[Millemis]

@Carolpa

Isn’t that pretty much the same ‘workaround’, that I described in my post here from 29 July 2024 at 16:26?
Still I find it annoying, that you can not do this (P.Mute) directly anymore with the BROne.

MM

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[Millemis]

Well, you can’t use Deezer on either and you can only use CD’s and SD card on the BS4. So that leaves you with the BS4…..and some kind of (AUX-)connected dongle solution for the Deezer part.

To ‘futureproof’….hard to say anything there 😉

MM

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[Millemis]

Connecting the Mac Mini to the Theatre this way means, that you’d use the Theatre/tv screen combo as a monitor for the Mac.

(Not having a tv connected to the Theatre – generally speaking* – makes it impossible to control the Mac.
* You could use remote control from another Mac, use ‘continuity’ from another Apple device or other workarounds).

So the output depends on the audio settings on the Mac – have a look here for an explanation how to work with that.

However, please be aware that the internal processing in the Theatre means resampling (24/48) for the DSP to do the job….no matter what signal comes in.

My humble opinion is, that you most likely will not be able to hear a difference (you can maybe messure it, but that is not the same).
The more important thing, when it comes to the socalled ‘audio quality’, are the differences (and flaws) in the audio mastering of the music….no ‘bad audio’ becomes better because of serving it in an ‘audiophile – 24/192 – quality’!

I would not want the hassle of hardwiring a Mac and controlling it for my daily listening – I would prefer the convenience of simply airplaying from a mobile device.
Personally – when I want to listen ‘more seriouly’ – I use the Apple Music app on my AppleTV4 connected to the Theatre/LG combo, which involves no ‘Airplay conversion’!

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Millemis]

tph wrote:

There is no way to use Beolab 18 as a “standalone” pair, it always needs to be connected to a source, wireless or wired. In wired use, the aforementioned prioritisation applies. Maybe you’re thinking of Beolab 28 instead, which do have sources built in and behave differently otherwise too?

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Certainly I do not ‘mistake’ the 18’s for the 28’s!

But my explanation maybe – for you – was a bit unclear…..sorry for that.

The BL18’s are a pair of speakers!

Also see my post in this thread

….which also contains a link to a posting on Geoff Martins website about the 18’s.

MM

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[Millemis]

Millemissen wrote:

tph wrote:

Connecting multiple sources to Beolab 18 at the same time is possible, but only when they are all wired. They are prioritised in this order:

1. Power Link
2. Optical input (Toslink)
3. Line input (RCA)

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As far as I remember, this is only the case if you use then as a ‘standalone’ pair – not if they are PL-connected to a Beovision.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Millemis]

tph wrote:

Connecting multiple sources to Beolab 18 at the same time is possible, but only when they are all wired. They are prioritised in this order:

1. Power Link
2. Optical input (Toslink)
3. Line input (RCA)

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As far as I remember, this is only the case if you use then as a ‘standale’ pair – not if they are PL-connected to a Beovision.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Millemis]

Also none here.

MM

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[Millemis]

Tak 👍

The only drawback here is, that I need light to see which buttons on the remote I should push…..to get light.

MM

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[Millemis]

Thank you, Guy 🙂

Since the Beovision Horizon, Beovision 14 and the Beovision Avant NG (2016) are also mentioned, it might wonder somebody – although most of these owners probably also already use the ATV or alike.

MM

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[Millemis]

I can not open the page (Safari/MacOS) – ‘adressen er ikke gyldig’.

Anything more to it than that the installed apps on the V1 etc platform will not work anymore?

They – apart from the YT – haven’t been working for years, so what is new?

P.S. No big deal to me either, since I have and use the ATV there and a Cheomecast dongle

MM

 

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[Millemis]

Sandyb wrote:

Answered above no? The quote was from Christian (at B&O) in response to a pretty similar question over on Discord.

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……as quoted in my post above from 18 October 2024 at 22:51

MM

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[Millemis]

Christian K wrote on Discord:

You can choose between LC3+ (lossy) and PCM (lossless).

Although LC3+ is lossy, it’s a high quality codec and not squeezed (fixed 500kbps per channel). It also offers best in class error correction, so in case of bit errors, you actually won’t notice whereas PCM will give you a dropout in sound.

 

P.S.

I guess you will need two (of the same) devices/as a pair.

I’d go for a wired connection, (if you want the lossless version).

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Millemis]

The Moz-DPL tech not only simplifies the setup, it also allows for way more speakers (= the newer BS) to be used in a multichannel setup.

And yes, we probably won’t see many speakers with analog PL in the future (the BL8 is maybe the last one).

Luckily the BS Theatre has analog PL’s allowing for the use of oldschool BL there.

If there will ever be a (entry level) new Stage-like soundbar, I suppose that that will only have support for wireless Moz-DPL.

Interesting future 😀

How about a Moz-DPL receiver for adding old Beolabs, just like there was a WiSA receiver 🤔

Or how about a headphone with support for Moz-DPL !

MM

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[Millemis]

Please note that they are talking about Wireless as well as about Wired Digital Powerlink.

There have been DPL ports (RJ45) on many speaker products for a while now.

I wonder if e.g. the BL90 can be used wired with the BS Theatre (which has a free network port) and this way provide a digital connection instead of the old analog PL?

Edit! I’ll have to correct myself – reading on the B&O Discord reveals, that the DPL version of the 90’s is not compatible with the new Mozart-based 😥

MM

 

 

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[Millemis]

Try this

MM

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[Millemis]

1: Generelly I would always use the newest ATV. In your case the HD version would do, if you can get one.
If  you would go for the newer 4K version, you have two choises…..one Wifi-only and one also with an etherner port (which is slightly more expensive).

2: Certainly, yes – the B&O PUC solution makes this possible.

3: I have no idea about the figures of power consumption. There is still a P.Mute function for the BV11.

4: No need for an aereal there! The ATV is hooked up via an HDMI cable (and the PUC cable) to the BV11 and configured….that is it.

5: The BV11 needs to be connected to the internet/home network in order to be able to download the right PUC table online. You can read a lot more in the guides on the B&O website. Please remember that you can connect external speakers in order to get a better audio experience.

In my opinion the BV11 is still a gorgeous tv – if it wasn’t for the new BS Theatre/LG-tv combo, that I now have, that would be my choise at home.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Millemis]

The Beo4/joystick version will not help as long as the tv does not turn on.

Do you have the tv connected to the home network – if yes, please see, if it appears in the B&O app. Maybe it can be turned on from there?

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Millemis]

This is basicly about piping ‘new/modern’ sources into an existing ML setup.

A clever solution, yes – but it seems to me that it comes 5 years too late, since a lot of  the B&O users already have converted to Network Linked products (NL was introduces more than 10 years ago). Or they have (as Severed… found other ways to do what they need.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Millemis]

Nowadays I (apart from a BSys 6500 set behind a Converter) have no more masterlinked products in my setup.

But – if I still had – I would gladly support this project….seems to be some cool products coming.

MM

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[Millemis]

Please have a look here

MM

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