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Interesting; to extrapolate, why buy a Rolex when something 1/8 price does the same job and is as stylish.

In fact using this thought process, there would be no premium brands in any product

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@Critique: I would be happy if the BeoLab28s were the last products made with these superfluous mechanical mechanisms. I know most people in here love this stuff but when you take the cost of that mech out, (and the side drivers continue to do what probably 99% of the work is), you will reduce manufacturing cost significantly. You reduce R&D cost and prototyping costs. It will go a long way. Look at the BS Balance and BL8.’

Once one takes away any visual excitement , surely one competes with the other higher end audio brands? why would one buy B&O if that visual aspect has gone?

I am sure theb BL8 is a good speaker but I would buy the BL28 purely for the fact its so different to anything else.

 

 

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People are buying B&O presently, reference is made to BL9/20 , however , they are very old products; What about the 28s, Stylish, good performers, not lacking in tech, a bit of visual drama; does one not think that product represents B&O?

The stage was never ‘crippled’ clearly, market segmentation determined it would not be wise to offer wider connectivity; it was offered as a very good, classy looking stand alone soundbar, and it sold well.

B&O have responded with the premier that offers what one feesl the stage lacked; the same people that complain about stage connectivity will not be buying that either! because…… they want it at the stage price.

With the PRESENT product offering, I dont think one can say its a lightweight ‘designer brand’

I have had almost all B&O products from the past 25 years and the range now ( with a few exceptions) performs extremely well.

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Interesting that so many advocate a ‘return to the design dynamics of the 80/90s Era. These are just the people who wont buy it in todays world.

The business has changed; how can the uniqueness that once made B&O design famous be incorporated into streaming devices  and soundbars( which is where the market sits)

Indeed the 8000 were iconic and a good design; but were they that good a performer ( not in my experience)  the 28/50/90 are a good expression of todays requirements; albeit at the wrong price points.

I recall my dissapointment when reading that the previous CEO had engaged with LG in order to exit the video business; it turned out to be the correct thing to do; if not with LG, another brand. What a pity that the Avant style could not have been OLED; that TV was so classy although very unreliable ( in my experience)  hance I got so fed up with waiting weeks for Video boards I gave up and bought the theatre; I can almost buy a complete replacement LG tv for what B&O wanted for a Video Driver panel, in the early years of failure

My feeling is that most of the current range offers higher quality audio than it ever did.

Lots of manufacturing in Asia now.

If one wants to be successful as a CEO in this area, one needs a larger company and then make it smaller! thats what Mantoni did.  The next one inflated the prices; Im not sure whats left to pull out of the bag

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I have the same problem with BR1 and Theatre.

It reboots for no reason, even while using the remote; at which point it wont work for about 3 minites.

ith new sets of batteries im down to 40% in 2 weeks

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I had these combinations, I dot like beolab 2 at all for music, too boomy and out fo control bass, Good for movies not music.

I also had beloab 9 which i liked, and swopped them for the 20s which was a huge mistake.

I think I would choose the 9s

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Strangely enough the lab 28 updated last night to 4.1.1

So now theatre and lab 28 are all on the same software.

 

Given my system is wired do i need to do anything; I cant seem to tell the difference!

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I have the theatre and 28s but also a BS2 and subscribe to deezer for voice integartion.

 

If I move to tidal will it work with beowound 2 GVA version?

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in the latest update 3.4.1 i notice that the remote now responds immediately to the remote when watching normal TV it used to take about 40 secoinds before its sychronised correctly enabling chanell changes.

Bass on PCM 2 is improved, so for me im happy with the result.

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B&O had many troubles with the video engine, originally the price was £1200 fitted, then the price of the exchange board dropped to £750 plus fitting , as so many were going faulty, they seem to last for about 4 years, although my replacement lasted 14 months.

Maybe its more of a problem with the 55 as the chassis is more compact and greater heat issues, which seem to cause the problem.

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Seeems like the video engine problem to me, had it several time when i had the avant.

1200 fix

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Not sure if others have experienced but im finding the Theatre randomly flashes orange when watching TV then the product appears ‘offline’ whenn checking in the App?

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A few years ago, I to was sad to see the  ‘demise’ of B&O, saddened by the lovely Avant being superceded by an alliance with LG.

Alas with the Avant, having spent £6K and with the unreliability that went with it ( 3 video boards just out of warranty)  it all became an impossibly expensive proposition.

Now I have the Theatre, its a great product ( a few software bugs excluded) and I can change the screen for £1500 should it fail. The picture quality is way above what B&O could achieve in a superfast changing market.

Likewise, beolab 28, what a great speaker, sound clarity compared to the speakers of the age that some yearn for is leagues above what was previously possible.

Yes the preowned market has tanked , but thats due to rapid technology change not B&O, lets face it who wants to buy an Avant now? or beolab 8000 or lab9/20 unless its super cheap.

Times have moved on, im not sure what individuals expected B&O to do, but i think their product range is actually very good presently; sure the price has moved to extreme levels but so have motor cars ect.

 

Just a few thoughts

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Thank you that is useful to know  are you able to tell me the steps i need to go through to do that,  its just this set up has been a little temerpmental and i dont want any more problems!

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For what its worth i went through the same situation last year.

 

I think the Avant is the most wonderful looking TV but I had the Video board go o n three occasions, I am convinced the repaired boards dont last as long and each time its a £1K fix and weeksor months of waiting.

 

I had enough and got the theatre, the just the idea that the investment is made and no more investing in technology that changes so quickly- just stick a new screen on.

 

With ever incerasing prices of B&O it was the only option for me.

Although the LG lacks many things the picture is vastly superior to the Avant and in my experience the tehatre has been fully reliable.

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Hello there

 

The issue is, when using BR1 to switch on the TV, the reponse to change channel is laggy, sometimes i have to wait 40 seconds or more before the TV with ‘catch up’ with the remote

I dont get this issue on any other sources

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I have always admired the views of Mr 10% and I agree with the sentiments expressed to a point.

Bl5 really getting on a bit and although capable add little looks wise and now seem quite dated.

The 50s a very capable speaker but i like the design of the BL28 and rather like the magic that comes with the slats- afterall B&O has always been more about design paired with performance ( in some cases!) and 28 look good with theatre

One thing not to do is get the 20s what an awful product they seemed to be!

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it seems the replacement boards dont last, and gthat was my experience, Love the Avant but i would not buy at any price now

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hi There

 

Just had notification of Theatre update to 2.5.3

 

Other than the bug that makes the PUC occasionally inoperable pending a mains reset – it works ok.

If I update will it lose all the settings as some have reported – and is it worth the update given the update list seems to only offer spotify and tidal updates which dont interest me?

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Batteries  lasting 6 weeks now on my BR1

 

Having said that I would prefer no updates to ones that create more problems than they solve!

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