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FOUNDER MemberHello appeardk,
The grey line is the network line. I assume both your Theatre and core are connected? wifi may also be an option but wiring from the TV to the core I think would be a good thing as a minimum.
The core will be feed music via the network
The core will output via the TOSLINK digitial output (laser light, in stereo thru one terminal)
You will need to buy a TOS to CoAX converter. These are inexpensive.
The BL5s usually come with 2 x 5m CoAx 75ohn cables. If not, a good quality set of cables or the BL5 ones from your dealer will be OK. Again coax is digital and carries both L/R signals. You can daisy-chain the coax in/out from one BL5 to another
The BL5 have L/R switches. This configures the channels. The PL will carry ( this I assume from experience of old ML products) volume control. The coax, music signal. I am not 100% certain if BeoApp products work in the same way?
In this configuration, your Theatre works optimally for surround sound, and the core can side-stream to get the best out of the almondo.
The reason the Almando hums is probably because it is not 100% B&O compatible and has a ground loop caused by poor component shielded on the PL side. I have posted comments that I believe the Theatre needs good (B&O standard) PLs – otherwise there may be a risk of small hum??
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FOUNDER MemberOk, thanks, My 2 cents here.
1. Set the Theatre, BL5s and BL3s optimally for the Theatre.
2. Daisy-Chain the PLs BST >> BL5 >> BL5
3. Daisy-chain PLs BST >> BL3 Splitter >> BL3s
4. Connect Core to BST (not sure how this is done)
5. Daisy-chain Core coax >> BL5 >> BL5.
You will need to make a listening position for the BL5s stereo only and maybe configure the BR1. The music signal will be digital to the BL5s from the Core and the BST should control volume signal via PL? Thats how I imagine it. Obviously, I can’t test but hope it helps?
Im still seeing comments about relaying PL from BL5 to BL3?? You only have two channels on BL5 – Left and Right. Daisy-chaining the PL to BL5 is OK ,followed by channel selection. The BL3’s need to be coming from the Theatre from another second PL outlet.
This is what I had in mind with my comment above. (also to add, you will need a TOSLink to Coax converter to take the SPDif signal from optical to electrical – which the BL5 accepts.
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FOUNDER MemberI dont think it is the cables – or rather it is (silly)
I had the same issue taking a regular CAT7 (flat cable), connecting my Beolab3s (with RJ45 to PL connector) and the issue was bad. I could clearly hear an impulse when pressing vol +/-.
I threw out all my PL cables and RJ45’s and replaced the lot with Sound Heavenly cables. It worked but there is still a noise.
Im not sure of other peoples setups, but I think this has a good deal to do with the number of PLs connected (3 pairs of BL3s) and the way Theatre controls the signals.
Its workable, almost imperceivable unless your ear is against the driver but it is there.
To summarise,
- Have good PL cables to improve cable hygiene
- Theatre may have a PL distribution issue.
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FOUNDER MemberI used to run BL5s from a BV7 via PL. I also had a BS5/BM5 which sounded terrible when piped through ML to the BV7. However, piping the BM5 sound via coax directly to the BL5 raised the sound quality for music dramatically. BS5 or the BV could control volume.
Hopefully, the same principle can apply to you? BST/PL for TV, core/coax for music
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FOUNDER MemberOk, thanks,
My 2 cents here.
1. Set the Theatre, BL5s and BL3s optimally for the Theatre.
2. Daisy-Chain the PLs BST >> BL5 >> BL53. Daisy-chain PLs BST >> BL3 Splitter >> BL3s
4. Connect Core to BST (not sure how this is done)
5. Daisy-chain Core coax >> BL5 >> BL5.
You will need to make a listening position for the BL5s stereo only and maybe configure the BR1. The music signal will be digital to the BL5s from the Core and the BST should control volume signal via PL?
Thats how I imagine it. Obviously, I can’t test but hope it helps?
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FOUNDER MemberIm sorry if I get this wrong, but I having difficulty understanding the setup you want?
I think for Wife Acceptance Factor (WAF), you want a Theatre, two BL5 as rear surrounds and BL3 as fronts?
You also want to play material via the Core?
Please can you clarify the roles of the loudspeakers as I think everything else is straight-forward (except the Almando box bit)
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FOUNDER MemberIn terms of pre-amps, there are loads on the market. I recently purchased these two items to connect my BG8002 to my Auralic Altair G1 (it has no analogue inputs). It seems to work very well….
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FOUNDER Member@etype76 Why should you need a ‘preamplifier’? MM
Bit of a rhetorical non-answer? Unhelpful?
I would imagine that if the deck does not have an internal pre-amp, something is required to a) corrrect the EQ and b) raise the signal to line-level. Or do you propose the Theatre has this internally, or that the customer listens to distorted music at +90 volume?
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FOUNDER MemberGood to know
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FOUNDER MemberLooks like I got there just in time. LG tried to update today 3.xx.45 I think. And yes, even though you flick off auto update, it does pester on startup.
Im hoping it will be enough to resist LG until either B&O can identify a patch solution or LG re-issue a further stable update?
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FOUNDER MemberI’m on 5.2.3 beta, LG G2 on 3.30.16 with no issues.
I suspect, it’s either an LG issue, periphery (Set top) or Mozart periphery?
I’ve disabled my LG update (seems to do this every couple of weeks) until the issue is properly identified.
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FOUNDER MemberMove the base equaliser to say -2
Move the speaker level down as much as you can to suit your taste.
I don’t know the effect of redirection level.
sounds like your BL19 is not taking commands from the Theatre if the bass remains too much
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FOUNDER MemberLeave the crossover – that will be set at 120hz but I doubt it is your problem?
1. In BeoApp, on the Theatre front page, below listening position
Sound >> Equaliser >> dial down total bass setting.
2. Go to a chosen Listening Position (Video > say)
Open the configuration and find “Speakers >”
Find your BL19 registered, dial-down the dB. This will keep the overal tone but reduce the attenuation, giving a deep but less powerful bass
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FOUNDER MemberHi HPRAS, welcome.
I’ve become very rusty in the art of getting the BS5 directories running “optimally”. I am sure other contributors will come on here and correct me.
First.
The BS5/BM5 can log onto the network via a cable to the router. You will beed a password to logon via the BS5. How to do that I have forgotten (I think a factory reboot and recovery gets you there?). Similarly, once you have your credentials (and again, others can fill in the detail), you can access the BM5 music files via your windows PC File explorer.
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The BS5 will be a stickler for metadata. So best buy yourself a good IDTag editor and ensure you cross-reference all the search criterial (and get rid of anything that can cause an unwanted category search). Edit and categorise all your music in your PC. Its faster.
I used the file system “Artist Name – Artist Album” in the music directory and added all the correct IDTagged music files (FLAC) to that directory. This makes the wheel/beam search very fast (to me)
Once complete, copy the whole lot to the BM5 via the network.
Once you get used to the exact procedures, its straight forward to do (if not slow to load).
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FOUNDER MemberThanks for the info.
BG8002
Vaseline lube is not on the menu and in the same cupboard as is the WD40.
edit. would add that WD40 do do dry silicone lube?
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FOUNDER MemberI think the newest update has been withdrawn? Either it was not well received by the Beta group that received it, or there were other Beo-Products which did not react too well to the new code? I may be wrong here but it may be the re-introduction of the Emerge may have caused the problem?
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