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Thank you so much shg79 for sending me the Beotalk 1200. The village I live in is not going to have it’s phone lines updated any time soon so I expect I’ll get some use out of it for a good while yet! Most of all though, it looks cool next to my Beocom 6000.
I wonder though, do they work together an any way? I have checked the manual for both and there is no mention of it, but B&O do often like to make their stuff work together, usually.
Even one simple thing – if I were to get an RJ11 splitter, do you think the same power adapter would be able to power both? Has anyone tried that?
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberWow, a lot of options! If I do win that MCL2A on eBay (I’ve already bid for it) I think I’ll just go with that option first, especially since I’ve already got some Beovox RL45.2, RL1000, C40, CX50 and MCX35 all in full working order but currently unused.
Good to know too that a Mk1 BL3500 would also work with the MCL2A, but also with the MCL2AV if I decide to get one later. You can get BL3500s really cheap on eBay and it would look really good on that wall….
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberThat’s all extremely useful, thank you. I did not know that the MCL2AV was also an option, and was much more flexible. They are more expensive on eBay but certainly worth considering. If I understand it correctly however the MCL2AV has no passive speaker outputs, so if I wanted to use the passive Beovox speakers I already have, I would also need a Beolink passive amp – am I right?
I have found the MCL handbook, and hopefully the useful technical info on this Beoworld site will return soon too – I did see it before the site redesign caused it to disappear, hopefully temporarily!
I’m actually looking for a solution for a large, odd shaped room rather than multiroom. I had considered getting a Beolab 3500 but that would require a 1611 converter and they appear to be difficult to get hold of (you helped me with that advice too, in fact!), so this is me looking for another solution.
I have in fact bid for an MCL2A on eBay as it was going very cheap and included the transceiver and cables. It’s so cheap anyway it’s worth a try, and if I decide to go down the MCL2A route eventually, at least I’ll have the transceiver already.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberI’ve just spotted this, and if it’s still on offer, I’d like it very much! I have recently bought a couple of Beocom 6000’s on eBay, and the village I live in is not due to go digital any time soon.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberThanks for the help. I had read about the capacitor issue elsewhere and I had already seen the capacitor kit available from Beoparts; I guess I was just hoping to fix it without a soldering iron!
I read the service manual and it seemed to indicate that you could remove the CD transport by removing a couple of screws and it just flips up, but I could not get mine to move much when I tried that, and I was afraid of damaging it.
I’ll have another go at getting the CD transport out so I can assess the work required. I do like fixing these things myself, but I may decide that a professional is needed in this case.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberHate to bump a post but I’d really love to get my CD player fixed – any ideas?
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberAll vert useful, thanks. I will test an area on the back, then if I’m happy with the finish, set to work on the whole thing. Don’t think I’ll be painting it purple though!
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberI can’t help my curiosity here then – what is the Line In/Out port for? My BC8500 has the same and I have wondered. The user manual says nothing about it.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberThanks so much for your help on this – having thought about it overnight I think I’ll wait until I see a Beolink Converter 1611 come up for sale – as you say that is the more modern (and more flexible) way of achieving things, and also ensures I can use a BL3500 Mark II rather than needing a Mark I.
I don’t actually want to put the 3500 in another room, I just want to put it on the other side of quite a large room, and if I can get a BL3500 in decent condition it would look pretty cool mounted on the wall.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberVery helpful, thank you. As it happens I think I do already have the cable needed for option 2 – I used to have a Beomaster 3000 with the MCL30 multiroom box/transceiver, and that cable has 3 pin speaker cables on one end, bare cables on the other end but I could easily connect an 8 pin DIN. I have sold the Beomaster 3000 now, but I still have the MCL30 – I was selling it on eBay.
When I got the Beocenter 8500 (recently, as an upgrade from my Beocenter 8000) I did plug the MCL30 into it in case it worked, but it didn’t. The speakers work through it, and the physical mute button on the transceiver works, but the IR transceiver won’t recognise commands from my Beolink 1000 or Beo4 remotes – it was built for the much earlier Terminal 3000 remote, so this isn’t surprising I suppose.
But you’ve got me thinking – I’ve took the MCL30 off sale on eBay (no bids anyway!) in case I decide to repurpose that cable by adding an 8 pin DIN to the other end, and go with your option 2.
I’d prefer your option 1 but I cannot find a Beolink converter type 1611 on sale, but at least I’ve got options now, thanks.
PS will anything other than a 1611 converter work, such as the BeoLink Converter NL/ML? Thwre are so many of these converters available from B&O over the years, it can be a bit confusing to know which does what.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberThat’s a useful thread from the old forum (wish I had seen it before I replaced the belts on mine). From what I can see though, in the first picture given under Step 8, the belt is in fact going where I had also indicated in my drawing? I’m sure (from memory) that this was how I fitted mine anyway.
Either way, looks like you have the info you need now – good luck when the belts turn up. I ordered the same belt kit form Beoparts for mine (and I have just ordered another belt kit for a Beocenter 8500 I have just bought on eBay), and they worked well.
I think I’ll go on the old forum myself now, see if I can find the answer to my BC8500 CD player issue…
PS: Yes, I used to go out with Ruby Tuesday but it ended when she caught me in bed with Man Friday. Awkward.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberSorry, didn’t see your next post worth the additional photo until I have typed the above, I see you have already got the back off (I managed without removing that, somehow!), but I have attached a picture, I am pretty sure this is how the large belt fitted in:
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberThe tape unit from your 7000 actually looks very similar to the one in by Beocenter 8000 so it might be the same? It looks like the V2 to me, so hopefully they are the belts you ordered!
Fitting the two small belts was easy for me, the large belt was difficult but not impossible – there was a bit of careful negotiation to get it into place, as I remember.
If your tape deck is the version 2 (which it looks like from your photos) it may also have the same problem mine had (other than needing new belts), and I used Dillen’s fix (and very useful photo earlier in this thread) to fix mine. It now works perfectly.
Remember mine was not a Beocord 7000 so might not be the same, but this is what I remember:
- Medium sized belt on the back, nice and obvious placement between motor and wheel (shown on your second photo)
- 4 screws to remove the plastic panel that sits beneath the cassette
- Smallest belt fits under there, between tape spindle and wheel
- Under here is where you may also need Dillen’s fix – push the heads up into the play position with your thumb, then turn the spindles. If they turn freely you’re probably okay, but if there is resistance or clicking, see Dillen’s fix
- Turn it over and there is one screw which holds a small circuit board in place, and also allows some movement in the housing when removed (I am saying this from memory sorry). Guiding the big belt into place was difficult but possible without having to take the whole thing apart – I had to guide it around the wheels with a small screwdriver
Good luck with it.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberJust an update on this – the BV8500 does in fact have a phono stage – I have bought once since leaving this message and am now using it! Of the Beocenter 8000/8500/9000/9500/9300 range, I believe it was only the 9300 (the latest version of this BC unit) that does not have a built in phono stage.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberThank you – I have the same configuration tool version downloaded already, and I have juts found the guide by hfat that you mention, that will be really helpful.
I’m hoping that since I intend to use it for quite basic operations of my older Beocenter and TV, I might be okay as long as I have help setting it up, which I now have.
I’ve seen them go on eBay for less that £100 in good condition, so I think I’ll get one now – thanks.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberUpdate – I made an offer to the £400 eBay seller for £325 and they accepted. BOOM!
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberI do think those who are trying to sell Beogram 8500s for neat £2k are being a little optimistic – they have been up for sale for a while, certainly!
Maybe £400 is reasonable. It’s only that I paid much less for my Beogram 3000 only last year, and you see 3300s and 3500s come up for less than £400 with a cartridge quite often, but I don’t want either of those because they have the built in preamp.
The advantage of the one I saw for £400 is that’s it’s quite local, so I could collect it.
I’ll think about it, thanks. If anyone happens to have one for sale though, with or without cartridge, let me know.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberWell thank you again Dillen, I’m happy to say it worked. First I tried a piece of old credit card but that was too thick for me – it prevented the spindles from moving at all when playing a tape, so I shaved it down with a craft knife. I’m sure it will be different for each cassette deck with this issue, but on mine, the plastic needed was practically paper thin. I glued it on in the exact plac in your photo, and it worked a treat.
The clicking has gone, and the tapes play at the right constant speed on both sides.
Recording seems to be good too (which I hadn’t tested before the fix), and the sound quality is surprisingly good – I haven’t played tapes for a long time until recently and I seem to remember they sounded terrible in the 90s, but of course, I wasn’t playing tapes on a B&O back then.
Thanks again for your help. My Beocenter is now in like-new condition (glass panels also needed re-taping, and a little crack in the flap that covers the inputs needed gluing), so I’m really pleased with myself.
Now, I just need to try and find the matching Beogram 8500 for sale somewhere…
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberYes I had noticed that and wondered if gluing something on there might help – it’ll be delicate as it’s so tiny, but I might give that a try, thanks.
So the belt for the motor should not be tight? Perhaps the one I got from Beoparts is right then – I’ll put it back on.
Oh, and I should add – thank you for the very helpful photo, which shows me exactly what I need to do.
Location: LiverpoolMy B&O Icons:GOLD MemberBrilliant thank you – both of those checked, the rivets look okay but you were right about those rubber feet Dillen – I managed to pry the bits out and it’s now opening and closing fully, even with the Beogram on top of it.
It’s still a bit noisy so I think I’ll open it up and see if there are any other bits of hardened rubber still lingering.
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