Beolink Converter NL/ML and would like to connect my Beolab 8000 Speakers to it. I’ve read in your comment that you connected them to test your setup. Could you please advice how to connect them to the

[Carolpa]

DT79 wrote:

I’m pretty sure it’s only the TVs that have ever been able to connect to other speakers wirelessly – no Beosound ‘system’ ever has. The Transmitter 1 is a standalone Wisa transmitter box that you can connect a stereo or 5.1 audio system (B&O or otherwise) to and then connect to 2/2.1/5.1 WISA speakers wirelessly. Most recently the Beosound Theater can connect to other WISA speakers wirelessly. I think those are the only B&O optiobs

Beosound Moment can!

[Carolpa]

This means, that you can no longer have this rather quick access to turn off the screen (as described above in my original post)….which is a pity.

Am I really the only one, who wants to turn off the LG screen, when I listen to a music album (mostly in Atmos) from the Apple Music app on my AppleTV – or when I use my Blu Ray player as a CD player???

How can removing features be progress 😡

MM

No, you’re not the only one
But I find it even after the update simple.

On the BR1 I have to choose  “list” and then “option”. The LG screen displays the LG setting. The “default” (=last used) then is “Screen Off”.

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[Carolpa]

syrianos82 wrote:

Not completely related ro no screen from an HDMI source but I’m wondering if apple music would be better quality if not streamed through airplay but directly from a Mac mini to the BS Theatre. My intention is as follows: Mac Mini M4 Pro (with HDMI 2.1) and link the HDMI into one of the Theatre ports. The playback would be then sent digitally to the Theatre I assume? The Question is, weather this signal is better quality when the Theatre streams to BL28 and BL8 without the Airplay conversion to AAC 256kbps before sending it to the receiving speakers. So in the end I hope the Mac mini can output a signal that is one on one received by the BS Theatre over HDMI and sent ‘clean’ in 24/48 or 24/96 (B&O removed the bitrate fro the website specs) Thanks for any advice or sharing your own experiences

Why not install the Apple Music app directly on your TV ?

[Carolpa]

Guy wrote:

Guy wrote:

XavierItzmann wrote: This, plus the concern raised months ago that the C’s poor old memory is constantly being rewritten to with useless failure log messages —thus condemning the device to an early, unnecessary death— tells us that the C is probably not long for this world.

I must have missed this concern because I didn’t have a BLC when it was raised. It’s not ideal but can’t you just go into the BLC’s ‘Tools’ menu occasionally and clear the system log? (Having said that, the only entries in my BLC system log are from today and I don’t remember clearing it after my experiments last week)

I just checked the NL/ML Converter’s ‘System Log’ today and all the 9 Oct messages have disappeared. Perhaps one of the recent SW updates* makes the Converter clear the log data daily to avoid filling the memory? * EDIT: Actually I don’t think there have been any SW updates since 2015, so now not so sure about this!

I checked my 5 BLC: all show todays logs only.
Actually I do think they have pushed (minor) changes/update(s) to BLC’s before (without notice, without date change of latest update).

 

The changes to the B&o app seams to me a (possible) logic vision:

• the BLC becomes/is the ML connector and should be used with the previous types of products (Essense mkII, Beoplay 6, BS35, M3, etc…) and should be setup as the described way around.
• the BeoConnect Encore becomes the USB intermediate to connect older products/sources the the Mozart platform where these sources are an integral source of that Mozart product.

I use BLC’s a lot and the best and easiest way to controll and use is, to have only one ML product connected to a BLC which is integrated as Primary Beolink product to a NL device.

 

[Carolpa]

Nils-Henning Reinstorf wrote:

Hi, thank you for your suggestion but i like to use the remote control of the system as well. I think for that there is no other way then bypassing the RIAA?

but giving the ATape2 command to the BC9500 should start the BG4500. The only “odd” thing you experience is the use of ATape2.

[Carolpa]

Guy wrote:

So today I am trying the NL/ML converter connected just to my BC2300 via a BL1611. I have removed my Essence Mk2 from the setup (and B&O app) to avoid conflicts.

You can integrate the BC2300-T1611-BLC and Essence mkII without any conficts.

 Anyone know if I can change settings to access the BC2300’s FM RADIO via the B&O app? EDIT: I have tried putting the BC2300 in A.OPT 0, and then adding an IR sensor to the NL/ML Converter – I have IR mapped the ML sources. I can select all mapped BC2300 sources (including RADIO) using the Beo4, but the RADIO source still does not appear in the app.

Somewhere down the line, they skipped the Radio sources from ML.
Presumably to have the BLC setup in line with the Beoconnect Encore settings. The BeoSystem 9000c is using the B&o Radio source of the BL28’s and not the original BS9000 Radio source.

Note: in the Beoliving app the original Radio sources are still available.

workaround: if you add the Essence mkII to the setup, you could add the ML sources of the BC2300 as Essence mkII sources (In the Essence configuration: Link to other products; Connect to primary Beolink product; check the boxes for the available sources in Content-Sources-Local)
Then it is possible to start the BC2300 Radio on the Essence mkII

[Carolpa]

why not connect the BG4500 to ATape2 of the BC9500? Then you do not need to bypass the RIAA…

and you could leave both recordplayers connected

[Carolpa]

[Carolpa]

BeoMatthew wrote:

Thank you! That being said, it does suck that there’s basically no way to actually play music at the bit depth & sample rate that the Core is capable of.

the easiest way is to add your Tidal subscription to the B&o app.

alternative:  add your Tidal supscrition to Audirvana Studio and upnp stream directly to the Core.

[Carolpa]

gizze wrote:

If the stage is disconnected, either hdmi or mains, it doesn’t happen. 2.30am and again at 3.30am. It has to be a timer. I have just checked the log to my Fritz! router to see if that is doing anything, but doesn’t seem to be. I also have BT homehub discs only. Fibre provider is zen. Just mentioning in case network is waking it and someone has the same hardware.

Is a device Bluetooth connected to the stage?

Is the Stage set to automatically receive update?

 

[Carolpa]

what happens does it happen, if you unplug (only) the Stage from the mains?

[Carolpa]

last night BS Core, BS35, Essense mkII, Beoplay A6, M3 all updated to 2.6.560xx.

the xx depending on the Beosound

[Carolpa]

Stefan Leuenberger wrote:

Hello Carolpa, sorry for jumping in, but I have just bought a Beolink Converter NL/ML and would like to connect my Beolab 8000 Speakers to it. I’ve read in your comment that you connected them to test your setup. Could you please advice how to connect them to the Beolink Converter NL/ML? Thank you very much, Stefan

Hi Stefan,

You need a RJ45 to Powerlink compatible clip-on adapter to connect your BL8000 to the BLC..

Note: the first BLC’s didn’t show some connectors; f.e. the PL and AUX connections. But they were available behind some removable plactics.

see: https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/27-313-rj45-powerlink-compatible-splitter-new-powerlink-to-two-8-pin-din-powerlink-compatible-sockets.html#/20-length-02m

 

 

[Carolpa]

what if? you set the Halo to a fixed IP address and set the Halo connection to 2.4GHz, preferable to one channel (f.e. channel 11).

note: I have no idea if your network settings make all these options available.

[Carolpa]

Stan wrote:

I have my BeoMaster5 set to a fixed IP address, but I don’t remember how I did it. I’d like to change it. Does this require going into the service menu? Thanks

you should set this in your router.

if it is set in the BM5 you could end up with a temporary disconnection of the BM5 with your network.

type the IP address of your router in as url in a browser, login and search for the fixed IP settings.

[Carolpa]

Pleuris wrote:

Hallo, mijn ouders zijn een paar maand geleden verhuisd en hebben hun B&O installatie mee laten verhuizen. Die bestaat uit een Avant 55 (eerste editie), een ouverture met CD speler en 2 beosound 2000. Na de verhuis werkte alles goed. Maar ineens op een avond geen TV beeld meer op de TV, enkel een zwaar verstoord beeld. Moederbord kapot en dat is vrij snel vervangen geweest. Dus alles weer in orde. Omdat ze graag naar de radio luisteren gebruiken ze vaak de netradio. In het appartement is de FM ontvangst weg. Hiervoor moest eerst op de afstandsbediening van de TV op de knop music geduwd worden, dan netradio en wachten tot die opgestart was. Daarna op een beosound 2000 op de knop TV duwen en het werkte. Dat is toch nogal onhandig. Dus vroegen we nadat het moederbord vervangen was of dat niet makkelijker kon. We hadden de oude afstandsbediening van een vorige B&O TV mee en daarop staat een knopje V-mem. Nu enkel daarop drukken en een tijdje wachten er er speelt radio in de keuken. Dus we waren blij. Diezelfde avond zit mijn vader naar TV te kijken en mijn moeder wil zoals steeds meeluisteren in de keuken. Dus ze duwt op de beosound op de knop TV zoals altijd. TV beeld valt weg en netradio start. Dus niet zoals voorheen. Toen speelde nadat die knop was ingeduwd exact hetzelfde geluid dat de TV afspeelde. De techniekers gecontacteerd, maar die geloven niet dat het door hun intereventie komt. Omdat het de afgelopen maanden al duur genoeg was om de verhuis te betalen en nu het moederbord hoop ik dat ik hier een oplossing kan krijgen voor dit klein maar stom probleempje. Nu heb ik deze zaken getest: – Als we nu op de besound 2000 op de knop TV duwen en de avant staat UIT, dan gaat die aan en na een tijd start Netradio. – Staat de avant AAN en we duwen op het knopje TV op de besound 2000 stopt de avant met het weergeven van wat de digibox of apple TV weergaf en start die de Netradio met geluid op beide toestellen. – Als de besound 2000 via netradio muziek staat af te spelen en zetten we de avant op om via de digicorder of apple TV naar iets te kijken, dan valt de besound 2000 uit. Dus geen geluid, het geeft een klik zoals bij het uitschakelen van dat toestel en de powerled gaat van groen naar rood. – Drukken we op de besound 2000 op de rode knop op het buisje (de play knop) dan start de ouverture op en start die de FM radio. Wat dus enkel wat geruis geeft. Dat heb ik getest met de avant die aan stond en uit. Ik heb ook via de oude afstandsbediening de beosound 2000 laten opstarten door op de knop TV de duwen, die doet dan exact hetzelfde als de fysieke knop in te duwen. Geen idee wat we nog meer kunnen doen. Ik vermoed dat door is op de knop V-mem te duwen de functie van de knop TV is gewijzigd naar het opstarten van de netradio. Maar hoe kan dat terug worden gezet zoals voorheen? Gewoon eender welk geluid de TV weergeeft doorsturen….

U schrijft Beosound 2000, bedoelt u echter niet Beolab 2000? Dit zou uw setup “veel logischer” maken.

Wat u beschrijft lijkt mij conform een logische setup indien uw systeem uit Avant/Ouverture/BL2000 bestaat. Alleen schijnt de TV commando toegekend te zijn aan de Net Radio bron van de Avant. Dit is relatief makkelijk te verhelpen, lastiger om hier uit te leggen.

Kunt u aangeven hoe u “tv kijken” start? Welk commando met de Beo4/BR1 geeft u dan?

[Carolpa]

kronzilla wrote:

1. Ja, je hebt een powerlink splitter nodig, dus 1x pl in naar 2x pl out. Cavus heeft dat ( en hun PL kabels zijn beter dan van B&O ( stekkers verguld en de mk2 is nog beter afgeschermd ( voor speakers met icepower zoals bl7.1,bl5 etc) en de kabel is iets dikker.

Of je “daisy chain” de BL6000 (één BL6000 PL verbinden aan de BM3500, de andere BL6000 doorverbinden met de BM3500 verbonden BL6000).
Dan heb je één PL aansluiting vrij op de BM3500.

[Carolpa]

Stan wrote:

Thanks MM and Carolpa. In the past, I was able to start the ML source on another device and join the Balance via the app. Yesterday, this wasn’t working. It would only boop or double boop. If my memory is not too faulty, the app has changed so that instead of it showing the converter linked to the BS1 (for example), it now shows the converter as the “master” link source no matter how the source is started, and all the other devices are linked to it. Subtle difference and probably makes more sense, but I was afraid they messed up Mozart with this enhancement. Today, it is working again. Go figure. This is also how I listen to lossless WMA files from my BeoMaster 5 disk. With the Balance, I can select a song and it plays the song and stops. With the BS1, it plays the song and the next and the next, etc. So I start the music on the BS1, mute the volume, join the Balance. Although to be honest, I generally just stream unless I’m feeling “old school”. I would guess they dropped ML support in Mozart because, in my experience, every manager and software developer hates backward compatibility so they saw their chance with a “next generation” product to drop it, and they did. I mean how far back does backward compatibility need to go? Customer says “forever”. Manager says “never”. They fight it out, and we get what we get.

“Today, it is working again”: see my previous post. It is a software glitch to not recognize the JOIN function straight away, which I found an issue to be overcome. But still, it is not an new issue. It should have been solved long ago.

The issue with selecting an Album on DLNA music server and only one track is played is solved on my BL8 and BL28. If an album is selected the complete album is played. Before it was quite annoying though.

I have the impression that ML devices will be supported on Mozart devices soon (Beoconnect Encore). The same way B&o has recently integrated the BS9000 with the BL28.

[Carolpa]

I did have my share of problem too. But everything is working fine again.

I never managed to get ML sources visible on a Mozart device directly (BL8/BL28) though, I was surprised to read that you hade it available on your Balance. But that was no issue for me, because I could access them though other devices.
What changed is the BLC sources can directly be started on the BLC in the app and then the BLC can be joined by other devices (Mozart also).
And yes, sometime the Mozart device doesn’t seem to follow the JOIN command. But what does help is to join manually. Mostly thereafter it works fine again (or first start a source on the Mozart device and then join, thereafter it should work again as normal).

note: I have an escape route – I programmed my Halo/BLI to directly start any ML source on any device (also Mozart).

I did have lengthily discussions with B&o about it.

[Carolpa]

Just some questions:

1. is the NAS only LAN connected to the same network, correct?
2. I presume a album cover is embedded in all music files, correct? Or just in the first?
3. do the pictures exceed 1000×1000 pixels?
4. do you use a DLNA server? Which one?
5. did you add the folders with the “analogue music” to the DLNA server?
6. how do you select a folder on the BS5e?
7. NL mag ook 🙂 ?

and yes, I think it should be possible!

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