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I don’t know the Core that well. However, I thought you could select local sources in the configure menu. If you can, you should be able to flick BT music off?

Also, a factory reset and re-install but without Chromcast activated may help?

I suspect either your neighbours are playing you by casting to the Core, or they once inadvertently connected and every now @nd again, mistakenly cast to your core without knowing it?

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Sandyb wrote:

Re their target market now, I’d point everyone to all their recent investor updates of the last 1-2 years.

They are targeting Ultra High Net Worth Individuals…..This is not my interpretation, this is what they have said. A production process more like Ferrari they mentioned last call i.e order, and long lead time.

….and if the stuff is up there like Ferrari performance then ok, but if they are following the Aston business model (old tech, massive depreciation) or McLaren business model (breaks down, warranty issues etc..) then it ain’t going to last long will it?

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I am wondering what they mean by this. Are they saying we saved 100 turntables from the trash heap and we sell them to the rich?

What is B&O going for here? Are they looking to become a high-end home decor brand? Are they hoping to sell these to Hollywood to be used as a set piece in an appartment for a McDonalds employee?

I’m sure the profit on these are incredible. If they sell 100 of these at £55,000, it probably has a much better bottom line than selling 6111 Beosound A5’s. But what does this do for the mortal BeoWorlder?

I sadly believe as per my last post…..that is exactly what they are doing. The point is that it is not just for the rich………I would feel comfortable that if I really wanted I could cobble together the cash for one of these…but would I want to?

The real issue is that in my opinion B&O have done some serious work in overcoming the “all style and no substance” mantra with the BL90, 50 and Theatre. They have also done this at the more affordable end with the Beosounds. I.e the average Joe on Beoworld and quite a few others have rebuilt the brand and it’s credibility. B&O are now destroying this by releasing this product at the price and in arguably a vulgar colour scheme. You could literally buy a very blingy world-class deck, cartridge and phono-amp, plus the BL28s and still have £20k in change to spend at HVM on vinyl.

The person who buys this I believe won’t give two flying figs as to what it is…or it’s history but it’s just another trophy in a pretty apartment with views. Those aspiring to buy their first Beosound or replace one…read this and in my opinion give up right away. Very bad for future sales IMHO.

I am lucky that I found a Beogram 8002 on eBay that was refurbished by someone who knows what they are doing. Its been working fine. This is my second 8002 purchase, the first was nothing but problems, even after multiple visits to the B&O repair shop. While it’s not as elegant as the 4002 (series) is does have that nice double-sided tape elegance!

Playing vinyl is an occasional pleasure for me.

Me too did exactly the same with my 8002. Sound quality is ok-ish (for the age) but it’s an enjoyable experience if that is your thing?

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I can get the refurbishment of an old Beogram – particularly a factory refurb. But to put it bluntly, in my opinion, B&O are moving in many ways back to oblivion. The BG is in world-terms a mediocre sound deck, as is the cartridge…as is the BL28 loudspeakers, the Core is well below mediocre in terms of SQ as well. A nice custom maple/oak/walnut or whatever can be hand crafted for a fraction of the part-price. The anodising of the alu-parts is in this colour-combo is bordering on vulgar. I get the package of the parts but it screams “no more ideas, rehash the past”.

I think there is something very wrong with a brand – particularly luxury brands when they keep re-hashing merchandise (Ferrari caps, tee-shirts, Aston Martin umbrellas, Omega Speedmasters etc..) to get that super-premium of basically selling tatt and the well-off soak it up.

Company’s then get lazy and make this stuff all the time – driven by Marketing rather than rather than true innovation. Then they die.

Sorry to be negative on this but I’d rather see B&O (or their chosen contractors) advertise for a pay as you go/at cost Deck refurbishment programme (and why stop there – plenty of good loudspeakers and BeoMasters out there with the ability to undertake reproduction components) and have current owners re-generate a second life for these products….rather than what seems the current practice of hoovering up all old decks from eBay and causing massive asset inflation to be ginned-up for a tasteless NY/LA Man-pad that will never really get any use or be enjoyed and savoured.

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My opinion (with 2 pairs of heights) in a 5.0.4 configuration is that the Theatre is infinitely adjustable in terms of atmospheric sound distribution. I use the RoomSense to get me 90% ball-park of what I need.

I convert the BSTheatre speakers to front only, with the side and up firing off.
I push the fronts slightly backward in terms of distance, but pull the sound level higher for clearer vocals.

The BL90s require a slight distance adjustment either side and the BL3 Surrounds left alone. The heights are manually boosted a fraction of a db each on the rear heights, a bit more on the front heights. I tend to lave the sound modes alone after getting hopelessly lost in the Miriam of settings. Writing down default distances and sound levels and their modified settings is useful.

This gets me to my desired preference and how far away it is from yours and the degree of tinkering/tuning is entirely personal. I don’t see the need to move away from TrueImage – though direct May have been useful while B&O were fixing the BSTH bugs.

As indicated, a good 4KBR disc – or like me enjoying completely uncompressed audio makes a huge difference over Netflix or Amazon (which although it says Dolby Atmos, is still no bigger than DD+) in terms of spacial atmosphere.

On my Kaleidescape system, I have a freebie short movie by Trinnov – perhaps the leader in home theatre amplification and distribution. It’s a musical track of beating and twanging noises coming from what seems a collection of hotch-pitch electrical components (I can’t find a link on their site). But it gives a very good 3D spacial observation of the sound and to a degree, helps me tune the heights to a degree where there is clear separation but not stupidly unrealistic separation.

In summary, find a good Atmos source, tweak to your hearts desire and how other people do it or take as preference I think is relatively meaningless to your own setup.

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In the BeoApp, go to remote pairing. Essence should work fine in its own limited way?

 

 

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geoffmartin wrote:

All information in the Atmos stream is decoded. However, the channels and/or objects assigned to “height” locations are downmixed or rendered (depending on whether the information in the mix was in a channel or an object) to a non-height loudspeaker (or loudspeakers).

To be specific…..this is exactly what I tried (badly) to explain. i.e. 5.2.4 to 5.2.0. The word “standard” here is the debateable phrase. Now I am corrected, I shall continue to use my (very) buggy Beosound Theatre wondering endlessly about the downmixing.

 

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Mr10Percent wrote:

BBC are withdrawing free services.

BBC Sounds (radio) is still free and there are no plans to change that! You do not need a TV Licence to listen to BBC radio (FM or DAB) or BBC Sounds (internet). Increasingly you do need to ‘log in’ to listen, but there is no payment involved.

I thought iPlayer (definately) and sound needed a link to your licence? Fair-enough.

Lets dust-off this discussion in a years time and see if it still holds true or not?

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Yes. As per my last post. BBC are withdrawing free services. I am reading the same thing on Auralic board, same issue but less contact with Naim board and hear its happening through two to three layers of separation.

BBC want you to have a TV Licence (if in the UK) and subscribe to either iPlayer or BBC Sound.

The BBC are a totally out-of-date organisation and need shutting down, re-inventing and go to full commercial viability rather than rely on blunt extorsion (under pain of penalty or imprisonment if in the UK) of the licence fee.

This is not a B&O fault by any measure.

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To add…..

The BV12 is 1661mm x 963mm, the LG 65 G2 is 1441mm x 845mm. I’m sure the G2 could fit inside the facia of a BV12 with a little skill and some handy 3D-printing of spacers if that is the effect you are trying to achieve. Delete the internal speakers to reduce weight etc…

That way you get the BV12 looks with the modern controllable LG screen inside. The other two problems are the BV12 contrast screen will degrade the viewing of the excellent LG panel and the whole assembly will look odd with the BST wings being not as wide as the BV12 panel.

 

 

 

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IIRC, the BV12 came with the BSys4?

The Bsys4 should almost be interchangable with the Theatre except for the picture/monitor control.

The problems I see is that :

1. The BV12/Bsys4 is a Beo4 controlled system
2. The BS Theatre is a BR1 Bluetooth control.
3. There is no native APP for the BeoApp in the Screen (and hence control)
4. There may be no tuning capability in the BV monitor (disabled/delegated to Bsys4)
5. Modern OLED Panel connectivity to DNLA, other equipment, CEC, will be missing

There may be a way to connect both the Bsys4 for monitor and IR control and have the BS Theatre together but I’d bet its very clunky? However, the tech between the two is over 10years apart (and probably 15 years between the panels)?

Looking at the LG G2 (or new G3) 65, why would you connect a BV12 and miss on 50% of the interaction fun when a BSTheatre and LG is arguably the best featured Beovision ever made?

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Yes, I have.

I have found the upper tweeter wears out. You can test by carefully muffling off the lower Tweeter with a soft pillow or cushion and play a high frequency sinewave track through 1 channel. This will identify if you are getting equal sound from each.

I found that one upper tweeter had gone – and as a matter of caution (the Tweeters cost relatively little), have the Service engineer replace both. This ensures equal sound and not having to do it again at £200/hr!

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The problem is not B&O, it’s the BBC wanting to lock everyone into their (paid) subscription services.  A lot of stations are moving away from vTune, TuneIn etc…

I think this is why B&O Radio was rolled out in the BeoApp…..it sorta gets around some of the short term licensing issues but stations are limited and often territorial.

An embedded VPN on your Router (if supported) my give you limited workaround in some cases??

 

 

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marexy wrote:

I repair some B&O electronic……..Just hope for an answer from someone who has repaired that kind of error as here are some guys with a lot of knowledge on repaires

Clearly, you have more knowledge than most if you are prepared to go inside a BL5 and make repairs.  I don’t think any advice I can give you – or 99.9% of the other Beoworld members would be useful?  I wish you good luck in solving the problem.

 

 

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I have known one of my BL5 to trip-out totally (red LED flashing) when playing very loud, very heavy bass.  It is Loudspeaker thermal protection. Fortunately, I did not have the problem if I didnt try to overload it and play normally. This is what the manual says….

The loudspeaker is equipped with a thermal
protection system which prevents the units
from overheating. Should an error occur, the
system automatically switches the loudspeaker
to standby – and the indicator light
flashes red.
To restore the situation:
> Disconnect the loudspeaker from the mains.
> Allow the system time to reset (approx. 3–5
minutes).
> Reconnect the loudspeaker to the mains again.

Should the problem persist, contact your Bang &
Olufsen retailer.

Regardless, it sounds like you have an internal fault and should get it checked out by an approved B&O service engineer.

 

 

 

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so you play music…..

what sort? light orchestral or big heavy boom bass? for 10 minutes?

no LED indication, then the whole speaker cuts out to standby (firm red LED)?

or just goes fully dead with no LED change?

or it continues to play the upper mid, lower treble and upper treble drivers? – just the 15inch sub goes down?

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Are you seeing a flashing red LED?

 

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Yes but the BR1 remote only showed a few stations. The update expanded it to 20

 

 

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Just add your favourite radio stations to “My Stations” in the App. Don’t think it works with the old TuneIn stations

selecting Music button on the BR1 brings up “B&O Radio >” and from there you can thumb all the station names in the My Stations list (up to 20)

 

 

 

 

 

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IIRC, The BS5 downloads radio stations from B&O itself. I think it uses BeoConnect and your B&O account. You cannot load up your own URLs. Make sure you are logged into your B&O account.

If you are connected to the Network and can “see” inside the BS/BM5 from your PC, the info slider should tell you that you are connected. If not, it may be that there is a bug (reboot) and ensure your are logged into your account. Again, historically, when I had similar messings-about with the BS5 ,a factory reset usually pot things right.

 

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