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NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberHi,
I think there are a number of things you can do. First, I assume you have run Room Sense correctly? Pay attention if doors were open/closed in you room at calibration time. Ditto, if you have curtains drawn or open vs your normal viewing. This can make a big difference (I.e calibrating in the afternoon light, door open, but drawing curtains and closing doors etc).
In BeoApp:
1. Scroll down to Sound. Equaliser >> play with bass and treble. May be that easy?
2. Turn loudness on. You may be surprised how loud the sound may be before this phases fully off?
3. Sound Modes. Select a sound mode you are having an issue with >> adjust Beomic OR go into Advanced. Play with Tilt (treble/bass see-saw adjustment). Sound enhancement moves bass/treble up/down in relation to midrange.
4. Bass management maximises bass across all loudspeakers. That may help?there are other settings for crossover frequency of the designated “virtual or real sub” but leave that out for now,
good luck
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberThese are SSDs I believe? I’m talking about fast 3.5in SATA hard drives. SSDs are problematic on the BS5. A HDD with a big cache, high rotation, etc will be good enough.
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberThe BS5/BM5 (known here as a single unit) should be on and permanently on.
Reboot can take a long time, sometimes, multiple restarts have been known. It sorta gets hung up on its own reboot.
if you are so-minded, buying a 2Tb 3.5in SATA hard drive and big big cache (the max I think you can do on that OS) and clone the whole thing, then while on the cloner, change partition size of the music store so you benefit. This will help a slow and aging motherboard.
disclaimer: do this at your own risk. These PCs are now delicate throughout
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberThis sounds like a bug in the BeoApp/Theatre. I have heard of PUC/HDMI connections and the LG Screen double tap controls with some sort of command conflict?
As a suggestion, I would try and program one of your Mybuttons so that Source >> Atmosphere >> Sound Mode >> Listening pos and volume are pre-set??
This may or may not work?
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberOh – and another thing Geoff – while you are viewing this topic.
I know you cant say anything about future product pipeline but we could really do with you passing on a message to TPTB in Struer for some slinky-slim ceiling speakers for our 5.2.X or 7.1.X Theatres. Something where I don’t have to book the builders 6 months in advance to do major wall/ceiling cavity excavation to hide amplifiers and fat drivers etc… Something perhaps with minimal wiring as well for ease so when we relocate our living quarters, the new habitants will never believe there was a loudspeaker there in the first place.
Thanks so much!
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NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberHi Geoff,
So one thing to “add-back” perhaps is the dB gain function in the eclipse which allowed to the User to try an match different source outputs to the same general level. I understand that watching Live TV, a volume setting of say 50 is required. On Netflix, 48-46. Amazon Prime I think has lots of people with hearing difficulty because I have to wind that down to 40-42. Again, as you indicate, it probably has something to do with the “quality” of the Title and its format.
This volume normalisation feature is employed it seems in Mybuttons but in a dark room, my muscle-memory of what is 1-2-3-4 Mybutton is not intuitive. Better just to press TV, curser down and select the most appealing blue writing on the screen. Sound levels pre-matched of course!
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberIve never had the 8000’s or derivatives but I have had 6000’s and 4000’s. I’m currently listening to BL3s in my office.
I think what you are describing is what was good in the 1990’s i.e. nice, sleek column speakers, great for background sound but were always lacking for enthusiastic listening.
Even the BL3’s – which I was playing around with in terms of parametric tuning (graphic equaliser in Richer Sounds speak) sound a little flat. They are great as monitors on the desk, but not so much when they are not literally like desk-mounted headphones.
What did offer an improvement as I recollect was adding a BL2 to my BL6000’s. They take a lot of that Bass (as in tone) from the 6000’s and add significantly extra bass (additional bass to the bass) not by “boosting” the bass, but allowing more of the bass hidden in the music to be revealed – which the 6000 bass/woofers could not reveal.
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberYeah….I know. I meant that to me, it wasn’t a deal breaker for me demanding my money back.
Rest assured, I’ve been keeping Beocare fully occupied since receiving my Theatre telling them of the same bugs I’ve observed.
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberThese however, do not work with the BL5’s.
INKT. ? Learnt something new there.
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberI think no matter what you do…..you will be listening to the BL5 DACs regardless.
CD Digital >> M-DAC >> Analogue PL >> BL5 ADC >> DSP >> BL5 DAC >> ICE >>
CD Digital >> SPDif >> DSP >> BL5 DAC >> ICE >>
I would suspect the BL5ADC is the weak link….but just guessing. (Educated guess as I was never happy with powerlink only on the BL5 compared to the SPDif connect which was much much better)
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberI would imagine that a Core plugged in to a BL5 (TOS/Coax + PL) would not have any problems. How it sounds….well that is for you to decide by testing at home or with your Dealer. The trick with the BL5 is to always use a digital signal in for music over Powerlink.
I have seen the core as out-of-stock and Im trying to find the source but believe the Core may be getting a WISA/Mozart update soon with a new chipset. (??)
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberI think the volume thing is not a hill of beans, just a muscle memory thing where the eyes tell you one thing but the ears say more. Once you get used to to 50-ish, it becomes second nature.
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberThis is an old YT video on Noto and BL90 Design. The fabrication of the crown and its economics is described briefly here at 18minutes.
NQVHNWIFOUNDER Membergeoffmartin wrote: The sensitivity (the relationship between the levels of the input and the output signals) of the Beosound Theatre is the same as all other Beovision televisions (until the internal protection algorithms kick in). So, if you’re playing the same mix of the same input signal, then Volume Step 42 will deliver the same output level as on an Eclipse / Harmony / Beovision 11. Of course, this assumes that all other parameters are identical, which won’t make sense in most cases. (For example, I doubt that many persons will configure their Theatre to output only L / C / R as on an Eclipse.)Interesting. My observation of replacing an Eclipse on a one-for-one swap with a Theatre – even keeping the same wiring loom connecting BL90, BL3 and an Oppo 105 is that my typical “action movie” volume setting of 47 (sufficient) now runs 50-52.Nothing wrong with that…..it may be like a potent sports car…. The more power, the more mundane it feels as you accelerate with ease, the more you crave more power??
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NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberJust doing research for the Essence/IR problem on another thread, found this.
BeoPart 6271214. IR Blaster cable with 3.5mm jacks to RJ45
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberEverything I see about the Essence I have seen is that it is a BT-remote controlled and that the IR port was placed there for “future” use. But dont take my word as 100% Only 10%.
Also, unless you are a Beo4, say a BR1 or Essence remote, they will need placing in IR mode rather than BT mode.
Attached is all I have from an obsolete Beolink reference manual.
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberBeojeff, Razlaw.
check you screen setting in the LG panel
List >> option >> (LG osm) >> General >> devices >> TV Management >>
activate Quick StartMay or may not solve your slow startup problem?
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberI’m still ripping CDs. I’ve basically re-ripped my original ripped WMA files on the BS5, to FLAC, the re-ripped them all again with a Melco D100 ripper into a Melco N1 music server.
I have also migrated to Qobuz but still buy cheap CDs – often in used form from Amazon. It’s a cheap way of loading up on excellent quality rips which are yours to keep forever…..
I use Jaikoz to extensively re-tag my library to just the way I want it.
im sure my old BS5 can read all those FLACs again, but the age of CDs, rips and hard drives and so on is coming to end. Soon it will all be pay per view, including having your annual BMW seat-warming rental and your electric Mercedes that can accelerate just a little faster. Just hope I can keep all my effort going another 30years or so when it won’t really matter what happens to my FLACs
NQVHNWIFOUNDER MemberShared bass across all loudspeakers to even out room-related issues.
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