and/or my Beocenter 2 to see if they can activate the Beoplay V1 via the NL/ML converter

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[Madskp]

Yes very good to know what the issue was. Thanks for getting back as that can be usefull for the next person having this issue 🙂

One more of these detoriation of materials issues to the list of rubber belts, speaker foam and what have you.

This kind of issue can not be predicted by anyone even if they had both the servicemanual and the schematics of the TV set.

 

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[Madskp]

I got this functionality working with a Beocenter 9300 – 1611 converter – NL/ML converter -Beoplay V1 where I could activate the Beoplay V1 with a press on one of the buttons on the BC9300. It was discussed in this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beolab-3500-and-1611-converter-settings/page/24/ where the goal was to find out if the same functionality could be had with a MCL2AV with a connected Beogram. The thread might be a littl messy, but I know I had it working.

I don’t know if the Beosound 9000 does have any limitations in this regard, but in theory it should work.

My NL/ML converter is the latest software version.

Djmp wrote:

I can select link->CD on the TV and play CDs and use the Beoremote remote to control the 9000.

I am wondering why you would have to press link – CD. It should be possible to assign the CD source on the BV11 to the CD player on the Beosound 9000 if they are setup as linked products

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[Madskp]

Hello again. Your pin numbering on the 7 Pin DIN is not correct. The numbering shouldbe like the 8 Pin, but without pin 8.

hope this helps

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[Madskp]

sandor szucs wrote:

I have drawn up (what I understand) is the correct configuration for a cable from Power Link to AV and a cable from BS 3000 AUX to AV. Please check for me if they are correct (see files attached).

I do not see the attached file. Could you try to attach it again?

sandor szucs wrote:

One question remains: Which pin should I solder the breaded wire to at the AUX end? Or should I not need to bother with that?

Pin 2 i also ground in the AUX connector like in the Powerlink connector

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[Madskp]

sandor szucs wrote:

Is the above the correct thing to do?

Or should I solder the light grey shield wire from position 8 of the 8 pin mini din to position 8 of the 9 pin mini din.? Or have both those shield wires soldered to position 8 of the 9 pin mini din?

That sounds right. The grey wire in a fully wired Powerlink cable is not ground, so that should be unused.

sandor szucs wrote:

By the way, I like the idea of going from the AUX of the BeoSound 3000 to the AV of the BeoVision 11 however, the AUX socket is a 7 pin. Can I just cut off the centre pin of the power link connector?

No, You will  also need to use another wire pair for the left and right channel since they are connected to pin 1 and 4 of the 7 Pin DIN connector in that use case

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[Madskp]

My best bet would be that another device is also connected to the Beolit 20 and has first priority to it.

This is based on my experience with my Beoplay Earset that is normally connected to my iPhone, but once in a while used with my Macbook. The stability of the connection to the Macbook is very random, whereas the connection to the phone is allways working.

Don’t know if it helps, but just my 2 cents

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[Madskp]

– Disclamer start: I do not have much faith in auto generated answers from chatbots – disclamer end –

Very hard to decipher the Chat GTP conversation, but before you start paying money to repair your Beomaster 7000 you should consider a few things.

If your setup is actually connected like the sketch in this posthttps://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/access-options-on-beomaster-7000/#post-68804 and the Pentas are connected to the TV and only the TV the the Beomaster 7000 has nothing to do with volume control in your main room. The volume for the Pentas are regulated by the device they are connected to, hopefully the TV as advised bye me and other members earlier.

DO NOT CONNECT THE PENTA SPEAKERS TO THE BEOMASTER 7000 IF YOU WANT THIS SETUP TO WORK

Also as far as I iunderstood the devices you had volume troubles with and Apple TV and the PC source, both something connected to the TV. As advised before I would look into the speaker group setup for these connections. Based on what you are telling it sounds like the center speaker on the BV7 might not be in play for dialogue.

 

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[Madskp]

You are very welcome.

Unfortunately B&O at one point stopped showing schematics in the servicemanuals because the began replacing boards instead of repairing them.  Therefor it can be hard to figure out which components are in the products without disassembly and measuring.

Narles wrote:

If it is the capacitors under the shield, I am guessing those would be surface mounted components since the back of the PCB has no through-holes in that section?

That is very likely.

Narles wrote:

Thanks again. This is my only B&O product so it really helps to hear from someone with more experience. I tried getting help from the CRT TV enthusiast community but it seems that B&O TVs are such a different kind of product that the regular CRT TV enthusiast community can’t really offer much help for issues like this. Thanks again!

Not much experience with repairs on them. I have had B&O CRT’s some 15-20 years ago, but never had to repair them when I had them.

Not much activity about CRT’s here on Beoworld either. Only once in a while. I guess most people that use CRT TV’s today are retro gaming entusiasts. You might be lucky to find something on the archived forums thought.

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