New product launch – beosound theatre?

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  • #11702
    Mr10Percent
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    Another thing I cant seem to do is to select wide or narrow mode on beolab 28 via the BR1 Can anyone do this?

    what I have done is initially setup 2 listening positions with room sense; 1 with the surrounds + Theatre, 1 with the BL90 only. I then copied the BL90 listening position and in speaker configuration:-

    “Video” = BSTH/BL90/BL3 – Preset 0 (auto)

    ”Narrow” = BL90 – Preset 1 (high latency)

    Preset 2 and 3 for “Wide” and “Omni”

    Im supposing you can do similar for BL28 but don’t know what the presets used are? (0 to 6).

    Then BR1 >> List >> Speaker >> select listening pos.

    n.b. I still have to test this but this is what I’ve done!

    #11763
    Severed_hand_of_skywalker
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    Took some new pics of my theatre now that I’ve had it about a month.  Love it more every day.

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    #11796
    MaxH
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    Took some new pics of my theatre now that I’ve had it about a month.  Love it more every day.

    Looks great 🙂 Congratulations

    The vertical direction of the wood on both the 18s and The Theatre make it look like they were designed together.

    #11847
    etype76
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    A quick question for those of you playing around with the B&O app and the theatre. Where is the ‘Loudness’ option? I found it a couple of days ago, and lol like hell I can find it again.

    How is the app working for you all? I am finding it quite laggy and buggy. Sometimes my listening positions are there and other times they are not.

    I want to simplify the listening experience, what mode do I use if I just want to listen to music without any particular position? (When I’m just around the room and not planted on the couch.)

    My Theatre was installed on Sat with the table mount option on a 65″ LG TV, the TV was delivered Fri specifically for the theatre. This setup is a huge departure from the norm for me  (Beogram>Beomaster 6000>Beovox 3000) and it takes a while to get used to.

     

    #11848
    DHA
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    The app has a strange organisation of where things are. The source info is via settings which is a bit of a long winded way of finding out if it’s stereo/atmos etc that is getting sent to the bar. I also find you can’t delete a sound setting once you create it, you can swipe and press delete but nothing happens.

    #11866
    Mr10Percent
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    BeoApp Front Page

    Select Theatre >> Scroll down to Sound >> Sound settings >> Other settings

    #11878
    BeoMedia
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    How many different external speakers can you connect to the Theatre?

    B&O writes, Advanced Sound Features:
    Integrated 7.1.4
    Dolby Digital plus 7.1 (including DD5.1)

    Does that suggest that using external speakers one can only utilise 7.1 whereas the Theatre on its own can handle 7.1.4 different channels?

    Further, hardwiring to the Theatre, as each RJ45 can contain two sound signals, would it be possible to have front left and subwoofer on the same RJ45 to the Theatre or is the two speaker per RJ45 only meant for left and right speakers on the same position e.g. front speakers?

     

    #11879
    Mr10Percent
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    I’ll try and answer this as best as I can. I’m sure many will correct me?

    1. The BSTheatre has 7 speakers and as a standalone soundbar, it can fire those speakers to make a pleasant go of spacial sound. I don’t think it can compete with a multi-speaker setup of its own tuning.

    2. The BSTH has 4 wired Powelink paired connections and I believe 4 WISA paired connections. For a 7.1.4 system, you need 5 pairs of speaker, plus, possibly a subwoofer and the Theatre. This will mean some aspect of your setup will need both wire and wisa.

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    3. If all 7.1.4 channels are presented to the HDMI input from the source and processed through the Atmos, but there are speaker groups missing, the BSTH will down-sample to the best output.

    4. I believe when external Beolabs are added, the side and up-firing BSTH drivers are disabled. Why that is I don’t know just yet but that is what I observe in my system.

    I personally feel a traditional 5.1 (2 fronts, centre, 2 flank) loudspeaker set is enough sound output without occupying too much real estate and clutter in the room that a further 3 sets would entail.

     

    #11882
    Emilos88
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    It have 8 Powerlink output (4×2)

    And 8 WiSa output

    So you can connect a total of 16 speakers.

    #11884
    BeoMedia
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    Thank you all. Can a subwoofer share a wired connection with any other speaker like a front left speaker?

    #11889
    beojeff
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    The Beolab 2 receives both of the two channels in a PL cable. B&O once made a special Y-cable so that each of two subwoofers would be able to isolate and receive just one of the channels. However, that part has been discontinued. If you use the BL2 with a Receiver 1 for wireless, you’re able to get just one channel to that subwoofer.

    #11934
    Mr10Percent
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    I am not sure you can – or you cannot at the moment because of software bugs?

    If you add a BL2 to the Theatre configuration “+” (there are 2 “+” initially), a second level “+” appears branching from the BL2 icon. However, you can only add one speaker (FL or FR). You cannot add a “+” third level for both FR and FR fed with a BL2.

    Now what I have said does not mean you cannot physically send a RJ45 Powerlink to a BL2 and spur-off say a L/R BL5 (hypothetically) and bypass the addition of the BL2 in the Beoapp setup, but I would say the results may not be as intended?

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    #11976
    BeoMedia
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    I think I understand – it is possible to use one Powerlink RJ45 cable to connect the BL2 and one of the front speakers. That is great thanks.

    #11980
    Mr10Percent
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    Although people are talking about 8 wired/8 WISA connections, remember they are paired. So 4 and 4 PAIRs. As such, I would think it is common for people to connect say one outlet (as a stereo pair) to say a BL5 or BL18, and daisy-chain on from there.

    This photo shows 2 x “+” of  4 possible “+” on wired power links occupied (Theatre I think auto-recognises plugged in speakers but not their model type) at the first level (one BL8002 and one BL2), and one BL8002 on the second level (Daisy chained to the first level BL8002).

    so either way, you are consuming 2 powerlink sockets. 3 speakers, 4 channels. In this way, one assumes the Theatre will calibrate properly.

    n.b: I just used the BL8002 as an example of wired powerlink. I’m not into WISA so can’t comment on that side of the connection argument

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    #11981
    BeoMedia
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    Thanks but as the setup I am thinking of would have the front left Beolab 8002 and Beolab 2 close to each other my question is whether a front left Beolab 8002 and Beolab 2 can share a RJ45 cable? Reason I ask is that these two would normally not be in series as a front left and front right would normally be.

    In other words could you in your drawing on the left have Beolab 8002 and Beolab 2 and to the right of your drawing have the other Beolab 8002?

    I am well aware it would consume two RJ45 connectors to connect these three speakers. I am just not sure if a subwoofer can have a dedicated connection to the Theatre while sharing RJ45 with another speaker like a front left.

    #11984
    Mr10Percent
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    I think the way the Theatre works, is PL socket 1, takes Front L, Daisy-chain on to Front right. PL2, say to L/R sides (one Daisy chained to the next), PL3 to your BL2 sub.

    The Theatre works all this out and distributes the bass based on all 5 loudspeakers, plus the soundbar. There is also a setting in the App where you can set the sub crossover frequency (default 120hz) to your taste.

    The way the Beoapp configures, I think the old way of connecting the sub to the Beovision, then branch or Daisy-chain the Front L and Front R speaker from the sub separately is no longer valid (sub filters LFE from front channels only). Rather, Bass is managed, measured, filtered and distributed in a fully system-integrated way.

    edit: where you place your sub should be irrelevant. I.e next to one of your front speakers or behind your head. Again, the BeoApp (room sense and mic) help the calibration, and I guess it can tell where everything is placed. The distance measurement from listening position to speaker is very accurate (as good as a room laser I would say)

    #11992
    etype76
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    Did you all get a physical copy of the User Guide with the Theatre? My dealer left only Assembly Guides.

    #11993
    Mr10Percent
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    No printed user guides with the Theatre. All online if you can find it…..and then it is very basic. The BeoApp does a little but it is built around the B&O Television Technical Sound Guide and the layers of settings. There is a very basic LG user guide with the TV panel as well.

    #11994
    etype76
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    Great, thanks. I found the PDF through the B&O site.

    https://support.bang-olufsen.com/hc/en-us/articles/4955893911569

    It has some useful info such as LED status key etc.

    #11999
    Hereford
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    Sorry if this has been covered already, but googling didnt help. How do I verify that the Theatre is in Atmos-mode? The Apple TV says it’s outputting Atmos. I look under “Signal Info” in the app, but it seems to say Input=PCM 2.0 nomatter what’s playing

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